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Haryana Police arrested comedian Kiku Sharda from Mumbai following the complaint that he mimicked Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh and hurting religious sentiments. Kiku, best known for playing Palak on the popular TV show Comedy Nights with Kapil, has been sent to 14-day judicial custody.

The actor was arrested for mimicking Baba Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh, ANI reported. He was reportedly booked under section 295 A of the Indian Penal Code (outraging religious feelings of any class by insulting its religion or religious belief)”

http://www.hindustantimes.com/tv/tv...-sentiments/story-R5L0x1xIfJ5bgsOHOVCRJK.html
 
A French museum has returned the head of a 7th Century Hindu statue to Cambodia 130 years after it was taken.

The statue, a representation of the Hindu gods Vishna and Shiva, had its head taken in French colonial times.

It was returned by the Guimet Museum in Paris at Cambodia's request and reattached to the body on Thursday.

A Cambodian culture ministry spokesman said joining the head to the statue felt "like we are reconnecting the soul of our national heritage".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35378747
 
The 'beef ban hysteria' whipped up by hindutva fundamentalists has claimed two more lives. Accroding to Times of India, two Muslim men herding eight buffaloes on their way to a local Friday market were bashed up and hanged to death from a tree by unknown assailants at Balumath forests in Latehar district, of Jharkhand state of India, in the wee hours on Friday. The buffaloes were freed by the men and locals claimed the assailants were Hindu radicals.

The TOI report further says,

The deceased Muhammad Majloom, 35, was a relative of Azad Khan alias Ibrahim who is around 15-years-old. The two had their hands tied together behind and their mouth was closed with a cloth. "The sight suggested that the two of them were subjected to extreme levels of brutality. It means that the assailants were moved by extreme hatred," a police officer said.

In Jhabbar village of Balumath the sight of the hanging men engaged in cattle trade, sparked protests by locals. The protests turned violent when police tried to take down the bodies. SDO Kamleshwar Narayan and six cops were injured when locals pelted stones at officials who arrived in the morning to manage the situation and ensure that it does not take communal turn. ...

Prior to this incident 5 people were killed by the beef ban hysteria. It all started with the lynching of Mohammed Akhlaq. On 28 September, 2015 a mob lynched 50-year Mohammed Akhlaq, over the rumours of eating and storing beef. The Muslim man's killing on 28 September led to a massive outrage across the country. ...

http://www.countercurrents.org/cc180316A.htm
 
Does Bharat Mata Approve Of Beef Lynchings?

“A mob is the scum that rises upmost when the nation boils.” John Dryden, English Poet

The picture showing two Muslims – one of them a teenaged boy – hanging by a tree in Latehar, Jharkhand is going to haunt the Republic for a long time. Nothing indicts the failure of a criminal justice system like a lynch mob. Whether they may seem to reflect righteous anger or not, whether they operate by design or default, lynch mobs prove that the State has lost sole control over coercive power, the cornerstone of maintaining law and order.

And, in this case, the lynching was by design. But first, lets look at some facts of the case. The victims were cattle traders. Self-designated vigilante groups, moonlighting to protect cows, which sacred to Hindus, the majority religion of India, apparently killed the two traders. One of the five arrested suspects, Mithilesh Prasad Sahu, is, in fact, a member of a cow protection committee, something disclosed by the Latehar Police Chief Anoop Birtharay. These vigilantes are nothing new to the countryside, it must be noted. It is just that they were never this murderous before the incumbent regime came to power.

And it is here that the design enters the frame. The Latehar lynching is not the first one. The murders started in Dadri, a village in Uttar Pradesh, thousands of kilometers away, in the outskirts of Delhi, the national capital. A lynch mob was organized there following open calls on a public address system of a temple against a family’s alleged consumption of beef. ...

http://www.countercurrents.org/samar210316.htm
 
Kashmiri Hindus: Driven out and insignificant

In a room opposite an ancient temple in Srinagar, four men - two Hindu and two Muslim - are hotly debating the "forced" exodus of hundreds of thousands of Kashmiri Hindus from Indian-administered Kashmir in the early 1990s.

The two Muslims sympathise with the Hindu migrants, also known as Kashmiri Pandits, calling them victims of circumstance. They admit the Hindus were wronged, but are quick to add that they were helpless to stop the mass migration.

For the Hindu men, temple keeper Maharaj Pandita and his friend Sanjay Tikku, the "absence of the Muslim community's collective guilt" over what happened is a familiar frustration.

It has been 27 years since a violent armed insurgency erupted in Kashmir, completely paralysing its politics and crippling its economy. ...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35923237
 
Jharkhand: Facebook post by two teenagers, disrespecting Goddess Durga, leads to communal riots in Bermo

The minor was about to be hacked by right-wing activists before the local police intervened and took him into custody. This triggered a waye of anger among the hardliners and led to communal clashes.

Ranchi, April 10: Social media created havoc in the Jharkhand town of Bermo, nearly 15 kilometres away from the city of Bokaro. Two teenagers, one reportedly minor, had shared and commented on a post allegedly disrespecting Goddess Durga. This led to destructive communal clashes after hardline Hindu groups spotted the post on Facebook.

While the details of minor have not been released by Bermo police, the other accused has been identified as Adil Akhtar. The 19-year-old is son of Mohammed Enamul Haq, who runs battery-charging shop in the town. Adil had reportedly deleted the post after one of his friends on the social media reacted angrily to it. However, the news of his irresponsible post had gone viral in the town by then. Hindutva groups armed with weapons burned down shops, vehicles and a large number of homes in Bermo. ...

http://www.india.com/news/india/jha...rga-leads-to-communal-riots-in-bermo-1096789/
 
A video showing some members of Hindu nationalist group Bajrang Dal receiving training in firearms recently went viral on Indian social media platforms. BBC Hindi's Nitin Srivastava attends one of its training camps in northern Uttar Pradesh state.

It is an extremely hot afternoon in Siddharth Nagar district where around 100 teenagers armed with wooden sticks and knives are practising how to "decimate any attacker" in a large, fortified school campus.

Not very far from them, another group of around 50 youth are taking turns to squeeze past a ring of fire, some even getting bruised in the process.

Loud slogans of "Bharat Mata Ki Jai" (Long live mother India) reverberate as a dozen of them start performing dangerous tricks with fire.

About 100 guests, including women, who are watching the show from a distance, clap aggressively after every stunt....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36415080
 
My husband is a Hindu, from Nepal, the birthplace of Hinduism and of Sri Buddha.

We are both very dismayed at the current political Hindutva developments in India. It's on a par with political extreme Islam and extreme fundamentalist Christianity in the U.S. and some African states. We kind of expected it when Modi was elected but it's a volatile unpleasantly patriotic atmosphere over there at the moment.

Remember that Gandhi was murdered by a right wing Hindutva activist (as was Yitzhak Rabin by an Jewish ultranationalist)
 
How about hindu creationism in India? Is it true that is making a comeback?
 
How about hindu creationism in India? Is it true that is making a comeback?
To be honest I don't know.

What we have seen unfolding over the past 2 years has been an upsurge in right wing mob mentality, fuelled by a belief that India should be a 'politically Hindu' nation. It hasn't been helped by Modi appointing sympathetic Hindu pandits and gurus to government departments and those people publically saying very daft stuff - for example http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-kids-Sakshi-Maharaj/articleshow/45782862.cms

Hinduism as a dharma (spiritual practice and/or belief) is actually very, very accommodating to all kinds of traditions and practices, and is not essentially pantheist but regards Mahadev/i as both the male-female godhead and the birth of the universe in one IIUIC. All the other named gods are avatars of God.

However there are people and groups who have taken post-colonial outrage, political Hinduism, bloody awful sexist attitudes and similar notions and applied it to their village, area, Mandir (temple) or movement and conflated it with Hindu dharma. Mob mentality is a bit easier to stir up in south Asia for some reason, and is also depicted as fairly acceptable in films and TV. There is also the occasional statement that a non-Indian person cannot be a 'true' Hindu (eg European converts).

This is much more apparent in India than in Nepal, where I dressed local and also wore Hindu head markings while out & about, found I was treated the same as other visitors to Hindhu/Buddhist holy sites (in Nepal the two dharmas have syncretised to some extent)

I know a fair bit about Hinduism by now, especially the Ramayana as my other half's name stems from Sri Ram, so happy to try to answer questions if I can :)
 
More Hindutva violence in India - it seems that the rumour of 'eating beef' is now enough to provoke or provide pretext for any attack.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-37336050

"An Indian woman has said that she and her 14-year-old cousin were gang raped and two relatives murdered, after being accused of being Muslims who ate beef.

The woman, 20, told the BBC that four men carried out the attack in northern Haryana state two weeks ago. She denied consuming beef.

She said the men beat her uncle and aunt to death in their home in Mewat.

Many Hindus consider cows sacred and the slaughter of the animal is banned in several states, including Haryana.

The suspects have been arrested and charged with rape and murder.

However police have told reporters that there is no evidence to suggest that cow protection groups were involved in the attack.

Although the alleged rape took place two weeks ago, news of the incident has only just come out.

"They [the accused men] said that we ate cow meat and that is why we were being disgraced [raped]. They even threatened to kill me and my family if we ever told anybody what happened to us," the woman told BBC Urdu."
 
A sad but semi-regular event in India: a stampede/crowd crush at a Hindu religious site that has left people dead & injured:

"CHANDAULI/NEW DELHI: At least 24 people were killed in a stampede at Rajghat bridge on the border of Varanasi and Chandauli where a large number of people had gathered for a religious event on Saturday afternoon..."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...aos-claim-organisers/articleshow/54868907.cms

FYI one "lakh" is a number = 100,000
 
A sad but semi-regular event in India: a stampede/crowd crush at a Hindu religious site that has left people dead & injured:

"CHANDAULI/NEW DELHI: At least 24 people were killed in a stampede at Rajghat bridge on the border of Varanasi and Chandauli where a large number of people had gathered for a religious event on Saturday afternoon..."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...aos-claim-organisers/articleshow/54868907.cms

FYI one "lakh" is a number = 100,000

I also posted it at: http://forum.forteantimes.com/index.php?threads/religious-stampedes.52810/page-2#post-1621041
 
Muslim man killed after being attacked by hundreds of 'cow vigilantes' in India
Cows are considered sacred in the Hindu religion.


A MUSLIM MAN has died after he was attacked by hundreds of Hindu vigilantes while transporting cows in India, police said today, amid rising tensions over the slaughter of the sacred animal.

Pehlu Khan, 55, died in hospital late on Monday, two days after a mob attacked his cattle truck on a highway in Alwar in the western state of Rajasthan.

Cows are considered sacred in Hindu-majority India, and their slaughter is illegal in many states.

In parts of northern and western India, squads of vigilantes roam highways inspecting livestock trucks for any trace of the animal.

Alwar police chief Rahul Prakash said at least six others were injured in the attack, but had now been discharged from the hospital. ...

http://www.thejournal.ie/muslim-india-cow-3324712-Apr2017/?utm_source=shortlink
 
Maybe if we convince the religious that humanity is sacred then there wouldn't be quite as many murders.
 
Muslim man tied to tree, beaten to death for being in love with Hindu woman
INDIA Updated: Apr 07, 2017 22:04 IST

Villagers in Jharkhand’s Gumla district allegedly tied a 20-year-old Muslim man to a tree and thrashed him for hours for being in love with a Hindu woman, leading to his death, police said on Friday.

The man – identified as Mohammad Shalik, a resident of Raza Colony in Gumla town – was allegedly in a relationship with a Hindu woman of a nearby village, Soso, for more than a year, sources said.

The girl allegedly called the boy to meet her at Gumla town for the Ram Navami procession on Wednesday. Fearing trouble, Shakil initially refused but finally went to meet her on a scooty and dropped her home, police said.

It is then that a group of neighbours saw Shalik and surrounded him, tied him to a tree and assaulted him for hours, the woman was quoted as saying by police. He succumbed to his injuries on Thursday. ...

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...hindu-woman/story-cJF6zGNilUK4mngaMpIhNI.html
 
Bloody religion. :(
 
Muslim man killed after being attacked by hundreds of 'cow vigilantes' in India
Cows are considered sacred in the Hindu religion.


A MUSLIM MAN has died after he was attacked by hundreds of Hindu vigilantes while transporting cows in India, police said today, amid rising tensions over the slaughter of the sacred animal.

Pehlu Khan, 55, died in hospital late on Monday, two days after a mob attacked his cattle truck on a highway in Alwar in the western state of Rajasthan.

Cows are considered sacred in Hindu-majority India, and their slaughter is illegal in many states.

In parts of northern and western India, squads of vigilantes roam highways inspecting livestock trucks for any trace of the animal.

Alwar police chief Rahul Prakash said at least six others were injured in the attack, but had now been discharged from the hospital. ...

http://www.thejournal.ie/muslim-india-cow-3324712-Apr2017/?utm_source=shortlink

More on this case.

An Indian Muslim died of his injuries after a group of men transporting cattle were attacked by members of a suspected cow protection vigilante group. BBC Hindi's Nitin Srivastava travelled to the victim's village in the northern Indian state of Haryana.

Villagers jostle to get a glimpse of the injured young boy who has just returned from the hospital.

Azmat, who only uses one name, is lying on a cot inside a small courtyard. He has a fractured rib, multiple clots in the left eye and several lacerations on his arms and stomach. But by all accounts, he is lucky to be alive.

Azmat, along with four others, was attacked by suspected cow protection vigilantes as they were transporting cattle they had purchased from Jaipur in the northern state of Rajasthan back to their dairy farm in neighbouring Haryana.

"Despite having legal documents we were pulled out on the streets, beaten by sticks and the crowd was shouting for us to be burned alive. If the police had not come and rescued us, all of us would have been dead," he told BBC Hindi. ...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-39511556
 
I worked in India for a while. Quite possibly the most intolerant country I've ever visited, they have the caste system which makes its really really hard for bright kids from some backgrounds, while giving an easy ride to idiots from another.

I'm not shocked by any thing rural India does.
 
The caste system is the most dunderheaded idea invented. It's one of the things that has really held India back.
 
Muslim man killed after being attacked by hundreds of 'cow vigilantes' in India
Cows are considered sacred in the Hindu religion.


A MUSLIM MAN has died after he was attacked by hundreds of Hindu vigilantes while transporting cows in India, police said today, amid rising tensions over the slaughter of the sacred animal.

Pehlu Khan, 55, died in hospital late on Monday, two days after a mob attacked his cattle truck on a highway in Alwar in the western state of Rajasthan.

Cows are considered sacred in Hindu-majority India, and their slaughter is illegal in many states.

In parts of northern and western India, squads of vigilantes roam highways inspecting livestock trucks for any trace of the animal.

Alwar police chief Rahul Prakash said at least six others were injured in the attack, but had now been discharged from the hospital. ...

http://www.thejournal.ie/muslim-india-cow-3324712-Apr2017/?utm_source=shortlink

Video of the incident:
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Police in India say two Muslim men have been lynched by a mob which accused them of trying to steal cows for slaughter.

The killings in the north-eastern state of Assam are the latest in a series of attacks blamed on religious tensions over the treatment of cows.

Hindus consider cows sacred and killing them is illegal in several states.

A Human Rights Watch report last week said at least 10 Muslims had been killed over the issue since May 2015.

The victims of Sunday's attack in Assam's Nagaon district have been identified as Abu Hanifa and Riyazuddin Ali, police said.

"They were chased and beaten with sticks by villagers who said the two men were trying to steal cows from their grazing field," news agency AFP quoted senior police official Debaraj Upadhyay as saying. ...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-39769172?ocid=socialflow_twitter
 
Maybe if we convince the religious that humanity is sacred then there wouldn't be quite as many murders.

As I've said before - what is it about 'thou shalt not kill' that is so difficult to understand?
 
As I've said before - what is it about 'thou shalt not kill' that is so difficult to understand?
The problem is, certain religions have a 'thou shalt not kill' commandment and then they go on to list exceptions.
Islam says it's OK to kill non-Muslims (examples below):

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."
 
God also tells his followers to kill people numerous times.
 
God also tells his followers to kill people numerous times.

Ah well - if something tells you to contradict one of the basic 10 rules, best you be sure it IS God. I have voices telling me to do things I shouldn't quite often. Fortunatly the sensible part of me says that's not the sort of thing my God is likely to ask me to do.

Three religions share the old testament in one form or another - the differentiating part in my religion is the Gospels, and no-one contemporary reported Jesus as telling anyone to kill - exactly the opposite.
 
Bilkis Bano was gang-raped and saw 14 members of her family being murdered by a Hindu mob during the 2002 anti-Muslim riots in the western Indian state of Gujarat.

Her 15-year battle for justice finally bore fruit last week, when the Bombay high court confirmed the life sentences of 11 men found guilty of rape and murder.

The court also convicted five policemen and two doctors, who were earlier cleared by the trial court, of destroying evidence.

The landmark ruling, Bilkis Bano told the BBC in Delhi on Sunday, had finally given her hope of peace.

"I always had full faith in the judiciary and I'm grateful to the Bombay high court for the order. It's a very good judgement and I'm very happy with it," she told me.

"I think the state government and the police were all complicit in the crime, because the accused were given full freedom to rape and pillage," she said.

"I feel vindicated that the court has convicted the police and the doctors too. I feel I've received justice." ...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-39843555?ocid=socialflow_twitter
 
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