The Enfield Poltergeist

CuriousIdent

Not yet SO old Great Old One
Joined
Jul 7, 2004
Messages
1,512
Reaction score
1,360
Points
184
Location
Warwickshire, England.
I don't! My point was that Grosse was as needy as the family, in his own way. The picture(s) of him grasping Janet might these days raise other questions but they all look hungry for something. :thought:

Indeed it might. However, I genuinely don't believe there was anything dodgy going on in *that* regard. Nothing more than a traumatised man perhaps superimposing some of his own personal grief onto the situation.

But in other regards I don't think that Maurice Grosse was anything other than professional in his investigation. I don't believe him to have been fraudulent or trying to portray things in an artificial way.

Yes, we do know that the Girls admitted to faking 'some' of what went on. And one could argue that perhaps the duration of the investigation *could* have been influenced both by Grosse's subliminal need to cling on to the memory of his daughter and on the Girls' need for a father figure in the household. But I don't think that this one can be easily classified as falling into the category of, say, seeking attention for publicity and financial gain.

When the Warrens came ambulance chasing in that manner they were sent on their way. And realistically (a brief period of newspaper and local news attention aside) the majority of the investigation was neither public spectacle nor any real gain for those involved.

Far from it, in fact. I do not doubt for a second that it had anything other than a detrimental effect on those directly involved.
 

catseye

Old lady trouser-smell
Joined
Feb 1, 2010
Messages
3,716
Reaction score
12,893
Points
224
Location
York
From the look of the back garden, it seems some renovations may be being undertaken. Be interesting to see if this stirs anything back up...
 

titch

Justified & Ancient
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
3,589
Reaction score
4,867
Points
174
Currently reading "the Enfield poltergeist tapes" I would highly recommend it, it is thought Janet was the victim of a sex attack in durrants park and the father was convicted of child molestation when he was 15.....whatever the truth of the poltergeist the family's story is tragic.
 

Swifty

doesn't negotiate with terriers
Joined
Sep 15, 2013
Messages
31,847
Reaction score
50,830
Points
289
Currently reading "the Enfield poltergeist tapes" I would highly recommend it, it is thought Janet was the victim of a sex attack in durrants park and the father was convicted of child molestation when he was 15.....whatever the truth of the poltergeist the family's story is tragic.
What was he convicted of doing to the child and how old was the child? .. if he was 15, he would have still been a child himself but then there's a big difference between a 15 year old boy and a (lets say) 13 year old girl pulling their pants down to see each other's private parts and things much worse than that.
 

skinny

aka Wuluwait, Boatman of the Dead
Joined
May 30, 2010
Messages
8,026
Reaction score
8,649
Points
299
Location
Planck Units
I wanted to get into Janet's obvious pathology but decided not to. The poor poor woman will have been through enough. She was so young. So little.
 

titch

Justified & Ancient
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
3,589
Reaction score
4,867
Points
174
What was he convicted of doing to the child and how old was the child? .. if he was 15, he would have still been a child himself but then there's a big difference between a 15 year old boy and a (lets say) 13 year old girl pulling their pants down to see each other's private parts and things much worse than that.
Just says the father was convicted of child molestation when he was 15, and his daughters had been. No further details.
 

Swifty

doesn't negotiate with terriers
Joined
Sep 15, 2013
Messages
31,847
Reaction score
50,830
Points
289
Just says the father was convicted of child molestation when he was 15, and his daughters had been. No further details.
Thanks titch .. I wonder what the writer means by "and his daughters had been"? .. molested? ..
 

Swifty

doesn't negotiate with terriers
Joined
Sep 15, 2013
Messages
31,847
Reaction score
50,830
Points
289
Oooh nothing like that! I missed out " informed of his conviction " I really am a natural bald
That must have freaked them out. I now wonder how old their father was when they were conceived.

edit: I should probably stop pestering you and just buy the book
 

cpm82

Devoted Cultist
Joined
Jan 25, 2017
Messages
118
Reaction score
95
Points
29
Location
Herts & Minds
So is the new book hinting that there was some pretty awful stuff taking place domestically?
 

titch

Justified & Ancient
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
3,589
Reaction score
4,867
Points
174
So is the new book hinting that there was some pretty awful stuff taking place domestically?
The author is admirably unbiased, he relates what is on the tapes then let's the reader make up their own minds, but the family does appear to have more problems then I originally thought.
 

cpm82

Devoted Cultist
Joined
Jan 25, 2017
Messages
118
Reaction score
95
Points
29
Location
Herts & Minds
That has been hinted previously.
 

skinny

aka Wuluwait, Boatman of the Dead
Joined
May 30, 2010
Messages
8,026
Reaction score
8,649
Points
299
Location
Planck Units
You know what they say. Poltergeists don't happen in happy families.
Do happy families happen? Is that even a thing? I wonder what it looks like.
 

skinny

aka Wuluwait, Boatman of the Dead
Joined
May 30, 2010
Messages
8,026
Reaction score
8,649
Points
299
Location
Planck Units
Well that's encouraging. Pay no mind to my skepticism. I need to change my black heart.
 

titch

Justified & Ancient
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
3,589
Reaction score
4,867
Points
174
Mrs Hodgson was not impressed by the Warren's, saying they talked about making money and where "trying to capitalise on the case"
 
Top