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Er.... let's state the obvious. The guy is on video and as a community race relations guy, wishes to keep a low profile as far as mixing with the fuzz is concerned. Still, he ends up getting tasered in the face.

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Isn't refusing to give your name when asked by the police and attempting to evade them by trying to enter a house, even a tiny little bit suspicious?

They said they suspected him of being someone named '%$^&""*"*GHDAB**("
The correct response surely is 'I'm not '%$^&""*"*GHDAB**("

I suspect you of being the colour blue.
I am not the colour blue
Then I suspect you are Godzilla.
I am not Godzilla.
Do you know Mothra?
Er...

'Taser, Taser, Taser....Taser him in the face'.

And to quote Matt Johnson of 'The The'... a little dog barks its head off in the distance.

...Making this a complete and utter symphony of a cock-up.
 
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Given his work with the police, he might well have regarded being asked that as taking the piss.

Even if he'd been quite rude to them, tasering him in the face is still a huge over-reaction. What happened to these things being a safer alternative to using firearms? Rather than the go to response for trivial percieved noncompliance?
 

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Given his work with the police, he might well have regarded being asked that as taking the piss.

Even if he'd been quite rude to them, tasering him in the face is still a huge over-reaction. What happened to these things being a safer alternative to using firearms? Rather than the go to response for trivial percieved noncompliance?
Well, quite, and he's not exactly a teenager out for trouble, is he?

With hindsight, he might have found a better way of maintaining the moral high ground than the one he chose. If he'd said "My name is Judah Adunbi, and I live here. What are your names, and why do you need to know?", things might've been different. Who am I kidding? He'd probably have been tasered in the bollocks.
 

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Given his work with the police, he might well have regarded being asked that as taking the piss.

Even if he'd been quite rude to them, tasering him in the face is still a huge over-reaction. What happened to these things being a safer alternative to using firearms? Rather than the go to response for trivial percieved noncompliance?
Tasering him in the face might have blinded him if one of the spikes had gone in his eye.
Normally, police are told to discharge a firearm at the body, not the face.
 
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This is the dramatic moment a thug armed with an axe was TASERED by police in front of horrified shoppers in a busy city centre.

Rinemo Burrowes, 22, was pursued by officers from Birmingham New Street station after they received reports of a man brandishing a weapon and alarming passengers.

The yob was bundled into a wall by a have-a-go hero but managed to run off again before he was finally cornered by police outside the Bullring shopping centre. ...

http://www.thelondoneconomic.com/mu...-around-city-centre-axe-tasered-police/01/03/

Vid at link.
 

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What a horrid lot. They guy needed stopping but it doesn't mean people have to view it as entertainment, standing around filming and laughing at it.
 

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Uh oh...
Devon and Cornwall police to get new and more powerful tasers to protect communities and officers
By C_Becquart | Posted: May 12, 2017

The use of a much more powerful taser by Devon and Cornwall police has been given the green light. They could be issued by November 2018.
The Home Office recently announced the authorisation of the Taser X2 as the conductive energy device model for use in the UK.
Devon and Cornwall police will convert to this new model within the next 18 months.

Policing minister Brandon Lewis said the change was made after the X26 went out of production and the new type has undergone medical tests, the Mirror reports.
Unlike the previous model, the laser-guided X2 has two cartridges allowing the holder to shoot two electric shock bursts in a short space of time.

Chief Superintendent Jim Nye, ops commander for Devon and Cornwall Police & Dorset Police, said: "With ever evolving demands on policing, our officers must have the right equipment to keep both communities and themselves safe, and the next generation Taser X2 is considered the safest conductive energy device model for both the officer and the subject."

Not only tasers will be more powerful, but also there will be more officers carrying one in Cornwall.
"Alongside this conversion, Devon and Cornwall Police intends to increase the number of officers trained to carry Taser from the current 550, to up to 1,200 by September 2019," Jim Nye explained. "This represents around 85% of the regular, uniformed front line officers (excluding PCSOs & Special Constables); about 41% of total officer strength."

The chief superintendent said both measures were taken in a bid to protect both communities and officers themselves.
He said: "Figures from 2016 show that Devon and Cornwall Police dealt with 21 incidents involving knives every day. Equipping officers with a Taser helps to ensure that not only is the safety of the community maximised.
"Incidents are dealt with promptly but also serves to ensure more of our officers are better protected. In rural and more isolated areas where there is threat of harm and risk to life of the public, back up to responding police officers may not be close by. Increasing the number of officers carrying a Taser is considered as a way of better protecting communities.
"It is also hoped the move will reduce the increasing number of assaults on police officers. During 2016, 492 police officers were assaulted in Devon and Cornwall, four receiving serious injury."
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http://www.cornwalllive.com/devon-a...-to-increase/story-30328344-detail/story.html
 

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A disturbing development:
Man Tasered by police in Falmouth dies in hospital
24 May 2017

A man armed with a knife who was Tasered by police has died in hospital.
Devon and Cornwall Police officers Tasered the man, who had self-inflicted knife injuries, in Langton Road in Falmouth, Cornwall at about 21:00 BST on Tuesday.

The man died later at the Royal Cornwall Hospital and his next of kin have been informed.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) is investigating.

Police said they were called to a property where "officers were confronted with a man who was in possession of a knife".
The force added: "Due to the unfolding dynamic incident, police deployed a Taser."

The IPCC said it has been told "the man sustained self-inflicted knife injuries and was taken to hospital where he subsequently died".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-40032022

Some years ago that road was part of my post round!
 

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Misleading headline - the self-inflicted knife injuries are far more likely to have contributed to his death than the taser.

Doesn't say how he got those self-inflicted knife injuries though. It is perfectly possible that on being Tazed he dropped the knife and then proceeded to fall on it or have it catch him somewhere important on the way down.
 

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This sounds quite bizarre:

A man has been Tasered by police after reports people were being attacked at a London mosque just before 01:30 BST.

Officers said they acted after finding a man waving an "item" around near the London Central Mosque in Regent's Park.

There were no reports of any injuries and the suspect is being held at a central London police station on suspicion of affray.

The force said it was not treating the incident as terrorism-related and said the item being waved was a shoehorn.


"Officers are keeping an open mind regarding any motivation for the incident", the force said in a statement.
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Another case of police acting badly: Darren Sullivan, who has a serious back condition and required hospital treatment, said: "I'm saying, 'I'm disabled. I've got a broken back. But [the police officer] wouldn't listen."

Police have apologised to a disabled father and son who they shot in error with a Taser after suspecting them of being involved in an attempted robbery.

Darren Sullivan, 49, and his 74-year-old father, John, were shot with a stun gun after being unable to respond to police orders to get down, they say.

The pair, from Bexhill, East Sussex, were released after a four-hour ordeal.

They have lodged a complaint with Sussex Police, whose Professional Standards Department is investigating.

Darren and John Sullivan were both shot with the weapon after their car was stopped in London Road, Bexhill, by armed police responding to reports of an attempted armed robbery at a post office.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-41126387
 
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A tad OTT.

The Cincinnati police department said it’s reviewing its policies after an Ohio police officer used an electroshock weapon on an 11-year-old girl accused of shoplifting, an incident which prompted local city officials to call for a “complete investigation.”

Police said it all started inside a Spring Grove Village store around 9:30 p.m. Monday. The girl, a fifth grader who is not being identified because she is a underage, was allegedly spotted taking merchandise at a Kroger grocery store and placing it in a backpack. Police claim that when an off-duty police officer approached the girl, she “ignored the Officer and continued to walk away.” That’s when the officer then shocked the child with the Taser’s prongs, hitting her in the back.

Authorities have not defended the officer’s actions.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...pmgnews__TheMorningEmail__080918&guccounter=1
 

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A tad OTT.

The Cincinnati police department said it’s reviewing its policies after an Ohio police officer used an electroshock weapon on an 11-year-old girl accused of shoplifting, an incident which prompted local city officials to call for a “complete investigation.”

Police said it all started inside a Spring Grove Village store around 9:30 p.m. Monday. The girl, a fifth grader who is not being identified because she is a underage, was allegedly spotted taking merchandise at a Kroger grocery store and placing it in a backpack. Police claim that when an off-duty police officer approached the girl, she “ignored the Officer and continued to walk away.” That’s when the officer then shocked the child with the Taser’s prongs, hitting her in the back.

Authorities have not defended the officer’s actions.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ohio-cop-used-taser-on-11-year-old-girl-accused-of-shoplifting_us_5b6b44e3e4b0530743c69532?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__080918&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__080918 CID_22685bd45ba3eb8217575972500f9e95&utm_source=Email marketing software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__080918&guccounter=1
Police over there are a bit too willing to use the taser, aren't they?
 
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She's lucky she'snot kicking up daisies now.

Police in the US state of Georgia are standing by an officer who turned his taser on an 87-year-old great-grandmother gathering dandelions.

On Friday, officers responded to a call from an employee of a kids’ club in Chatsworth, around 100 miles north of Atlanta, who expressed concern about a woman who appeared to be loitering outside the building with a knife.

The caller said that the woman was “walking around looking for something, like, vegetation to cut down or something”, adding: “She's old so she can't get around too well.”

Chatsworth police chief Josh Etheridge and two officers arrived on the scene, where they found 87-year-old Martha Al-Bishara cutting dandelions on a patch of grass opposite her home, intending to use them in a salad.

The officers ordered her to put down her weapon - a kitchen knife - and raise her hands in the air.


http://www.theweek.co.uk/95881/us-p...letter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter
 

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Tasering by police is on the increase for BAME, mentally ill and the learning disabled.

Lengthy Guarding article that's well worth a full read.

Max's story is particularly disturbing, luckily there was CCTV that showed the police had given a very inaccurate (to put it kindly) version of events in falsely claiming they were assaulted:

The action happens within just a few moments. Margaret points to the screen. “Did you see that?” She rewinds. The video appears to show a very different sequence of events from that described in the officers’ statements. Max has both arms up, hands above his head in apparent surrender. “I can’t see him push anyone,” Margaret says. “He puts his hands down to be handcuffed and then he suddenly gets scared and decides to run away.” She slows down the footage. “It happens very quickly, but can you see the police officer pushes Max in the chest?” The video shows Max losing his balance and falling to the floor. As he struggles to get up, officer A fires the Taser. One barb landed in the back of Max’s neck, the other in his upper back.


“It is a home for people with learning disabilities and mental health issues,” says Margaret. ‘You don’t go around Tasering vulnerable people as your first option. That should be your last option.”
 

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Tasering by police
is on the increase for BAME, mentally ill and the learning disabled.
Perhaps because black people and the mentally disturbed commit a disproportionate amount of crime?

Perhaps because Tasers are now more widely issued, and people who previously would have had to be wrestled with and/or beaten with batons are now Tased?

Let’s have some context: In the year ending March 2017 the police made 779,660 arrests. In 2016 there were 11,294 Taser “uses”. (“Use” includes simply drawing the weapon; or just “red dotting” the offender with the aiming laser to let him know he’s on thin ice).

Therefore, in 98.6% of arrests, Tasers aren’t even drawn, much less fired.

In 85.5% of Taser “uses”, it isn’t fired, i.e. the darts aren’t projected into the offender and current passed.

This means that Tasers are fired in 0.23% of arrests.

Not such a good Guardian headline, is it?

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Perhaps because black people and the mentally disturbed commit a disproportionate amount of crime?

Perhaps because Tasers are now more widely issued, and people who previously would have had to be wrestled with and/or beaten with batons are now Tased?

Let’s have some context: In the year ending March 2017 the police made 779,660 arrests. In 2016 there were 11,294 Taser “uses”. (“Use” includes simply drawing the weapon; or just “red dotting” the offender with the aiming laser to let him know he’s on thin ice).

Therefore, in 98.6% of arrests, Tasers aren’t even drawn, much less fired.

In 85.5% of Taser “uses”, it isn’t fired, i.e. the darts aren’t projected into the offender and current passed.

This means that Tasers are fired in 0.23% of arrests.

Not such a good Guardian headline, is it?

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I honestly can't believe you just posted that.

Are you hoping to get the thread shut down?

I've no intention of engaging with this line of discussion further.
 
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