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Superstition

Some superstitions (such as not walking under ladders or leaving scissors open) stem, in fact, from common sense avoidance of accidents.
*Trips over a black cat, drops his hand mirror and falls head first down an open manhole.*
 
You must never...ever...pass somebody on the stairs. Not sure why, my Mum told me so. To this day, if I meet somebody on the stairs, I walk back down (or up) and wait for them to go down (or come up)!! :D

Me too for salt throwing, magpie saluting, ladder dodging, umbrella banishing, cutlery uncrossing, no shoes or hats on beds, no shoes on tables and remember...(takes deep breath) NO PASSING ON THE STAIRS!!!
 
No passing on stairs? Reducing the possibility of accidentally(?) knocking a person over, then down, a flight of stairs?
 
escargot1 said:
It is also said that a lost item will only be found in the last place you look for it.

Why this belief came about, I cannot say.

Well that's obvious, 'cos you stop looking when you find it, but what I want to know is why it's also in the first place you looked, two hours earlier, before rearranging the contents of your entire house looking for it.

I think the no shoes on furniture rule is pretty sensible, because shoes are dirty.
 
No ones mentioned broken mirrors yet have they.?
In our family if a mirror was broken,we used to bury the broken pieces somewhere they wouldn`t be disturbed,to deflect the 7 years bad luck we believed would befall us.lol!
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The passing on the stairs thing is, I've always believed, connected to coffins being carried out of a house. You'd have to stand aside to let the bearers pass and you don't want to tempt fate by doing that too realistically! :shock:

I use a spiral staircase several times a day at work and often pass people coming the other way. I say cheerily 'I hope you're not superstitious!' as I breeze by - can't somehow see the undertakers dragging a coffin down there! ;)

Anyway, here's a nice little Guardian article about caterers' superstitions -

A Thai restaurant in London changed sites the other day, and marked the occasion by calling in Buddhist monks to bless the new venue. This practice is apparently de rigueur in Thailand: the chanting, incense and holy water, the romance and ritual, are thought to imbue a business with good fortune and the prospect of success.

It turns out, in fact, that religion, superstition and a belief in the paranormal are surprisingly common among restaurateurs.

etc
 
Poke around in enough Chinese and Korean restaurants and there's a fighting chance that you'll turn up a golden pig.
 
A novel approach to examining superstition and how it affects markets.

Artist tests superstition on the stock market with robot analyst
August 6th, 2012 in Technology / Software

(Phys.org) -- Shing Tat Chung, a designer, artist and graduate of the Royal College of Art, has partnered with Jim Hunt, computer programmer with a British trading group, to create what appears to be the world’s first computer controlled investment fund buyer/seller program that uses superstition to make its choices, rather than math, or science. Called Sid the Superstitious Robot, the program is the result of The Superstitious Fund Project, which Chung started to raise interest, and funds, for his initiative.

Chung has a lifelong interest in superstition; his mother was a big influence (and one of his investors). Growing up he became fascinated by the decisions people make that have no real basis in science, such a fear of black cats, or walking under a ladder. After graduation, he started a blog detailing his ideas and thoughts on the topic which included his musings following the Flash Crash of 2010, which was when worldwide stock markets took a dive, apparently because of issues with the automated buy/sell programs now used routinely throughout the world by large investment companies. This got him to wondering if such a program built on algorithms that followed superstition, rather than logic, might turn up some surprising results.

Not being a programmer himself, Chung partnered with Hunt, and together the two of them decided on the kinds of superstitious events that might impact stock purchasing decisions, i.e. Friday the thirteenth, full moons, new moons, etc. Hunt then coded those along with other standard stock trading procedures into an open source investment program and then the two turned to the internet to see if anyone would be willing to add real money to their cause. There were, they managed to garner £4828.88 via 144 investors, just prior to their official start date of June 1st, which was deemed an appropriately superstitious “good” day, by a fortune teller Chung consulted.

Thus far, the fund hasn’t done very well, it’s down about five percent, but Chung has been diligent in reminding investors that the project could result in total loss of an investment. The point is, after all, he says, to see if stock market purchasing and selling decisions are as susceptible to suggestion as are many of the other financial decisions people make on a daily basis. He also points out that the program Hunt wrote is designed to learn as it goes, thus making it potentially smarter at recognizing good and bad days, and in the end, finding out if it’s possible to make money in the stock money, using superstition as a guide.
© 2012 Phys.org

"Artist tests superstition on the stock market with robot analyst." August 6th, 2012. http://phys.org/news/2012-08-artist-sup ... alyst.html
 
rynner2 said:
ramonmercado said:
A novel approach to examining superstition and how it affects markets.

Artist tests superstition on the stock market with robot analyst
August 6th, 2012 in Technology / Software

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http://phys.org/news/2012-08-artist-sup ... alyst.html
Yith posted a longer version of this story here:
http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/viewt ... 14#1244914

That was the Yith, must have missed it. But you're right its much more comprehensive.
 
Peanuts, Blackjack and Pee: Strangest Space Mission Superstitions
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/ ... rstitions/
By Tanya LewisEmail Author August 10, 2012 | 4:07 pm | Categories: Space

The tension was palpable in the control room at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in the minutes leading up to the Aug. 5 landing of the Mars rover Curiosity. Rows of headset-clad flight controllers in matching pale blue polo shirts huddled over their computers, awaiting the rover descent’s ”seven minutes of terror.” Then, seemingly from nowhere, bottles of peanuts started to appear, and soon all the engineers and scientists were munching on handfuls of the proteinaceous snack.

It’s just one of a slew of superstitious NASA traditions, and the Russian space program has its own share. So much for scientific rationality.

“We all have our rituals, and we create values associated with them,” said space historian Roger Launius of the National Air and Space Museum. “Over a period of time, institutions adopt mores that acculturate individuals into the group or define the organization. I don’t think they’re consciously created for that purpose,” he said, but “people tend to find themselves a part of this culture and want to perpetuate these traditions.”

The peanut tradition started in the 1960s during JPL’s Ranger missions, which were spacecraft designed to fly into the moon and take pictures of it. The first six Ranger spacecraft failed during launch or while leaving orbit, but on the 7th launch, someone brought peanuts into mission control, and the mission succeeded. It’s been a tradition at JPL launches and landings ever since.

These are some of the other timeless traditions of the world’s space-exploring elite:

NASA Traditions

On the day of their launch, many NASA astronauts eat scrambled eggs and steak, as a tribute to astronaut Alan Shepard, who ate this breakfast before his Mercury Freedom 7 flight in 1961.

Before a launch, the commander must play cards (supposedly either Blackjack or 5-card poker) with the tech crew until he loses a hand. The tradition’s origins are a mystery, but it may have begun during the two-man Gemini missions.
The suit-up room, where astronauts must wait an hour while purging their bodies of nitrogen, contains the same recliner chairs as it did during the Apollo era.

After the shuttle orbiter was successfully transported from the Orbital Processing Facility to the Vehicle Assembly Building, the managers would provide the team with round donuts and bagels. It may have to do with the fact that these foods are round like the wheels of the shuttle transporter.

After a successful launch at Kennedy Space Center, the launch controllers enjoy a hearty meal of beans and cornbread. The tradition started when Former NASA Test Director Chief Norm Carlson brought in a small crock-pot of beans after the first space shuttle launch, STS-1. Here’s his recipe (.pdf).

Dating back at least to the Apollo missions, astronauts have awoken in space to music chosen by mission control, such as Dean Martin’s “Going Back to Houston.”
Gene Kranz, the famous mission controller of Apollo 13, had his wife make him a new waistcoat for each mission. As Kranz worked to save the crew of Apollo 13, he was wearing a white vest, as depicted in the 1995 film. The vest is now displayed in the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum in Washington.
After a launch at Kennedy Space Center, it is customary for rookie launch directors, test directors and engineers to have their neckties cut (an aviation tradition following a pilot’s first solo flight).

Russian/Soviet Traditions

Before leaving the Star City training complex near Moscow, Soyuz flight crews leave red carnations at the Memorial Wall in memory of first man in space, Yuri Gagarin, and four other cosmonauts. They visit Gagarin’s office, sign his guestbook, and supposedly ask his ghost for permission to fly.

As the train that carries the Soyuz rocket booster approaches the Baikonur Cosmodrome, people place coins on the tracks to be flattened into good-luck charms.

The crew are forbidden to attend the rollout of the Soyuz rocket to the launchpad because it is said to be bad luck; instead, they must have a haircut on this day.
The night before launch, cosmonauts attend a mandatory screening of the 1969 cult movie “White Sun of the Desert.”

On launch day, the cosmonauts have a champagne breakfast and autograph their hotel room door.

At the hotel, a Russian Orthodox priest blesses the Soyuz crew and sprinkles them with holy water. This is a post-Soviet tradition, started by cosmonaut Aleksandr Viktorenko, who requested a blessing before the Soyuz TM-20 crew’s launch to Mir.

As the crew leaves the hotel, the Soviet-era rock song “The Grass Near My Home“ is played by the band Zemlyane (“The Earthlings”).
The cosmonauts travel to the launchpad in buses outfitted with horseshoes for good luck.

On their way to the launch, Russian cosmonauts are known to urinate on the right rear wheel of their transfer bus, an act supposedly performed by Yuri Gagarin. Female cosmonauts are excused, but certain women have been known to carry vials of their urine to spill in solidarity.

The Soyuz capsule carries a small talisman hung from a string, chosen by the crew commander, which signifies when weightlessness is achieved.
 
After the shuttle orbiter was successfully transported from the Orbital Processing Facility to the Vehicle Assembly Building, the managers would provide the team with round donuts and bagels. It may have to do with the fact that these foods are round like the wheels of the shuttle transporter.

TOTALLY rational. :roll:

One wonders what would happen to an astronaut or NASA engineer who wasn't superstitious or just didn't eat steak.
 
Here's one which baffled me: I finished reading Iain Banks' novel Espedair Street recently, and in amongst a paragraph about superstitions he mentioned blue sheets on the bed were supposed to be lucky.

Have any of you heard of that, and if so, what is it about? Or was it something made up for the book?
 
I've not heard that one before!

Edit - there's a Mexican superstition about honeymoon bed sheets being blue, to ensure that the couple's sex life will be fulfilling. Blue representing masculinity and all that, y'know.
 
Thanks, there's nothing about Mexico in the book though, if anything from the context it would be a Scottish superstition, but I've never encountered it.
 
After reading a section in Animals In Translation by Temple Grandin about how pigeons and pigs have been observed to develop superstitions I totally dropped any slight nod to superstition myself. It is a function of the brain connected with learning that can become overblown and is totally meaningless.
 
Poke around in enough Chinese and Korean restaurants and there's a fighting chance that you'll turn up a golden pig.

To expand on this, a lot of new businesses buy or are given a metal pig as a good luck omen. Many then conceal or inconspicuously place the pig on the premises. Pigs are associated with money in Chinese folklore and mythology and are thought to 'attract' money to their owner.

By chance, I was poking around in a bric-a-brac store in Chinatown on the very week I started my own business. Most of the stuff on sale was junk, but, never one to miss a good story, I had to buy the chap below when I spotted him. He was rather grimy for the ten quid or so I paid, but he cleaned up well enough and has a pleasantly dull patina. He's about the correct size to fit comfortably in one palm, and although I don't know what metal he is made of, he is heavier that you'd imagine and pleasantly smooth and round when held.

The business has thrived, and while I'm not convinced he is the cause, I shall not be parting with him!

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To expand on this, a lot of new businesses buy or are given a metal pig as a good luck omen. Many then conceal or inconspicuously place the pig on the premises. Pigs are associated with money in Chinese folklore and mythology and are thought to 'attract' money to their owner.

By chance, I was poking around in a bric-a-brac store in China town on the very week I started my own business. Most of the stuff on sale was junk, but, never one to miss a good story, I had to buy the chap below when I spotted him. He was rather grimy for the ten quid or so I paid, but he cleaned up well enough and has a pleasantly dull patina. He's about the correct size to fit comfortably in one palm, and although I don't know what metal he is made of he is heavier that you'd imagine and pleasantly smooth and round when held.

The business has thrived, and while I'm not convinced he is the cause I shall not be parting with him!

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Looks like bronze. Has a happy vibe.
 
Yeah I've been influenced/infected by the superstitions of Johnny Foreigner too!

In Russia there still exists a tradition of people consulting dream interpreation guides to see what their fortune holds. Many Russians - women mostly - will have a `sonik`. A `sonik` is is a dream dictionary that explains to them what their dreams foretell.

Before you question whether this counts as `superstition` or not, I should explain that thses Soniks are not the dream interpreation guides of the Western post-Freud/post Jung variety- but rather they are fortune telling items that make often very abstruse connections between dream images and what will occur in the future (e.g dream of fish and you will become pregnant - but some are a lot more obscure than that).

I had a Russian one - but it was just too much effort to not just translate my dream but translate the langiuage too - so, following a tip off from a Russian lady - I found an English language version of Gustavus Hindman Miller's 1909 classic -An alphabetical Guide Through the Imges of Sleep - which was just the job.

So I use to consult this after a recalled dream and see it it correlated with a future event (hell, I was bored - and it went down well with the ladies!) Most of the time nothing...except..

One night I had a curious dream about finding bats had entered through a window in an upstairs room. I leafed through my Dictionary only to find that this dream fortells a sudden and tragic incident.

Nothing happened to me, but the following day a colleague announced that he had to return to the States because a family member was seriously ill. His disappearnce also had a knock on effect on us and the school we worked for -as we had to cover his classes, etc.

I did wonder a bit at the time, but, on balance...nah! Superstition has the power to enrapture anybody when times are uncertain...

The Miller Book is a great historical document though!
 
Interesting. My first thought would be to wonder how universal such symbolism would be. I once had a boozy dinner with a very highly-respected psychologist (interesting man: he had been a medical officer on submarines when young and later specialised in mental development in young children). When I referred to Jung in support of some point or other I was enquiring about, he opined that psychoanalysis has limited application in East Asia as the people of the region conceptualise themselves differently, or using different templates and metaphors (forgive the vagueness, it was boozy and through his second language). Anyway, one wonders whether and how far from the place of origin such symbolism can travel before it fades--if there be any truth in the whole concept.
 
Pigs are associated with money in Chinese folklore and mythology and are thought to 'attract' money to their owner.

I've seen small metal pigs, or rather boars, on sale at a gift shop connected with a tourist attraction somewhere in the UK but for the life of me I can't remember where.
A Celtic symbol, I think. Cornwall?
 
A superstition of my wife's. Whenever she salted food while cooking, she used to throw a pinch of salt over her left shoulder. Anyone know what that's about? It's one of the things I never asked, having discovered early in our relationship that she didn't like to talk about her past.

(There were a lot of difficulties in her past as well as one highly abusive relationship, I knew some of this when we first went out. Some would have wanted to pour it all out, she didn't , she wanted to put it behind her. )
 
A superstition of my wife's. Whenever she salted food while cooking, she used to throw a pinch of salt over her left shoulder. Anyone know what that's about? ...

This was the superstitious follow-up to spilling salt, which was supposed to be bad luck. It was common among my family when I was a child.

I don't think I've ever heard this action prescribed for applying / sprinkling salt in general, without there being an accident or error involved.
 
Aren't you supposed to be throwing the salt in the face of the Devil, who has crept up behind you hoping for salt-spillages for reasons best known to himself?
Yep, that's it.
 
Isn't that salt supposed to go in the Devil's eyes?
Sure, the powerful Lucifer Morningstar, ex-archangel, ruler of Hell and all its dominions, stopped in his tracks with a bit of a stinging eye. Makes sense. :D
 
Sure, the powerful Lucifer Morningstar, ex-archangel, ruler of Hell and all its dominions, stopped in his tracks with a bit of a stinging eye. Makes sense. :D

I can just picture it. :) Remember to be buried with a pinch of salt so you can see off the Devil. No need for all that prayer and stuff.
 
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