Fascinating, not to say spooky! Do you have any links to reports of this, I'd love to see them. I know from my own experiences that the moorlands around Sheffield can be beautiful and eerie places, with lots of weirdness about!...over the last thirty years, a number of people in the oldest part of the area (bang next door to a church on an apparently pre-Christian worship site) claim to have seen a seven foot tall green figure wandering the more lonely places in the area
They may well come from the same basic source, but Herne has always struck me as a more baleful figure than the Green Man, though some of those medieval GM carvings have got pretty horrid expressions on their faces. The Green Man seems to me to be a fairly benign force of nature (though not to be taken lightly), connected with forests and woodland. Herne is the frightening Master of the Wild Hunt, and is said to appear when England is in great peril. It's a shame that the story of some teenagers in the 50s encountering Herne after finding a horn hanging from a tree in Windsor Great Park, probably isn't true.carole said:Is the Green Man any relation to Herne the Hunter or is that a totally different thing?
Thanks Cyberangel! I had vague memories of Herne being something like that, but couldn't quite remember. Shame he couldn't lead the wild hunt at present, but what with foot and mouth and all that . . .cyberangel said:he is said to return at a time of national crisis, and also leads the wild hunt, chasing souls accross the sky.
Yeah, a Green Man was more likely to survive the 19th century "restoration" of many of our churches, whereas there are supposedly quite a few Sheelagh-na-gigs which were replaced by something a little less offensive to the Victorian mindset, or destroyed completely (such as the female exhibitionist on the west front of Rochester Cathedral, who has had her naughty bits hacked away at some point).James Whitehead said:Johnnyboy asks why the Church tolerated the Green Man
carvings. They may have been relieved to have one instead
of a Sheenagh-ma-Gigg!
Thanks, I'll ask them.Johnnyboy said:I've got a great book (which unfortunately I can't find at the moment) which is stuffed full of beautiful photos of green men from all over Medieval Europe. Euro-green men seem to be mostly of the leaf mask type, where the face itself is composed of leaves. The "classic" face surrounded by and disgorging foaliage seems to be a British thing. There are also a few green men, mostly leaf masks, from antiquity, and some from later centuries.
Sorry to be so vague, but I can't find the book at all! Maybe the fairies have got it