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Conciously percievable things can be subliminal depending on how your brain picks it up. If you subconcoiusly register something, even if it is possible to be seen consouisly then it is still subliminal.
No they can't. By definition something subliminal is only registered by the subconcious. If it is registered conciously then it is not subliminal.Conciously percievable things can be subliminal depending on how your brain picks it up.
Suggestion/subliminal... they both have the same effect.Adrian Veidt said:Then that isn't subliminal, it's merely suggestion. Not registering something as important at the time isn't the same as it being subliminal.
Think what would happen if this kind of thing got into the goverment's hands... anyway, not all conspiracies are to do with the goverment. How the Media and corparations run our lives is also important.Edward said:I'm still not seeing where the conspiracy is
When did I say any of that? And you accuse ME of being bad at maths.Edward said:Adam, you are constantly adding 2 and 2 and getting 36. If you're suggesting that somehow the government or 'other' powers could subliminally get us to do whatever they want then you'd better WAKE UP my friend.
I'll compare the likelyhood of that to one of Uri Gellers 'hypnotize the nation' stunts being successful, it'll never, never happen.
You've already given your thoughts on the article so why are you coming back? Just becuase I posted an article it doesnt mean that I believe in what is said. You've directed that comment straight at me becuase you are of the misguided opinion that i believe advertisers are putting out 'suggestive' messages. Try having a discussion next time.Cursed said:Here's an idea for you, Adam.
Contact a local advertising agency, magazine or TV/radio station. Ask to do a week's work experience. See how it works for yourself.![]()
Probably true.Adrian Veidt said:Adam. If you follow that link I posted, it says that there is no evidence to suggest that subliminal conditioning works.
Ok, it is just one site, but I find it persuasive. I think human beings are far too complex creatures to be susceptible to something like that. Maybe certain individuals could be vulnerable, but to suggest that the population as a whole could react to the same stimuli in exactly the same way is, frankly, laughable.
You've already given your thoughts, too, but it doesn't seem to stop you posting. Am I not allowed?Originally posted by Adam Rang
You've already given your thoughts on the article so why are you coming back?
I directed it at you to let you know how to get into the environment you are talking about and get some primary evidence for yourself.You've directed that comment straight at me becuase you are of the misguided opinion that i believe advertisers are putting out 'suggestive' messages. Try having a discussion next time.
Use your brain.
Whilst the quote below may be true your posts would lead any anyone to think that you are defending the original articles position. You gave us no qualifying text in you first post and continued to argue the meaning of subliminal for a page and a half.Think what would happen if this kind of thing got into the goverment's hands... anyway, not all conspiracies are to do with the goverment. How the Media and corparations run our lives is also important.
I think you did believe what it said.Just becuase I posted an article it doesnt mean that I believe in what is said.
Read the thread again. I came back becuase we were discussing the difference between 'suggestion' and 'subliminal'. At this point you returned with a clumsy attack at the origonal point made by someone else which you decided to attribute to me.Cursed said:You've already given your thoughts, too, but it doesn't seem to stop you posting. Am I not allowed?
Perahaps I should suggest that YOU read the thread again. Where exactly is the following attack?Think what would happen if this kind of thing got into the goverment's hands
Being heavily involved in the offending industry I would like to continue the debate and therefore would find it usefil if you would clarify your position Adam. Cheers.At this point you returned with a clumsy attack at the origonal point made by someone else which you decided to attribute to me.
Did I?Edward said:.. at your suggestion i have re-read the thread.
It seemed pretty common sense to me... what would happen if the people at the top of the pyramid got control of capabilities to steer the people at the bottom more effectively.Could you explain EXACTLY the position which lead you to say this.
Cursed made an out of context comment specifically aimed at me. I dont know how else to interpret it.Perahaps I should suggest that YOU read the thread again. Where exactly is the following attack?
As a friendly suggestionAdam Rang said:Cursed made an out of context comment specifically aimed at me. I dont know how else to interpret it.
I think that qualifies as a suggestion. As you weren't specific which words I had to start at the begining and therefore had read the whole thread.Edward, please read my words carefully.
Corporately and Politically this already occurs on a huge scale and has been occuring for hundreds if not thousands of years. It may now be more sophisticated but only because the audience is more sophisticated.what would happen if the people at the top of the pyramid got control of capabilities to steer the people at the bottom more effectively.
It was a general comment advising you how read my posts in the future.Edward said:I think that qualifies as a suggestion. As you weren't specific which words I had to start at the begining and therefore had read the whole thread.
Corporately and Politically this already occurs on a huge scale and has been occuring for hundreds if not thousands of years. It may now be more sophisticated but only because the audience is more sophisticated.
It is my job to 'effectively' sell ideas or products to people, depending on the sophistication of the product/idea and the audience dictates how sophisticated the research and application is.
There is no conspiracy.
The folowing quote was written by me less than ten minutes ago. May I suggest that you read other posts properly.That depends to what extent its happening. Once we've found that out we can say wether or not it is actually a 'conspiracy'.
As I said before NO CONSPIRACYCorporately and Politically this already occurs on a huge scale and has been occuring for hundreds if not thousands of years.
I do not know what motives there are, or to what extent this is being carried out, or if it is happening. That is my official position as I said before Edward.Edward said:As I said before NO CONSPIRACY