The MMR Vaccine & Its Alleged Risks

Sorry if similar info has already been posted, this thread is quite big, so I haven't read everything. This is a link from an article from McGill University regarding discussions about mercury and aluminum being used in vaccines: https://mcgill.ca/oss/article/healt...il&utm_term=0_995459bc2b-4e941c6aac-108263887
I know that I've heard the comments from public, in general, about mercury and aluminum being a health risk in vaccines and why they won't get vaccinated. Specifically, when I worked in healthcare and the flu season came around, people used this as a reason to not get the flu vaccine. This article is good because it explains exactly what was used and for what reason.
 
brownmane said:
Sorry if similar info has already been posted, this thread is quite big, so I haven't read everything. This is a link from an article from McGill University regarding discussions about mercury and aluminum being used in vaccines: https://mcgill.ca/oss/article/healt...il&utm_term=0_995459bc2b-4e941c6aac-108263887
I know that I've heard the comments from public, in general, about mercury and aluminum being a health risk in vaccines and why they won't get vaccinated. Specifically, when I worked in healthcare and the flu season came around, people used this as a reason to not get the flu vaccine. This article is good because it explains exactly what was used and for what reason.
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Good points in there. People would be a bit shocked if they tested their backyard soil or well water, I think. It's frustrating that people get overly concerned and focused on the wrong things. Some worry about strange things and yet smoke or eat an unhealthy diet which will kill you faster and more reliably. It's hard to keep up with all the horrible hazards that affect us in our abnormally long lives, isn't it?
 
More than 140,000 people died from measles last year as the number of cases around the world surged once again, official estimates suggest.

Most of the lives cut short were children aged under five.

The situation has been described by health experts as staggering, an outrage, a tragedy and easily preventable with vaccines.

Huge progress has been made since the year 2000, but there is concern that incidence of measles is now edging up.

In 2018, the UK - along with Albania, the Czech Republic and Greece, lost their measles elimination status.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50659893
 
Tribble said:
More than 140,000 people died from measles last year as the number of cases around the world surged once again, official estimates suggest. Most of the lives cut short were children aged under five. The situation has been described by health experts as staggering, an outrage, a tragedy and easily preventable with vaccines. Huge progress has been made since the year 2000, but there is concern that incidence of measles is now edging up. In 2018, the UK - along with Albania, the Czech Republic and Greece, lost their measles elimination status.https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50659893
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When parents let their children die because they didn't get them vaccinated, they should face jail and the permanent loss of custodial rights to their other children. Vaccination is a very cheap superpower.
 
Samoa warned it will not tolerate anti-vaccine misinformation on Friday, after a prominent activist was arrested for opposing a mass immunisation drive launched to contain a deadly measles epidemic in the Pacific nation.
At least 63 people, most of them children, have died since the outbreak began in mid-October and the country on Friday entered a second day of lockdown as it administers compulsory vaccinations in a desperate bid to stop the virus.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...nisation-drive-continues-191206010948814.html
 
Frideswide said:
Yes, that's what I mean.

Putting the Can't-Be-Vaccinated (at this time) at risk of the diseases is one of the many reasons I despise the antivax cult.
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To be honest, I can't help thinking that if they want their own kids to die that's on them. Nothing we can do to save them. It's the risk to other people that's the problem.
 
Measles has been around for a long time. (If this fits in better somewhere else then perhaps a kind mod will move it.)

BERLIN—On 3 June 1912, a 2-year-old girl at the Charité University Hospital here died of pneumonia following a measles infection. The next day, doctors took out her lungs, fixed them in formalin, and added them to a collection of anatomical specimens started by Rudolf Virchow, the "father of pathology." There they languished for more than 100 years—until Sebastien Calvignac-Spencer, an evolutionary biologist at the Robert Koch Institute, came across them in the basement of Berlin's Museum of Medical History.

Calvignac-Spencer and his team took a sample from the lungs, isolated RNA from it, and subsequently pieced together what is the oldest known genome of the measles virus. Its sequence helped them shed light on a much earlier period in measles' history. In a study posted to the preprint server bioRxiv today, the team concludes that the virus may have entered the human population as early as the fourth century B.C.E., rather than in medieval times, as previous research had suggested.

The work is technically brilliant, says evolutionary biologist Mike Worobey of the University of Arizona: "Just being able to get the measles virus out of these old, wet specimens. That sets the stage for all sorts of exciting work." Monica Green, a historian of infectious diseases at Arizona State University, Tempe, calls the sequencing "very impressive" as well but says the study lacks enough data points to "provide decisive answers" about measles' emergence. The authors agree. They hope sequences from antiquity, preserved in naturally mummified or frozen bodies, may one day do so.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/201...-large-cities-rose-1500-years-earlier-thought
 
Interesting letter in the latest FT from a vet who says now certain people are refusing to vaccinate their pets, leading to many kittens disfigured, blind or simply dead. What exactly do they think they're saving the animals from?!
 
chickenpox parties are back.

The owner of a children's indoor activity centre has said a secret plan to arrange a "chickenpox party" at her venue is "shocking and selfish".

Jane Coulson, the owner of Play World in Gainsborough, said she received a tip-off from a "concerned mother" about a party that would encourage the spread of the virus between children.

Parents visiting the play centre with their young children have described the plan as "dangerous" and "irresponsible".

The NHS advises people with chickenpox not to go near newborn babies, anyone who is pregnant, or anyone with a weakened immune system, as chickenpox can be particularly dangerous for them.

Ms Coulson said she was especially worried because children with lowered immune systems often visit the play venue.

"Someone deliberately bringing in something like chickenpox is very selfish," she said. "If you want to have a chickenpox party, have it in your own home. I was surprised, I thought people would have common sense. If your child is ill, don't bring them to a place like this."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjevyynnqj8o
 
I enjoy a Facebook antivaxer-mocking page. Posters show screenshots of 'alternative' lunacy such as disastrous treatments with Black Salve.

Here's some alarmingly self-defeating antivax AI with the more amusing sections picked out. :chuckle:
 

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Anti-vax parents say ‘measles wasn’t that bad’ after daughter dies in outbreak

The mum and dad of a six-year-old girl who died from measles have no regrets about refusing to give their children the MMR vaccine.

Kaylee, the young daughter of the Texan parents, became the first measles death in the US for a decade on February 26.

Despite their heartbreak, the couple insisted measles ‘is good for the body’ and suggested parents shouldn’t give their children the vaccine because the disease ‘wasn’t that bad.’

The parents, who belong to a Mennonite community in west Texas, spoke with Children’s Health Defense (CHD), an anti-vaccine group founded by controversial US health chief Robert F Kennedy Jr.

https://apple.news/A49iFZjtlTX65CzWUUEvo8Q
 
Tempest63 said:
Anti-vax parents say ‘measles wasn’t that bad’ after daughter dies in outbreak

The mum and dad of a six-year-old girl who died from measles have no regrets about refusing to give their children the MMR vaccine.

Kaylee, the young daughter of the Texan parents, became the first measles death in the US for a decade on February 26.

Despite their heartbreak, the couple insisted measles ‘is good for the body’ and suggested parents shouldn’t give their children the vaccine because the disease ‘wasn’t that bad.’

The parents, who belong to a Mennonite community in west Texas, spoke with Children’s Health Defense (CHD), an anti-vaccine group founded by controversial US health chief Robert F Kennedy Jr.

https://apple.news/A49iFZjtlTX65CzWUUEvo8Q
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I'd like to visit those parents with a roughly-snapped pickaxe handle.
 
U.S. Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr has shifted his stance on the US measles outbreak, now calling it "serious" after previously describing it as "not unusual".

The outbreak has sickened over 140 children in western Texas, while several other states also are battling cases.

RFK Jr changes stance on measles outbreak as virus spreads https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99n18zlzg3o
 

Salford mum's jab plea after daughter's measles death​

The mother of a girl who died of complications from having measles as a baby has urged parents to have their children vaccinated.

Renae Archer, from Salford, was too young for the jab when she caught the infection at five months old.

She died aged 10 in 2023, and her mother Rebecca believes Renae might not have caught it if more people had inoculated their children.

There had been outbreaks of measles across the UK at the time Renae caught the virus, with about 1000 suspected cases in Greater Manchester.

Just under 400 cases were confirmed in laboratory tests, according to research available from the UK Health Security Agency.

Most confirmed and probable cases occurred in children under vaccination age, and in children aged between 10 and 19.

There had been "low vaccine uptake" in the 10 to 19 cohort because of "unfounded alleged links between the MMR vaccine and autism", according to the research.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-68628794
 
Tempest63 said:
Anti-vax parents say ‘measles wasn’t that bad’ after daughter dies in outbreak

The mum and dad of a six-year-old girl who died from measles have no regrets about refusing to give their children the MMR vaccine.

Kaylee, the young daughter of the Texan parents, became the first measles death in the US for a decade on February 26.

Despite their heartbreak, the couple insisted measles ‘is good for the body’ and suggested parents shouldn’t give their children the vaccine because the disease ‘wasn’t that bad.’

The parents, who belong to a Mennonite community in west Texas, spoke with Children’s Health Defense (CHD), an anti-vaccine group founded by controversial US health chief Robert F Kennedy Jr.

https://apple.news/A49iFZjtlTX65CzWUUEvo8Q
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It is called "in a state of denial". They have to believe this, or admit that their inaction killed their child.
 
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