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Serial Killers

ramonmercado said:
A serial killer has confessed ...

Kenyan police have arrested a man who they have described as a “serial killer” suspected to have been behind the gruesome murder of nine women whose mutilated bodies were found in a disused quarry used as a rubbish dump.

Police say Jomaisi Khalisia, 33, confessed to having killed 42 women since 2022, including his own wife.

The suspect was arrested at a bar early on Monday morning as he was watching the Euro final.

There has been shock and outrage in Kenya since the first of the dismembered bodies were found on Friday at the Mukuru quarry in the capital, Nairobi.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cql8e90gggno
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Has he now? Handy.:thought:
 
ramonmercado said:
A serial killer has confessed ...

Kenyan police have arrested a man who they have described as a “serial killer” suspected to have been behind the gruesome murder of nine women whose mutilated bodies were found in a disused quarry used as a rubbish dump.

Police say Jomaisi Khalisia, 33, confessed to having killed 42 women since 2022, including his own wife.

The suspect was arrested at a bar early on Monday morning as he was watching the Euro final.

There has been shock and outrage in Kenya since the first of the dismembered bodies were found on Friday at the Mukuru quarry in the capital, Nairobi.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cql8e90gggno
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Interestingly from a Fortean perspective, according to this BBC article, the victims were found after the ghost of one of the victims visited a relative in a dream and told them where to search.
 
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Min Bannister said:
Has he now? Handy.:thought:
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And now he's escaped.

A man who police said confessed to killing 42 women and was being detained over the discovery of dismembered bodies in Kenya’s capital has escaped from custody, officials said on Tuesday.

Collins Jumaisi Khalusha, 33, was being detained at a police station in Nairobi after a court allowed detectives seven more days to investigate his alleged crimes before charging him.

Mohamed Amin, the head of the Directorate of Criminal Investigations, told the Associated Press it was “unfortunate” that Khalusha had escaped along with 12 other inmates after they cut through wire mesh in the cells and scaled the perimeter wall early on Tuesday morning.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/k...male-bodies-escapes-from-custody-1663040.html
 
re Lucy Letby: here's a Guardian piece about a senior doctor who now says he should have gone to the police long before she was eventually arrested.

This is what I've said all along. Somebody should have ignored what the bosses said and just gone to the police. I'd've done that.
A suspicion that vulnerable people are being harmed is a police matter, not a reason for another meeting.

Senior doctor ‘ashamed’ he failed to protect babies from Lucy Letby

A senior doctor has said he is “ashamed” he failed to stop the nurse Lucy Letby from harming babies and that police should have been contacted a year earlier.

John Gibbs told a public inquiry that doctors received “very firm pushback” from senior nurses when they raised growing suspicions about Letby in early 2016.

Gibbs, the first of Letby’s colleagues to give evidence to the Thirlwall inquiry, said the response from nursing managers made it “more difficult” for consultants to demand action or contact the police.

He told Lady Justice Thirlwall on Tuesday: “I do deeply regret and I am ashamed that I failed to protect the babies from harm by Letby but I do understand that the parents concerned would probably rather have explanations rather than belated apologies.”
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Nothing in this article engenders anything but contempt in me. :mad:
 
More from the Guardian on the Letby enquiry -

Lucy Letby: hospital chiefs ‘refused to call police amid concern of media spotlight’

Hospital executives refused to call the police about Lucy Letby because of a “concern that we will be in the media spotlight”, an inquiry has been told.

Murthy Saladi, a consultant paediatrician, urged hospital bosses in an email on 29 June 2016 to contact Cheshire constabulary about a series of “unexpected and unexplained” deaths.

This was less than a week after Letby had murdered her final newborn victims – two triplet boys – by injecting them with air on the neonatal unit at the Countess of Chester hospital in north-west England.

Letby, 34, is serving a whole-life prison term after being convicted across two trials of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder another seven between June 2015 and June 2016.
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A “concern that we will be in the media spotlight”.

Can't say I'm lost for words. I have two: Fuck me. :mad:
 
maximus otter said:
The Menéndez brothers?

maximus otter
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More a spree killing but the DA is looking into the case again. The best the Menendez brothers could hope for is the possibility of parole at some stage if they are resentenced. I'm sure this news will garner some outraged comments here but bear in mind that the DA has access to a lot more information than any us.

Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascon announced on Thursday that his office is reviewing the case of Lyle and Erik Menendez, who are currently serving life without parole for their parents’ murders in 1989.

The brothers were both convicted in 1996 for killing their parents, Jose and Kitty Menendez, and attorneys claimed during their widely watched trial that they had killed their parents in self-defense following years of physical, sexual and emotional abuse.

Despite the emotional testimony and family members corroborating the abuse allegations, prosecutors argued that the privileged young men killed their parents because they feared being cut off financially.

Gascon, who is currently up for reelection, said his office is reviewing evidence in the case. A hearing is scheduled for Nov. 29 on the brothers’ petition to have their conviction vacated due to new evidence, and separately, their attorneys have asked for them to be resentenced.

“I’m not leaning in any direction right now, I’m keeping an open mind,” Gascon said at Thursday’s press conference.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/los-...of-new-allegations_n_66fef52ee4b09a8f84883f38
 
ramonmercado said:
More a spree killing but the DA is looking into the case again. The best the Menendez brothers could hope for is the possibility of parole at some stage if they are resentenced. I'm sure this news will garner some outraged comments here but bear in mind that the DA has access to a lot more information than any us.

Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascon announced on Thursday that his office is reviewing the case of Lyle and Erik Menendez, who are currently serving life without parole for their parents’ murders in 1989.

The brothers were both convicted in 1996 for killing their parents, Jose and Kitty Menendez, and attorneys claimed during their widely watched trial that they had killed their parents in self-defense following years of physical, sexual and emotional abuse.

Despite the emotional testimony and family members corroborating the abuse allegations, prosecutors argued that the privileged young men killed their parents because they feared being cut off financially.

Gascon, who is currently up for reelection, said his office is reviewing evidence in the case. A hearing is scheduled for Nov. 29 on the brothers’ petition to have their conviction vacated due to new evidence, and separately, their attorneys have asked for them to be resentenced.

“I’m not leaning in any direction right now, I’m keeping an open mind,” Gascon said at Thursday’s press conference.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/los-...of-new-allegations_n_66fef52ee4b09a8f84883f38
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I've been enjoying the Netflix drama about the Menendez brothers.

It's cleverly done, showing the young men as arrogant and privileged at the start and then gradually revealing the abuse they claim was committed against them as children and youths.

If what they say is true, their mother knew and didn't intervene or try to protect her children. She had guns herself. If she'd deployed them in her sons' defence and protected them she wouldn't have had her jaw shot off. It would also have been a splendid defence against the murder charge.

The thing about adolescents is that even if they've been bullied and repressed all their young lives, when they start growing bigger and becoming more independent they are harder to control.
Even kind and supportive parents often despair about how truculent their teenagers suddenly become. Been there. :dunno:

Can remember the Menendez murders happening. Seemed obvious to me that where there's a rich family that have guns lying around, someone's going to be bumped off at some point.
 
ramonmercado said:
More a spree killing but the DA is looking into the case again. The best the Menendez brothers could hope for is the possibility of parole at some stage if they are resentenced. I'm sure this news will garner some outraged comments here but bear in mind that the DA has access to a lot more information than any us.

Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascon announced on Thursday that his office is reviewing the case of Lyle and Erik Menendez, who are currently serving life without parole for their parents’ murders in 1989.

The brothers were both convicted in 1996 for killing their parents, Jose and Kitty Menendez, and attorneys claimed during their widely watched trial that they had killed their parents in self-defense following years of physical, sexual and emotional abuse.

Despite the emotional testimony and family members corroborating the abuse allegations, prosecutors argued that the privileged young men killed their parents because they feared being cut off financially.

Gascon, who is currently up for reelection, said his office is reviewing evidence in the case. A hearing is scheduled for Nov. 29 on the brothers’ petition to have their conviction vacated due to new evidence, and separately, their attorneys have asked for them to be resentenced.

“I’m not leaning in any direction right now, I’m keeping an open mind,” Gascon said at Thursday’s press conference.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/los-...of-new-allegations_n_66fef52ee4b09a8f84883f38
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My understanding if this is that they would not have been convicted to life sentences with no parole if people had more understanding of how sexual abuse affects children. At that time, people didn't even consider that sexual abuse would affect male children.

Apparently, the older brother had tried to protect his younger brother after years of abuse.

It will be interesting
 
brownmane said:
My understanding if this is that they would not have been convicted to life sentences with no parole if people had more understanding of how sexual abuse affects children. At that time, people didn't even consider that sexual abuse would affect male children.

Apparently, the older brother had tried to protect his younger brother after years of abuse.

It will be interesting
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On the other hand, historic sexual abuse is conveniently easy to allege yet difficult to disprove.

maximus otter
 
maximus otter said:
On the other hand, historic sexual abuse is conveniently easy to allege yet difficult to disprove.

maximus otter
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And yet, the media and people of the time preferred to believe that these young men were privileged and rich enough to kill for money. I do question how much of a fair trial was available to them.

And yes. I am stating that even privileged white boys deserve a fair trial even though we know they have far more advantages available than many who have been wrongfully convicted. I am almost choking on that.

The brothers reported the sexual abuse as their reason for the murders. I'm pretty sure that if there was a proper examination of the allegations, things might have turned out differently. There would be physical proof.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/los-angeles-prosecutors-review-menendez-case-1.7342258

"The new evidence presented in the petition includes a letter written by Erik that his attorneys say corroborates the allegations that he was sexually abused by his father."

The following article states that the letter that Lyle wrote to another family member alleging the abuse, as well as a Menudo (boy band) member has alleged that Jose Menendez molested him are some of the evidence that will be reviewed:

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/05/nx-s1-5140056/menendez-brothers-case-review-explained
 
brownmane said:
My understanding if this is that they would not have been convicted to life sentences with no parole if people had more understanding of how sexual abuse affects children. At that time, people didn't even consider that sexual abuse would affect male children.

Apparently, the older brother had tried to protect his younger brother after years of abuse.

It will be interesting
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Seems men are coming forward to allege that Menendez snr abused them as youths. These include, as @brownmane mentions, a boy band member.

Reminds me of the horrific abuse exposed in the documentary Secrets of the Bay City Rollers presented by Nicky Campbell last year.
Boys and male teenagers are as vulnerable to abuse as are girls and young women.
 
Female serial killers are a rarer phenomenon than their male counterparts, and often get less attention.

The recent episode of Myths, Misdeeds and the Paranormal podcast dealt with Nannie Doss, known as Giggling Grannie who killed 11.

Available fro ACast, here. Also on Spotify or direct from History Hits.
 
Floyd said:
I wish someone had told Agatha Christie.
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Back in AC's day firearms ownership and carrying was so common as to be unremarkable. I remember reading a feature about Beatrix "Peter Rabbit" Potter, who reported arriving at a hotel in the UK and being astonished that one fellow guest didn't have a revolver.

In my Alp-sized "to read" pile is the autobiographical Full Tilt: Ireland to India with a Bicycle written by Dervla Murphy in 1965. On deciding to go, one of her first purchases was a .25 ACP semi-automatic pistol. She had her local Garda take her out onto the moor to teach her how to shoot it!

maximus otter

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