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Soft Drinks (Soda, Pop, Carbonated Beverages, Etc.)

Pete Younger said:
Just goes to show how history can be distorted in young minds.:(

Perhaps it just happened in Bolton then.

I can remeber my Granny saying she used to talk to the girls who frequented the bar when she was little - "they were very nice, of course they were paid to be nice, but not to me though..." There was deffinately a lot of prostitution in Late C19th / early C20th Lancashire.

One of the areas in my parents which has had a big posh estate built in it used to be the "red light" district. Its funny how people put up signs saying "the old forge" or "the grange" but never "the old brothel".;)
 
My In-laws (now deceased) lived in Portsmouth for quite a while. One night, they were out walking and Ma demanded Pa to take her to his local boozer. After failed attempts to dissuade her (on the truthful grounds that she might find it a little too "common" or "rough") he finally did so. She ended up sitting in a corner, refusing to admit she didn't want to be there, surrounded by sailors, tarts and drunken dockers. Apparently, the tarts weren't exactly the discrete, card-in-a-phonebox type.
Strangely, Pa was never allowed to go to his local again ...
 
Originally posted by Stormkhan

I used to drink unfeasable quantities of snakebite (sans black) and pernod 'n' black. So what have we now? Alcopops - drinks aimed at kids who can't take the taste of real alcohol

Special Brew + Smirnoff Ice = Turbo Shandy!
:cross eye
 
Down our way it's a Stella and Smirnoff Ice that makes a Turbo Shandy. And Soong took time out of his busy lifestyle to come up with the variation, a Turbo Finger, Smirnoff Ice and Bishops Finger real ale. Minging.:cross eye
 
Originally posted by Stormkhan


Ah, Babysham ... Pre-mixed snowballs, bottled guiness and Woodbine fags! My Christmas childhood memories are made of these ...

Asda do Snowballs as well, and my personal favorite, Cherry B.
They seem to have this little retro booze section, or should that be muck...?
 
Hi

this is really spooky

source:
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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=572924

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Official: Coke takes over parts of the brain that Pepsi can't reach

By Steve Connor, Science Editor

17 October 2004

The mind-altering power of advertising has been demonstrated in a remarkable study of the way in which brand recognition affects the workings of the human brain.

A well-known label is so influential, say researchers, that it can alter consumers' perception of the product's taste. They believe the findings are particularly important given the role that sugared soft drinks have on the epidemic of childhood obesity and type 2 diabetes.

The experiment, a laboratory-controlled version of the famous Pepsi Challenge, revealed that flavour seems to be the last thing that consumers rely on in their preference for Pepsi or Coca-Cola.

When asked to taste blind, they showed no preference. However, when the participants were shown company logos before they drank, the Coke label, the more famous of the two, had a dramatic impact: three-quarters of the tasters declared they preferred Coke.

At the same time the researchers found that the Coke label stimulated a huge increase in activity in parts of the brain associated with cultural knowledge, memory and self-image - so much that the scientists could use brain scans to predict which soft drink an individual was likely to prefer. The Pepsi label produced no such increase.

It is believed to be the first time that brand marketing has been shown to have a direct effect on the brain's capacity to make a choice.

Although the finding seems calculated to delight the marketing industry, it suggests that a handful of iconic brands have a particular hold on the public mind. Coca-Cola is so firmly established that it changed our perception of Christmas by persuading us that Santa Claus wears red. This "tradition" is believed to be largely the result of decades of December advertising in which Santa sported the company's corporate colour.

The findings suggest there is no scientific basis for claims made during the Pepsi ad campaign in which testers purportedly chose Pepsi over Coke when they were not told what they were drinking. "We initially measured these behavioural preferences by administering double-blind taste tests," the researchers say in their study, published in the current issue of the journal Neuron. "We found that subjects split equally in their preference for Coke and Pepsi in the absence of brand information."

The scientists chose Pepsi and Coke because the two drinks are almost indistinguishable in colour and taste yet many people express a definite preference for one or the other soft drink. "Everybody's heard of Coke and Pepsi. They have messages and, in the case of Coke, those message have insinuated themselves in our nervous system," Dr P Read Montague, director of the Brown Human Neuroimaging Laboratory at Baylor College in Houston, Texas, said. "There's a huge effect of the Coke label on brain activity related to the control of actions, the dredging up of memories and self-image. There is a response in the brain which leads to a behavioural effect."

Simply looking at a person's brain scan, the scientists were able to predict which soft drink the individual concerned was likely to prefer. "We were stunned by how easy this was," Dr Montague said. The ventral putamen, which is involved in reward-related learning, was active when people drink Coke or Pepsi. This is expected as the brain treats the pleasant taste of sugared water as a reward.

However, the scans also showed that the hippocampus and dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, areas of the brain involved in recalling emotions and cultural memories, were involved when the volunteers were exposed to the Coke brand. The Pepsi brand, meanwhile, had virtually no effect.

Dr Montague said that the work can help to understand why people form eating or drinking habits that may not be good for their health.

"We are not trying to figure out how to market something better. We want to be able to better understand how brains work so that we can cure more neurological disorders."

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Mal F
 
Although I don't drink anything but water really anymore (as per the dentist's instructions) I used to prefer Pepsi over Coca Cola, mainly because it seemed less thick and gloopy. And Pepsi Max too, just because (despite being sugar free as I recall) it was incredibly sweet, and I have a terrible sweet tooth.
 
Anyway it seems to me this research kind of confirms what we already knew about the power of brands. People prefer certain brands over others for about a billion different reasons, tied up with fuzzy things like personality and culture and community - but it seems amazing to see fundamentals of marketing confirmed neurologically! Vindication for marketeers who have been accused of trading in bullshit?
 
Funnily enough I took part in one of these type of experiments years ago. I prefer Coke over Pepsi and I was able to tell the difference in a blind tasting. Pepsi is just not the same at all.
 
There definitely is a difference in taste between the two.

I still reckon there's cocaine traces in the red brand, even if it is illegal to still have it in.
 
Last I heard they still had their Coca plantations, although I just assumed that was for the executives ;)
 
Curious Ident said:
There definitely is a difference in taste between the two.
Definitely!

I've always preferred Coke. I did hear that part of the reason Coca-Cola backtracked so quickly on "New" Coke was that people were turning in droves to Pepsi, which tasted more like Old Coke than New Coke did.

Unless the conspiracy theory is true, that New Coke was a a massive publicity stunt.

Surely not ;)?

BTW - am I alone in thinking that Vanilla Coke tastes like Calpol?
 
stu neville said:
BTW - am I alone in thinking that Vanilla Coke tastes like Calpol?

I've only tried it once (it came out post-my not drinking acidic things), but I didn't think it tasted like Calpol.

I assume you mean the purple sort, which had the best flavour ever, and I used to want more whenever I had a headache. They really shouldn't make medicines so tasty.

I've always wondered what the flavour actually was, in the hope of recapturing it. I believe it's a fruit, although I forget what.
 
(emerges from medicine cabinet)

Yeah, the purple one. It wasn't a criticism of the flavour per se, but it does have a medicinal overtone to it. I prefer straight Coke or Cherry Coke.
 
stu neville said:
BTW - am I alone in thinking that Vanilla Coke tastes like Calpol?

I wouldn't say Calpol, but it definitely sucks.

The entire point of Coke is it's supposed to be refreshing. Vanilla Coke's after-taste means that it really isn't...
 
No you're right, it isn't Calpol (just had a swig of it).

It's def some sort of childhood medicine though...
 
Vanilla Coke just tastes like American Cream Soda to me, I don't remember any childhood medicines tasing like that.
Cherry Coke was (is?) absolutely minging, Pepsi gives me furry teeth. I'd rather have a glass of milk, unless I'm hungover, when it's diet Coke all the way.
 
I don't know what's in Vanilla Coke, but I am utterly addicted to it. The first time I tried it, I hated it.

If those scientists were to surgically remove my tin foil hat, they would find Vanilla Coke stamped right through what's left of my brain. :(

(Coke and codeine tablets work every time for my migraines, though) :gaga:
 
stu neville said:
No you're right, it isn't Calpol (just had a swig of it).

It's def some sort of childhood medicine though...

I think it tatses like liquid penacillin - the one that looks like thin custard and you had for tonsillitis.
 
That's it!

Horrendous stuff! Made you feel even worse after taking it..
 
I remember the stuff - it was grim.

It is similar to vinalla coke after taste, but not quite.
 
stu neville said:
That's it!

Horrendous stuff! Made you feel even worse after taking it..
Yes, but did you ever complain of feeling ill again after that? No, it was the perfect cure.

*I actually used to quite like the taste of liquid penicillin...*
 
Filcee said:
Yes, but did you ever complain of feeling ill again after that? No, it was the perfect cure.

*I actually used to quite like the taste of liquid penicillin...*

Don't tell me, you love Red Bull too?:D
 
Curious Ident said:
Don't tell me, you love Red Bull too?:D
Ugh, no, minging stuff...smells like stale vomit from about 2 yards...:cross eye
 
Filcee said:
Ugh, no, minging stuff...smells like stale vomit from about 2 yards...:cross eye

That stuff always smelled medicinal to me.

Isn't it made from Bull Bile, or something?
 
still off topic, but root beer tastes exactly like germaline medicinal toothpaste. The pink stuff.
 
Lemon Coke is the most despicable stuff. I'm suprised they're still selling it. I used to buy Pepsi until they started plastering pictures of David Beckham dressed up like an extra from Mad Max all over the can. Whatever was that all about? (I don't have TV, BTW)
 
stu neville said:
BTW - am I alone in thinking that Vanilla Coke tastes like Calpol?

the one time I tried Calpol* I quite liked it so...no.


*I was drunk at the time...you know: looking after the house while a family member's away for a few days. 'Oh look,' you say after one to menny glasses of wine'they've left the Calpol! I wonder what it tastes like...'

I've never tasted Rusks (but I'm told they're realy, realy nice...)
 
stu neville said:
No you're right, it isn't Calpol (just had a swig of it).

hitting the hard stuff again stu?

Benilin's chesty [who's tht laughing in the back - you there boy!] cough medicine is the most stinky thing in the world.

I had to drink two glasses of Safeway's cherry fizzy stuff to get rid of the taste this morning :cross eye

Actualy I used to know someone who drank benilin. She'd take hudge gulps of the stuff...20 minutes later she fell asleep - sometimes standing up. Strange behaviour...
 
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