Smell & Personal Compatibility (Love; Friendship)

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Dating site matches couples by body odour
By Catherine Elsworth in Los Angeles
Last Updated: 2:22am GMT 13/12/2007

An American dating company claims to have cracked the secret to physical attraction and finding that perfect match – body odour.

To the founders of ScientificMatch.com, love is simply a matter of chemistry. It asks members to submit a DNA sample – the saliva-swab commonly used in paternity or drug testing – and then analyses it to calculate their ideal partner.

This will be someone with “a natural odour you’ll love, with whom you’d have healthier children and a more satisfying sex life”, says the company, which claims to be “the only introduction service that creates matches with actual physical chemistry”.

The process works, the founders say, because DNA analysis enables scientists to match people with compatible immune system genes – ie, those with different immune systems with whom they would create babies with more robust immune systems.

And the company claims: “The fact is, we love how other people smell when their immune systems are different from ours – they smell sexier.”

Members, who are charged close to £1,000 for the service, are also asked fill out a questionnaire on their “fundamental, core values” so they can be matched to people who share their beliefs, a process the company likens to “soul matching, or values matching”.

The service has so far been launched in the Boston area, which is seen as a fertile market because of its large number of single people - around 39 per cent of the population, according to local surveys.

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Link is dead. No archived version found. No website found for ScientificMatch.com.

It turned out my ex and I shared an uncommon blood group, which may connect to this topic... (If we hadn't, we'd have run the risk of having blue babies or other pregnancy problems...)
 
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The service has so far been launched in the Boston area, which is seen as a fertile market because of its large number of single people - around 39 per cent of the population, according to local surveys.
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I bet they smell.
 
Update ... The service closed down after about 5 years ...

ScientificMatch.com was an online dating service launched in December 2007 by Eric Holzle and based in Boston, Massachusetts.
The company scanned cells from the inside of members' mouths for six immunity markers to help them find someone who is a match. The test results were used to match people with complementary immune systems. ...

The website shut down in early 2012.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ScientificMatch.com
(Links to additional documentation about the service can be found on the Wikipedia page.)
 
Maybe smell is more effective for selecting friends than lovers ...

A small-scale Israeli study suggests olfaction / smell plays a part in immediately "clicking" with a new acquaintance.
Friends Who 'Click' Have Something Peculiar in Common: Their Smell

Have you ever met a perfect stranger and felt like you 'clicked' almost immediately? Well, that feeling of chemistry might actually be chemistry.

An Israeli study recruited twenty pairs of same-sex, platonic friends who said they clicked when they met.

Using an electronic nose (and volunteers who heroically agreed to sniff T-shirts worn overnight), the study concluded that the pairs of friends smelled more similar than randomly paired strangers.

Plenty of other mammals sniff each other to decide whether to play with, attack, or run away from a strange animal.

"In humans, the role of olfaction has been denigrated in part because of various social taboos, culminating in the view that olfaction is unimportant for human sociality," the researchers wrote in the paper.

But what if perfect strangers "begin to interest us at first sniffs rather than at first sight alone?", the neuroscientists asked. After running several experiments to rule out alternative explanations, they concluded that "there is indeed chemistry in social chemistry". ...
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FULL STORY: https://www.sciencealert.com/friends-who-click-smell-similar
 
When I was young, which I was once about 45 years ago, about 17 or 18, I went out with a girl who was a year younger and she always said I smelt right to her which I never quite understood. We went out with each other for about 2 years until her parent moved away and living at home, she went with them. We got on really well. No arguments or anything like it. Each time we met up to go out, she'd sniff me which at the time seemed a bit odd.

She had a friend who loved the smell of workmen like builders who had been sweating all day. If she caught a whiff of one down the pub she'd go all strange for a while in that particular way that women do sometimes, if you know what I mean.

Women are weird. I've never worked them out.
 
kesavaross said:
When I was young, which I was once about 45 years ago, about 17 or 18, I went out with a girl who was a year younger and she always said I smelt right to her which I never quite understood. We went out with each other for about 2 years until her parent moved away and living at home, she went with them. We got on really well. No arguments or anything like it. Each time we met up to go out, she'd sniff me which at the time seemed a bit odd.

She had a friend who loved the smell of workmen like builders who had been sweating all day. If she caught a whiff of one down the pub she'd go all strange for a while in that particular way that women do sometimes, if you know what I mean.

Women are weird. I've never worked them out.
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If you notice, animals use their sense of smell much more than we do, they seem to see the world through their noses, especially dogs and cats.
I don't know about other women, but I also always look at men's hands, they are a clue to the person, just like their smell.
 
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Ronnie Jersey said:
If you notice, animals use their sense of smell much more than we do, they seem to see the world through their noses, especially dogs and cats.
I don't know about other women, but I also always look at men's hands, they are a clue to the person, just like their smell.
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I sometimes think that dogs especially almost 'see' with their noses. I watched two dogs the other week out the front to where I live going round in small circles smelling each others 'bits' while the owners chatted. Then after doing that, they were playing together.

Men's hands? Oh my.... yes, women have rules that most men just don't understand or get. I've got simian lines on both hands. Would that matter? Or do you mean the shape of mens hands? Or the size? (Apostrophe problem strikes again so I've left them out.)
 
kesavaross said:
I sometimes think that dogs especially almost 'see' with their noses. I watched two dogs the other week out the front to where I live going round in small circles smelling each others 'bits' while the owners chatted. Then after doing that, they were playing together.

Men's hands? Oh my.... yes, women have rules that most men just don't understand or get. I've got simian lines on both hands. Would that matter? Or do you mean the shape of mens hands? Or the size? (Apostrophe problem strikes again so I've left them out.)
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OMG - you have Simian Lines on both hands?? I wrote about that the other day here, I've only seen that once, very rare! I have a Simian Line on my left hand.
And I'm not sure what it is about hands that bothers me, but in my view some hands appear to be 'kind' and others are not, they give me the creeps, and I stay away from those people.
 
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Ever notice how dogs and cats have to sniff you first, before they can decide whether you are a friend?
 
Yup, both hands. I missed that thread as I only generally tend to look at the forum at weekends by which time the numbers on the alarm bell thing at the top numbers in the hundreds. I could take a picture of each hand and post it on the appropriate thread if you want.

With me, it's not hands or smells, instead I tend to go what I feel about the person. A good while back someone moved in downstairs from where I live (I live in a tower block). He knocked on my door to apologise about the noise of him moving in and his plans to decorate. There was something about him I just didn't like even though he was polite, friendly and chatty. A few months later a note was put up in the foyer stating that under 'Sarah's Law', what ever that is, that this bloke was a convicted pedophile. As an aside, where I live is opposite a junior school and next door to an infants school. The council must have known about his conviction. A few weeks later he was gone.

Smell though, I've never ever considered that as a means to decide whether the person is a suitable companion? After many disastrous relationships as an adult, I doubt if I'll ever try and find out. I'm now a committed bachelor.
 
I think you guys might not be consciously 'aware' of the 'smell' thing.
And aren't pheromones something that float through the air, and which we are not aware of?
 
Out of curiosity wikipedia claims one of the main ingredient in pheromones is androstenone which smells different depending on the person.

Some people says it smells like vanilla, some say poop smell, and some say it smells like urine.
 
Everyone smells different. Based on a small sample, I grant you.

I'm not talking about externally applied chemicals.

And so I don't think its just pheromones, it's the whole sum of an individuals chemical makeup. After all, we know short term changes in your body odour can occur because of what you eat or drink. Garlic comes out in the sweat, for example.

So yes, I'm sure that smell is as important a part of attraction (or repulsion) as any other physical attribute. Not that there is any need to go as far as a couple I knew many years ago who were so enamoured of each other's odour that they gave up washing for three months. Fortunately I was still smoking back then.

I suspect it has something to do with the reason why women like wearing their fella's clothes, at least around the house. Social norms presumably prevent it happening a lot the other way round. Although my second wife and I used to exchange T-shirts and things. I'm XL, she was XXL - not much diff after a few washes.
 
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So yes, I'm sure that smell is as important a part of attraction (or repulsion) as any other physical attribute. Not that there is any need to go as far as a couple I knew many years ago who were so enamoured of each other's odour that they gave up washing for three months. Fortunately I was still smoking back then.
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Eeks, I don't even want to think about three months! :)
 
I know a woman who finished with her boyfriend of two months.
She told me that though she liked how he looked, he smelt like stale milk.

Once at a friend's house there was a group of people and a friend told me he would introduce me to a woman who was single, in the hope that we'd get on.

She looked nice enough, and we made polite conversation.

After 15 minute it finished and I went to get a drink.

My friend asked how the conversation had gone, and was I going to ask her out.

I said she was pleasant enough, but she didn't smell right.
It was not her perfume, but she had a sort of fruity odour which put me off.
 

Bromidrophilia: Beauty is in the Nose of the Besniffer​


“Coming home soon; don’t wash,” Napoleon Bonaparte once wrote to his wife, Joséphine. It’s unclear from this snippet of a love note if the most famous Emperor in French history had a certifiable case of bromidrophilia—a paraphilia in which the individual finds the natural body odors of attractive people to be the most arousing erotic stimulus imaginable.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...hilia-beauty-is-in-the-nose-of-the-besniffer/

maximus otter
 
charliebrown said:
Out of curiosity wikipedia claims one of the main ingredient in pheromones is androstenone which smells different depending on the person.

Some people says it smells like vanilla, some say poop smell, and some say it smells like urine.
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Lyall Watson wrote about Jacobson's Organ [Jacobson's Organ and the Remarkable Nature of Smell (2000)] and its role in the detection of other people and suggested that firstly, it was almost subconscious, with the organs themselves being 'wired' (as it were) to the lower brain and secondly, that such smells might act as triggers for memories that manifest as spectres/ghosts in the subject.

He also mentions an almost fecal odour that he ascribes to this 'detection'.

Interesting note on this here, (although Lyall got there before):

https://www.thoughtco.com/jacobsons-organ-and-the-sixth-sense-602278
 
Women’s magical and secret weapon called oxytocin.

A woman’s secreted oxytocin causes men to organism quicker and a woman’s uterus to contact in spasms to help the sperm along its way.

Oxytocin makes a women “ warm and fuzzy “ to cause the need to bond and care for their partner, or their baby, and in general to nurture their loved ones.

Women know their kids smell, but I have to admit sometimes my grandkids smell like a “ gym locker room “ at times.
 
I was told that in the Age of chaperoning and separation of the Sexes at formal events, dancing was a popular past-time because it allowed you to get close to a prospective partner and determine if they smelt of rotten meat.
 
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