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Serial Killers

This'll probably be proven to be fake but just in case it's real .. (he's on facebook if anyone wants to look him up)

Amin Zain

“I collect dark history memorabilia and I actually have an original Dahmer Polaroid from his bedside dresser at his apartment”

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Disturbing to put it mildly.

A serial killer-obsessed woman who stabbed her boyfriend to death with a dagger has been found guilty of murder.

Shaye Groves slit 25-year-old Frankie Fitzgerald's throat before plunging the blade into his chest 17 times at her home in Havant, Hampshire. The 27-year-old, who used information from true crime documentaries to plan her alibi, tried to portray herself as the victim during a trial at Winchester Crown Court. She will be sentenced on Wednesday.

The court heard Groves had knives, Viking axes and portraits of serial killers on her bedroom wall.

Steven Perian KC, prosecuting, told the jury Groves acted out of jealousy on 17 July last year, after she discovered her victim had been messaging a 13-year-old girl on Facebook.

"The killing of Frankie Fitzgerald is very likely to be a crime of passion driven by her jealousy," the barrister said.
When police arrived, body-worn cameras showed Ms Groves telling officers Mr Fitzgerald had tried to attack her, the court was told.
pictures of serial killers on Shaye Groves' bedroom wall
IMAGE SOURCE, HAMPSHIRE CONSTABULARY. Image caption, Shaye Groves decorated her bedroom with portraits of notorious murderers and violent criminals

Mr Perian said Groves used knowledge gained from documentaries to portray herself to a friend as a victim of sexual violence. She sent the friend videos of the pair having sex, edited to appear as rape - but the prosecution said the original footage showed it was actually all consensual. ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-64597123
 
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Disturbing to put it mildly.

A serial killer-obsessed woman who stabbed her boyfriend to death with a dagger has been found guilty of murder.

Shaye Groves slit 25-year-old Frankie Fitzgerald's throat before plunging the blade into his chest 17 times at her home in Havant, Hampshire. The 27-year-old, who used information from true crime documentaries to plan her alibi, tried to portray herself as the victim during a trial at Winchester Crown Court. She will be sentenced on Wednesday.

The court heard Groves had knives, Viking axes and portraits of serial killers on her bedroom wall.
Steven Perian KC, prosecuting, told the jury Groves acted out of jealousy on 17 July last year, after she discovered her victim had been messaging a 13-year-old girl on Facebook.

"The killing of Frankie Fitzgerald is very likely to be a crime of passion driven by her jealousy," the barrister said.
When police arrived, body-worn cameras showed Ms Groves telling officers Mr Fitzgerald had tried to attack her, the court was told.
pictures of serial killers on Shaye Groves' bedroom wall' bedroom wall
IMAGE SOURCE, HAMPSHIRE CONSTABULARY. Image caption, Shaye Groves decorated her bedroom with portraits of notorious murderers and violent criminals

Mr Perian said Groves used knowledge gained from documentaries to portray herself to a friend as a victim of sexual violence. She sent the friend videos of the pair having sex, edited to appear as rape - but the prosecution said the original footage showed it was actually all consensual. ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-64597123
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Unbelievable, her being so normal- and wholesome-looking:

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ramonmercado said:
Disturbing to put it mildly.

A serial killer-obsessed woman who stabbed her boyfriend to death with a dagger has been found guilty of murder.

Shaye Groves slit 25-year-old Frankie Fitzgerald's throat before plunging the blade into his chest 17 times at her home in Havant, Hampshire. The 27-year-old, who used information from true crime documentaries to plan her alibi, tried to portray herself as the victim during a trial at Winchester Crown Court. She will be sentenced on Wednesday.

The court heard Groves had knives, Viking axes and portraits of serial killers on her bedroom wall.

Steven Perian KC, prosecuting, told the jury Groves acted out of jealousy on 17 July last year, after she discovered her victim had been messaging a 13-year-old girl on Facebook.

"The killing of Frankie Fitzgerald is very likely to be a crime of passion driven by her jealousy," the barrister said.
When police arrived, body-worn cameras showed Ms Groves telling officers Mr Fitzgerald had tried to attack her, the court was told.
pictures of serial killers on Shaye Groves' bedroom wall' bedroom wall
IMAGE SOURCE, HAMPSHIRE CONSTABULARY. Image caption, Shaye Groves decorated her bedroom with portraits of notorious murderers and violent criminals

Mr Perian said Groves used knowledge gained from documentaries to portray herself to a friend as a victim of sexual violence. She sent the friend videos of the pair having sex, edited to appear as rape - but the prosecution said the original footage showed it was actually all consensual. ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-64597123
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Arguably the poor besotted boyfriend committed suicide. I mean, you really want to go out with a person who has their wall covered with portraits - not even just photos but portraits - of serial killers?
 
Cochise said:
Arguably the poor besotted boyfriend committed suicide. I mean, you really want to go out with a person who has their wall covered with portraits - not even just photos but portraits - of serial killers?
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Supposedly he was messaging a 13 year old on social media, so... neither apparently the best example of humanity.
 
Colorado Serial Killers.

Colorful Colorado. The “purple mountains majesty” Katherine Lee Bates wrote about. Home of the adventurer, the brave, and the Broncos. The most beautiful playground in the U.S—maybe the world. Born and raised, so maybe I’m biased. Whatever the truth, nothing bad can happen in such a glorious space. Right?

Unfortunately, heinous acts occur everywhere. Gone are the days where screen doors were once left open, ‘”in case anyone wants to pop by” – or leaving the house unlocked at night. You wouldn’t dare leave your keys in the ignition as you run in for groceries, nor let your kids roam free until dark. Big cities, small towns – it doesn’t matter where you are these days. Crime doesn’t discriminate. Even when it comes to gender.

Many find it difficult to believe women can be serial killers. And while it’s true most serial killers are male this is not exclusive. Colorado had a rather notorious serial killer in her midst back in the 1970’s, known as the Black Widow. Judy Buenoano, (a poor attempt at a Spanish translation of “Goodyear”) poisoned four victims, three of whom died. After having a baby as a teen, Judy married James Goodyear. Sadly, upon his return from Vietnam, Judy added poison to her husband’s daily “special vitamin C drink” and he died within four months. Luckily, the merry widow was able to collect her husband’s life insurance policy, and VA benefits.

Next, Judy set her sights on Bobby Morris, a Colorado resident. To her credit, Judy seemed to find happiness with Morris—for a few years. Apparently confident after getting away with one murder, Judy dipped back into the same well, poisoning Morris to death. And just as fast, cashed in on his life insurance policy. Killing, as it turned out, was a surprisingly lucrative way to make a living.

Judy’s next victim was her own son, who lost the use of his legs due to arsenic poisoning. He drowned when Judy threw him off a boat, watching as he sunk to his death. Her fourth victim, fiancé John Gentry, was persuaded to make Judy the beneficiary of a large life insurance policy, while feeding him poison. But when he refused to die, Judy (possibly feeling a bit put out) became impatient and tried to blow Gentry up in his car. Luckily Gentry proved surprisingly resilient, and survived the car bomb. To this day, he is the only known survivor of Buenoano.
Judy was executed in 1998 by (not lethal injection, which would have been too ironic) electrocution.​

Colorado’s law enforcement history has a couple of “what were you thinking?” moments, when it comes to serial killers. Scott Lee Kimball is one of those “oops!” scenarios the FBI would rather not recall. Kimball, who was in prison for check fraud, was released early to become an FBI informant (despite having escaped from a Montana prison). Under public supervision, Kimball began his life as a snitch for the feds. During his down time, however, Kimball honed a second skill—murdering young women and dumping their bodies in the nearby mountains. His first victim, LeAnn Emry, was on her way to Mexico to go spelunking when Kimball attacked. He says he only shot her twice in the back, and killed her, because she was trying to get away from him (ponder that logic for a moment). About two weeks later, Kimball claimed that no, in fact he wasn’t the one who shot Jennifer Marcum—but he did give her a lethal dose of heroin. Most disturbingly, after killing his third victim (nineteen-year-old Kaysi McLeod), he married her living mother, honeymooning not far from where he’d dumped Kaysi’s body. ...

https://crimereads.com/the-unsettling-history-of-serial-killers-in-colorado/
 
Monique Olivier: Accessory to Evil, France's Rosemary West, she assisted her husband Michel Fourniret in the abduction, torture and rape of young women and girls. Disturbing, graphic descriptions of the crimes. One of the victims was English and a Detective Chief Superintendent is one of the talking heads. Unlike Rosemary but like Myra Hindley West Olivier has after many years helped police in the search for the bodies of missing victims. Some were found. She'll be eligible for parole in 2032 but faces further trials. A bit stretched out in 5 episodes on Netflix, it could have been done in 3. Directed by Christophe Astruc and Michelle Fines. 7/10.
 
This Shaman is a serial killer.

Indonesia police have arrested a village shaman accused of killing at least 12 people after several bodies were found buried in the man's garden.

Slamet Tohari, 45, admitted to police that dozens of victims were interred on his land.

He has been charged with the premediated murder of clients at his home in Banjarnegara in Central Java.

Police said he promised to magically multiply money and when clients wanted their cash back, he poisoned them.

He was arrested this week after the son of his most recent alleged victim told police Tohari's home had been his father's last known location.

Paryanto's family had been unable to contact him since 24 March.

He told his son his location via a WhatsApp message and asked him to notify the police if he did not return by 26 March. A police report was made the following day.

Authorities then went to Tohari's home in Desa Balun village, Wanayasa district on Monday, where they discovered several shallow graves at a nearby site.

Some graves had two to three victims buried together. A bottle of mineral water was also found in each grave
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65198278
 

Fears of a serial killer in Austin, Texas after 8th body in less than a year is pulled from Lady Bird Lake​


Austin residents fear a serial killer may be on the loose after the eighth body in just ten months was pulled from a lake in the city.

John Christopher Hays-Clark, 30, was the latest person to be found dead in Austin's Lady Bird Lake on Saturday.

Texas police patrolled the waters by boat after several people reported an unresponsive person in the lake around 1pm. His identity was confirmed on Monday. It is unclear how long his body had been in the water.

Earlier this month, 33-year-old Jonathan Honey was found dead on April 1. Cliff Axtell, 40, was discovered on March 5, and Jason John, 30, was found on February 13. A further four unidentified bodies have been recovered from the lake in the past 10 months.

Investigators claimed they do not suspect foul play. Austin police [added that] the cases remain under investigation, with evidence being analyzed. They added that the cases shared a 'combination of alcohol' and 'easy access' points to the lake.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Austin-EIGHTH-body-pulled-Lady-Bird-Lake.html

maximus otter
 
maximus otter said:

Fears of a serial killer in Austin, Texas after 8th body in less than a year is pulled from Lady Bird Lake​


Austin residents fear a serial killer may be on the loose after the eighth body in just ten months was pulled from a lake in the city.

John Christopher Hays-Clark, 30, was the latest person to be found dead in Austin's Lady Bird Lake on Saturday.

Texas police patrolled the waters by boat after several people reported an unresponsive person in the lake around 1pm. His identity was confirmed on Monday. It is unclear how long his body had been in the water.

Earlier this month, 33-year-old Jonathan Honey was found dead on April 1. Cliff Axtell, 40, was discovered on March 5, and Jason John, 30, was found on February 13. A further four unidentified bodies have been recovered from the lake in the past 10 months.

Investigators claimed they do not suspect foul play. Austin police [added that] the cases remain under investigation, with evidence being analyzed. They added that the cases shared a 'combination of alcohol' and 'easy access' points to the lake.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Austin-EIGHTH-body-pulled-Lady-Bird-Lake.html

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John Christopher, Jonathan. Jason John; I see a pattern here.
 
ramonmercado said:
John Christopher, Jonathan. Jason John; I see a pattern here.
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For probably interesting reasons*, 'J' is by far the most common initial letter for boy's names in English, despite it being a 8 in Scrabble for its rarity in the rest of the language.

* Basically, a lot of names in the west come from the Bible. Hebrew yod 'י' > Latin 'i' > 'j', the sound of which changed in English from a 'y' sound to the /dʒ/ used today. That explains why this relatively uncommon letter is common in English names, but not why so many Hebrew names started with yod in the first place, though it seems to have a lot of religious significance. Interestingly, the English words 'jot' (and tittle) and 'iota' both come from 'yod', ('iota' clearly via Latin), illustrating the point about sound changes.

EDIT: It's also the most frequent letter in Hebrew
 
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And she wonders why she has no friends ...

Thai police say they have arrested a woman suspected of killing 12 of her friends and acquaintances by poisoning them with cyanide.

Sararat Rangsiwuthaporn was arrested in Bangkok on Tuesday following recent inquiries into a friend's death. The victim's family had raised suspicions after she died on a trip with Sararat earlier this month. Following inquiries, police this week said they believed Sararat had killed 11 others, including an ex-boyfriend. Police allege she killed for financial reasons. Sararat has denied all the charges. Thai authorities have denied her bail.

Two weeks ago, she had travelled with her friend to Ratchaburi province, west of Bangkok, where they had taken part in a Buddhist protection ritual at a river, police said. Shortly after, her friend Siriporn Khanwong collapsed and died on the riverbank. Traces of cyanide were found in her body during the autopsy, police said. Her phone, money and bags were also missing when she was found.

Authorities said the other alleged victims had died in a similar way, but did not disclose further information. The murders began in 2020, they said. They also didn't identify all of the victims, but named Sararat's former partner, as well as two female police officers, among the dead.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65395398
 
Why is the Met missing murders and serial killers?

According to a 'scathing' report by His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire and Rescue Services (HMICFRS), the reasons include incompetence, homophobia, racism, poor training, inadequate record-keeping, inexperience of officers attending potentially suspicious deaths, confusing guidance and policies for officers and inadequate intelligence and crime analysis.

Met police could be failing to identify serial killers, watchdog says

The Metropolitan police could be failing to spot serial killers and identify murders because they are not properly investigating unexpected deaths, the inspector of constabulary has warned.

Matt Parr’s comments came after a damning report concluded Britain’s largest force had still not learned from its “calamitous litany of failures” in the case of the serial killer Stephen Port – and warned “history could repeat itself”.
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And she wonders why she has no friends ...

Thai police say they have arrested a woman suspected of killing 12 of her friends and acquaintances by poisoning them with cyanide.

Sararat Rangsiwuthaporn was arrested in Bangkok on Tuesday following recent inquiries into a friend's death. The victim's family had raised suspicions after she died on a trip with Sararat earlier this month. Following inquiries, police this week said they believed Sararat had killed 11 others, including an ex-boyfriend. Police allege she killed for financial reasons. Sararat has denied all the charges. Thai authorities have denied her bail.

Two weeks ago, she had travelled with her friend to Ratchaburi province, west of Bangkok, where they had taken part in a Buddhist protection ritual at a river, police said. Shortly after, her friend Siriporn Khanwong collapsed and died on the riverbank. Traces of cyanide were found in her body during the autopsy, police said. Her phone, money and bags were also missing when she was found.

Authorities said the other alleged victims had died in a similar way, but did not disclose further information. The murders began in 2020, they said. They also didn't identify all of the victims, but named Sararat's former partner, as well as two female police officers, among the dead.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65395398
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Rangsiwuthaporn sounds like Graham Young, the 'Teacup Poisoner'. Nobody around him was safe once he learned how to kill discreetly.
He did it mainly from an obsession with control once he'd murdered his stepmother whom he'd disliked.

One wonders if Rangsiwuthaporn has been doing something similar, despite police allegations that it was for money.
Why kill twelve people, and in particular, two female police officers? Were they among her unfortunate friends?

Or perhaps she's innocent as she claims to be.
 
escargot said:
Why is the Met missing murders and serial killers?

Met police could be failing to identify serial killers, watchdog says
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I'd suggest that there's two factors at work here:
Firstly, the overstretched force finds it difficult to act on a perceived link between murders, rather than hard evidence; they spend most time looking for evidence in a single murder - a connection would have to be pretty blatant to be taken seriously.
Secondly, I suggest the force is always under pressure for clear-ups. Results are wanted and, unless the murder is fairly straight forward, a serial killing pattern is a complication they don't need.
 
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https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/nhs-in-a-nutshell/nhs-budget

"UK Crime Rates 2022 - 2023

The crime rate in the United Kingdom was 75.88 per 1,000 people in 2022–2023. The overall UK crime rate saw an 8% increase from 2021."

https://crimerate.co.uk/

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Factor in policing "hurtyfeelz", crimes-of-the-day, recruitment by quota not quality...

But hey, it's easier just to ascribe it to -ism or -phobia, eh?

maximus otter
 
Stormkhan said:
I'd suggest that there's two factors at work here:
Firstly, the overstretched force finds it difficult to act on a perceived link between murders, rather than hard evidence; they spend most time looking for evidence in a single murder - a connection would have to be pretty blatant to be taken seriously.
Secondly, I suggest the force is always under pressure for clear-ups. Results are wanted and, unless the murder is fairly straight forward, a serial killing pattern is a complication they don't need.
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The mishandling of Stephen Port's murders was so bad it was made into a TV drama series.
 
I am closely connected with someone who both had a partner in the London police force and worked themselves in the London police force.
The inclination was - at the time - for anything related to an 'alternative' sexuality to be 'copped' but, unofficially, didn't exist.
In effect, if it was "gay", then unless it was a quick collar caught the perp then ... hey ho.
The idea of this awful person was targeting homosexuals just didn't occur to them. They didn't look for the connection! They didn't consider it.
 
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