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What is the SW aesthetic, anyhow?

It seems to involve so many different elements.
Fair point, yet there is a certain style that you can't just bring anything into. Every now and then, Star Wars brings culturally recognisable elements from the real world into the otherwise fantastical world of the franchise. Dex's diner, Canto Casino, and these mods from The Book of Boba Fett are examples. It never feels right.
 
What is the SW aesthetic, anyhow?

It seems to involve so many different elements.
Honestly? it's primarily what generic pop-sci-fi used to be. 60s and 70s sci-fi used those visual elements a lot. So SW is kinda like retro-sci-fi now.
 
Star Wars is...Western/Space Opera/samurai epic....though also other things.

There seem to be rules...or not, as the case may be.

There are diners and luxury casinos; we don't see them much as we don't exactly mix in those sort of social circles.

There are also launderettes and fortune tellers booths.

(one thing we haven't seen in SW is supermarkets; most shopping is done in street markets, even in Coruscant).

There are a lot of very ordinary things.
 
The Book of Boba Fett chapter 3, I felt, didn't really work. It felt as though it was written and directed by a five year old. The cyborg kids on speeder-scooters completely clashed with the Star Wars aesthetic. After loving last week's episode, and getting excited for this week's, I'm very disappointed by how uneven this show is turning out to be.

It was alright, but it seems to be stalled on Fett trying to establish his manor, and getting nowhere with it. But Danny Trejo brightened it up a little.
 
Yes, at last, a Wookie who is not a soft toy.

Hmmm...

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I wonder if that influenced Matt Berry's 'Toast' constantly telling everyone "I'm doing the latest Star Wars Movie" in Toast of Tinseltown.

I think that series has been extremely influenced by Matt Berry's Hollywood work! I love the way every time he boasts to someone he's in Star Wars, they're like "Hm, whatever!"
 
Anyway, for some reason I thought I was watching The Book of Boba Fett but this week I was actually watching The Mandalorian.
As far as I can tell, we're getting only six episodes of The Book of Boba Fett. So far, we've had only three I can say I've enjoyed, and of those one was really an episode of the far superior The Mandalorian. I hope next weeks finale makes the whole thing worth the effort. They really didn't have to do much; just have Boba Fett and Fennec Shand build a criminal empire, cleverly out-manoeuvring their opponents. I'm not really sure what we actually got.
 
It is a bit vague and thrown together, isn't it? Apart from the million dollar effects, that is. But I thought there were seven episodes? I might be wrong.
 
It is a bit vague and thrown together, isn't it? Apart from the million dollar effects, that is. But I thought there were seven episodes? I might be wrong.
I’m assuming they have to get in quick with this monetised fan fiction as genuine, sincere fan fiction is actually done with love and an interest in the subject that goes a bit further than a dollar value.
 
I’m assuming they have to get in quick with this monetised fan fiction as genuine, sincere fan fiction is actually done with love and an interest in the subject that goes a bit further than a dollar value.

It's easy to be cynical, but whatever the merits of corporate cash-ins, the creatives making the effects, models and makeup are having a whale of a time and it shows. It really is a well-designed show (as was Mando).
 
Yes, that was the impression I got of it, that a lot of heart had gone into it.

(Unlike the ST).
 
It is a bit vague and thrown together, isn't it? Apart from the million dollar effects, that is. But I thought there were seven episodes? I might be wrong.
It seems you were correct. I don't know from where I got six episodes.

The latest episode was great, and once again, an episode of The Mandalorian rather than The Book of Boba Fett. An exciting cameo at the end in the form of...

Cad Bane! See The Bad Batch episode 'Bounty Lost' to see his past with Fennec Shand.
 
You’re absolutely right. And when it comes to huge franchise-eating corporations, it’s healthy too.

The trouble with that is, the corporations get stuff made, and employ the talent, which enables the talent to use their abilities on other projects. Just try getting a galaxy-spanning space opera made on an indie budget now, and getting it distributed, too. Assuming you could raise a budget.
 
The trouble with that is, the corporations get stuff made, and employ the talent, which enables the talent to use their abilities on other projects. Just try getting a galaxy-spanning space opera made on an indie budget now, and getting it distributed, too. Assuming you could raise a budget.
It's a weird paradox, the main-line stuff is super safe in terms of marketability... but is it actuallly popular? hmm... sometimes....
 
It's a weird paradox, the main-line stuff is super safe in terms of marketability... but is it actuallly popular? hmm... sometimes....

With the move to streaming things are even less popular, as you will only see it if you have the streaming service. The Lord of the Rings films were a huge deal, this new Middle Earth series on Amazon will only be seen by people with the service and it will be competing with the Game of Thrones spinoff (which may get its own spinoff), The Witcher, The Wheel of Time, a Disney+ series based on Willow and no doubt other things already in development. There's also various Star Wars and Marvel series in existence or development.

I've heard and read little to no discussion on The Wheel of Time, I wonder if it will soon be cancelled. I think the Middle Earth series will get a buzz in the lead up to starting which will soon fade - extremely quickly if they dump all the episodes at once. Subsequent series will get less and less buzz and it will get lost in the mulch of expensive Fantasy series that people take for granted and ignore.

I remember reading an observation that the final series of GoT and Avengers: Endgame represented the end of monoculture, them being the last narrative media that captured the zeitgeist so completely due to streaming and the ongoing breakdown of the monoculture we've had since the World wide web. The most recent Spiderman came a lot closer to capturing some of that than I thought was possible, so there's still some fumes in the tank.

I dare say there will soon be some sort of Harry Potter streaming series for HBO Max, I imagine Time Warner are negotiating this with Rowling right now. If you told the me of twenty years ago that there would be all this Fantasy/fantastical TV and film, I'd never believe it. If you also told me I'd ignore virtually all of it and wearily view at it as an exhausting morass of nothing, I'd have been truly incredulous. Nonetheless, here we are.
 
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I haven’t seen Cad Bane. Is it another case of the classic Star Wars nominative determinism that gave us Maul, Grievous and Sidious?
 
With the move to streaming things are even less popular, as you will only see it if you have the streaming service. The Lord of the Rings films were a huge deal, this new Middle Earth series on Amazon will only be seen by people with the service and it will be competing with the Game of Thrones spinoff (which may get its own spinoff), The Witcher, The Wheel of Time, a Disney+ series based on Willow and no doubt other things already in development. There's also various Star Wars and Marvel series in existence or development.

I've heard and read little to no discussion on The Wheel of Time, I wonder if it will soon be cancelled. I think the Middle Earth series will get a buzz in the lead up to starting which will soon fade, extremely quickly if they dump all the episodes at once. Subsequent series will get less and less buzz and it will get lost in the mulch of expensive Fantasy series that people take for granted and ignore.

I remember reading an observation that the final series of GoT and Avengers: Endgame represented the end of monoculture, them being the last narrative media that captured the zeitgeist so completely due to streaming and the further breakdown of the monoculture we've had since the World wide web. The most recent Spiderman came a lot closer to capturing some of that, so there's still some fumes in the tank.

I dare say there will soon be some sort of Harry Potter streaming series for HBO Max, I imagine Time Warner are negotiating this with Rowling right now. If you told the me of twenty years ago that there would be all this Fantasy/fantastical TV and film, I'd never believe it. If you also told me I'd ignore virtually all of it and wearily view at it as an exhausting morass of nothing, I'd have been truly incredulous. Nonetheless, here we are.
Good comment. Remember Star Wars made its impact as it was different from the westerns and cop films that were the thing back in the day.

I agree with the sentiment of wading through identical mush graded in teal and orange. Again Star Wars took the approach of having the feisty Princess but today, that’s every female character in absolutely everything. I’ve said before that I don’t have Disney and the future cinematic releases of Marvel or Star Wars characters will have left me behind as there’s so much going on in the streaming versions, I‘m off the ride.

I watched 2 episodes of The Wheel of Time. I suppose I should give it the honour of referring to it as TWOT in true fanboy fashion. There wasn’t anything there that really caught my attention in a good way. There was some clumsy plotting and dialogue but my main gripe was I just didn’t like the characters. The kids just looked a bit too ‘street’ for the world they live in and I just couldn’t be bothered to continue to watch episodes of her just waving her arms about.

All the software for the effects is the same. All the effects are the same. All the grading is the same. While GNC makes the perfectly valid point that these things keep the talent going, that’s not much good when the people with the most basic equipment - pencils writing scripts - let the side down before production even starts. Some may eagerly lap all of this up but I watched Star Wars in the cinema when it first came out and I’m sixty now.
It seems weird to me that there’s still a market for this simplistic flashy franchise.

I‘m dreading what modern messages they’ll shoehorn into LOTR and frankly, I haven’t got a lot of time left and I can’t afford to waste it watching crap.
 
Good comment. Remember Star Wars made its impact as it was different from the westerns and cop films that were the thing back in the day.

I agree with the sentiment of wading through identical mush graded in teal and orange. Again Star Wars took the approach of having the feisty Princess but today, that’s every female character in absolutely everything. I’ve said before that I don’t have Disney and the future cinematic releases of Marvel or Star Wars characters will have left me behind as there’s so much going on in the streaming versions, I‘m off the ride.

I watched 2 episodes of The Wheel of Time. I suppose I should give it the honour of referring to it as TWOT in true fanboy fashion. There wasn’t anything there that really caught my attention in a good way. There was some clumsy plotting and dialogue but my main gripe was I just didn’t like the characters. The kids just looked a bit too ‘street’ for the world they live in and I just couldn’t be bothered to continue to watch episodes of her just waving her arms about.

All the software for the effects is the same. All the effects are the same. All the grading is the same. While GNC makes the perfectly valid point that these things keep the talent going, that’s not much good when the people with the most basic equipment - pencils writing scripts - let the side down before production even starts. Some may eagerly lap all of this up but I watched Star Wars in the cinema when it first came out and I’m sixty now.
It seems weird to me that there’s still a market for this simplistic flashy franchise.

I‘m dreading what modern messages they’ll shoehorn into LOTR and frankly, I haven’t got a lot of time left and I can’t afford to waste it watching crap.

Teal and orange? You're lucky to identify any colours in a Marvel movie, Snyder decided to do them with his Justice League "Snyder cut" and push out as much colour as possible without going black and white.

I agree all effects have now converged, likely as you say, to the same software and the special effects people working against the clock to shit out all this nonsense for The Content Machine.

All this bullshit is a lot like the stock exchange/cryptos or the ghost cities in China, enormous amounts of money poured into something useless with the intent of propping up the company and economy. It doesn't matter if what is produced is ultimately ignored.
 
There you go, Boba Fett done for now. Maybe they should have persuaded Temuera to keep the helmet on? But the extended battle was nicely done, everyone using their special powers. A bit Marvel-y. Alright, very Marvel-y.
 
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