lordmongrove
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A strange tale from Brazil in 1947. Never heard of this one before. Any thoughts?
A strange tale from Brazil in 1947. Never heard of this one before. Any thoughts? ...
A search suggests this is the case, so any article describing him as 'Mr. Filho' may be not very thoroughly fact-checked.Could 'Filho' in this case mean 'son' as in 'João Prestes Junior'? Or is it a proper surname?
Could 'Filho' in this case mean 'son' as in 'João Prestes Junior'? Or is it a proper surname?
It is perfectly obvious to everyone involved that the local mine nearby is entirely responsible. It was closed down after glowing orbs started frying the miners. In fact these orbs are part of the defense system that Shambalah uses to defend its transport tunnels from surface dwellers. The mine dug too close to those tunnels and had to be neutralized. Filho would not have been attacked if he hadn't been engaged in breaking into his own house. The orbs, that were on surface patrol that evening wrongly determined him to be a criminal and casually fried him. You know Shambalah's police force; they treat all surface dwellers the way US cops treat black people. Note also, that his burns are consistent with radiation damage, but there is no sign of radioactivity. This is a signature of vril/chi based weaponry. There, now everything is all explained.A strange tale from Brazil in 1947. Never heard of this one before. Any thoughts?
... Filho would not have been attacked if he hadn't been engaged in breaking into his own house. ...
It is perfectly obvious to everyone involved that the local mine nearby is entirely responsible. ...
Apparently his garments were undamaged and there was no damage to the house.This element of the (apparently) standard storyline stands out for me. HIs wife locked the house when she took the children to the town's carnival celebration. He accessed the house by climbing in through a window.
I suppose it's entirely possible he and his wife had only a single key. The bigger issue for me is knowing more about his entry through the window and whether this window-entry may have had something to do with his burns.
I like this line of inquiry EG. Had Filho gone swimming and come in contact with dangerous chemicals, as he dried off, the water holding them safely in suspension would have evaporated and caused the reaction. The wounds are in keeping with damage caused by corrosives, and thus the question becomes, which chemicals could explain what happened, and are they in keeping with those used at the mine?This possible connection occurred to me, too. He could have been exposed to any of a number of toxic / caustic substances if the waters where he'd been fishing received outflows from one or more of the local mines. Speaking of his having gone fishing that day ... I haven't seen any account of this incident that confirms he went fishing and did so at the nearby river that's always named as his intended destination. As far as I can tell, no one ever verified he did what he said he was going to do that day.
Hydrofluoric acid? He'd have had to swim in it for a while for the effects described, but even a small exposure would lead to death.I like this line of inquiry EG. Had Filho gone swimming and come in contact with dangerous chemicals, as he dried off, the water holding them safely in suspension would have evaporated and caused the reaction. The wounds are in keeping with damage caused by corrosives, and thus the question becomes, which chemicals could explain what happened, and are they in keeping with those used at the mine?
If this river was so contaminated, would he have even considered fishing in it ? It's highly unlikely there were any fish in it; and he would probably have known that.
It is half possible that it could have been an all-time-most-extreme allergic reaction. I mention this because I know someone who has a pretty severe grass allergy where their skin bleeds and flakes off. A very good reason to live in a sandy desert or a snowfield.A guy rushes into a celebratory gathering in extreme physically-evident distress, collapses, and eventually expires. This scenario is reminiscent of the opening scene in a mystery drama. The Prestes story (IMHO) remains so enigmatic because it consists of a tangible such death scene, but lacks any explanatory flashbacks or final resolution to make it substantive.
It is half possible that it could have been an all-time-most-extreme allergic reaction. I mention this because I know someone who has a pretty severe grass allergy where their skin bleeds and flakes off. A very good reason to live in a sandy desert or a snowfield.
An interesting point. Care to develop it?I don't see any firm basis for presuming all the damage to his feet occurred after he fled his house and ran to the town center.
An interesting point. Care to develop it?
Especially as somewhere it mentions he always walked bare foot so his feet would be hardened, ...
Presumably the only testimony regarding the lights is that attributed to the victim himself. If that's correct, then there is at least a slight possibility that whatever substance it was that affected him also affected his eyes, and as it inflicted damage he experienced that as flashes of light. I have only suffered impact damage to one eye (and if I'm honest I don't remember the precise visual sensation at the moment of impact) rather than chemical damage, but is it beyond the realms of possibility that there were in fact no external anomalous lights at all?The second most solid feature of this story is that it's been casually shoehorned into the UFO category, even though the only element remotely suggesting a UFO would be the intense light(s) - assuming they were aloft. Most of the other local stories of odd lights and objects don't clearly recommend themselves as UFO-related. Some seem to be more like ball lightning, orbs, demons, ghosts, or terrestrial fireballs.
... is it beyond the realms of possibility that there were in fact no external anomalous lights at all?
It just occurred to me. Ergotism shares a lot of common symptoms with our main man and the miners. I believe I read about cases of extreme medieval ergotism where people literally fell apart and their skin sloughed off. Lower doses get you hallucinations. It's worth a thought at least.IMHO - No, it's not impossible at all. Given Prestes' traumatized physiological state it wouldn't be unusual for him to have experienced transitory visual flashes or outright visual hallucinations.
The people literally falling apart there that you mention is actually a description of gangrene.It just occurred to me. Ergotism shares a lot of common symptoms with our main man and the miners. I believe I read about cases of extreme medieval ergotism where people literally fell apart and their skin sloughed off. Lower doses get you hallucinations. It's worth a thought at least.