• Server Outage Announcement

    Hello, Everyone.
    We will be installing an update to XenForo (the forums software), and doing some server maintenance.
    Consequently, the forums will be unavailable from about 12 - 2 MDT / 2 - 4 EDT / 6 - 8 GMT on Sunday 9th May 2021.

The Music Thread

Brown_Forever

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Sep 3, 2005
Messages
175
Reaction score
6
Points
34
Which reminds me, I must finally get around to buying Attack of the Grey Lantern one of these days - top album.

Whatever happened to Mansun?

PB (not listening to anything at the moment 'cos he's in work)
 

TheQuixote

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Sep 25, 2003
Messages
3,293
Reaction score
38
Points
69
Sadly they are no more but I think some of the band members are now off doing individual projects. They released a box set last year which I still need to get around to tracking down but I agree AotGL is a great album as is Six (Legacy and Being a Girl are great tracks) but Little Kix was a little bit of a let down.

Currently listening to Doves- Snowden
 

sunsplash1

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Jan 9, 2004
Messages
1,314
Reaction score
16
Points
54
Cavynaut said:
At the moment I'm listening to anything by Pink Fairies, The Pretty Things and early Hawkwind.

Seems like that entire hippy/early punk crossover is about the only genre that hasn't been mined to buggery in the last few years by spotty media students.

Hmmm....at the tender age of 48, should I put an advert in the local instrument shop and blow the cobwebs off the strat.....? :lol:
HawkwinD Yes, unsung, unheralded and largely unknown. Sad really...

Dust off that Strat, Sir. And play!

:D
 

gridban

Devoted Cultist
Joined
Mar 7, 2002
Messages
109
Reaction score
26
Points
59
nothing right now 'cos I'm at work, but last night listened to/watched the Flaming Lips "V.O.I.D." dvd, fabulous! :D
 

GNC

King-Sized Canary
Joined
Aug 25, 2001
Messages
32,108
Reaction score
19,437
Points
309
Sandie Shaw - the "Reviewing the Situation" album. Fab and groovy, and yes, that is the song from the musical Oliver! as the title track. Her version of "Sympathy for the Devil" has to be heard to be believed.
 

Cavynaut

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Apr 10, 2003
Messages
2,325
Reaction score
674
Points
144
johnnyboy1968 said:
I love the Who too (in fact, they're probabably my favourite band) but I still think that Sorrow outdoes Tommy, musically and conceptually!
Couldn't agree more. I first heard S.F.Sorrow when I bought it and Parachute as a double in the late 70's. Brilliant stuff. Completely outdoes Tommy.

Funny thing is, I'd almost forgotten about it until a friend on another forum started asking me to recommend some concept albums. I thought of Tommy first and then S.F.Sorrow sprang to the forefront of my head. I did a quick google, found it on CD, ordered it and am currently salivating with the prospect of listening to 'Old Man Going' and 'Loneliest Person' once again. I've got it on vinyl, still, but no deck. :cry:
 

Cavynaut

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Apr 10, 2003
Messages
2,325
Reaction score
674
Points
144
sunsplash1 said:
HawkwinD Yes, unsung, unheralded and largely unknown. Sad really...

Dust off that Strat, Sir. And play!

:D
I sincerely believe that without the Hawks there would never have been the punk revolution. Television, the Dolls notwithstanding, I think that Hawkwind (and the Fairies) were a vital part of the British punk movement. Hell, anyone with a guitar in Britain in the early '70's could handle 'Brainstorm'. And nothing to be ashamed off either.
 

sunsplash1

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Jan 9, 2004
Messages
1,314
Reaction score
16
Points
54
My life quest (one of many) is to have a CD of ' Astounding sounds, amazing musc'. Next to The clash's 'Sandanista' that would have to be a favourite album...
8)
 

Brown_Forever

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Sep 3, 2005
Messages
175
Reaction score
6
Points
34
At present I am listening to 'Sumo' by Australia's best-kept secret - the should-have-been-fucking-massive SuperJesus.

PB
 

TheQuixote

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Sep 25, 2003
Messages
3,293
Reaction score
38
Points
69
Trying to drown out the noise of fireworks... so I'm listening to U2- Lemon and I'll be playing The Distillers afterwards.
 

SoundDust

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Mar 17, 2002
Messages
1,677
Reaction score
21
Points
69
The Fall - Fall Heads Roll
The Pastels - Truckload of Trouble
Tom 7 - Fake Mars
 

luvpixie

Junior Acolyte
Joined
Apr 23, 2005
Messages
72
Reaction score
120
Points
64
It was all this nostalgia that made me do it..........ooooooh!
I just listened to Dark side of the Moon.
Still grabs me after all these years....... :D
 

Cavynaut

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Apr 10, 2003
Messages
2,325
Reaction score
674
Points
144
johnnyboy1968 said:
Ah, you're a man after my own heart, Cavy!
Don't suppose you're an Arthur Brown/ Kingdom Come fan as well by any chance are you?

Thing is, despite being on the internet since the mid 90's, I've only just got around to searching out old albums. I only just got a credit card a few weeks ago....well, my wife did, (old hippie credentials 8) ), so I've been looking to replace all my old vinyl with this new fangled CD stuff. I've been amazed at what's available! I really didn't think it would be possible to get Galactic Zoo Dossier, Kingdom Come and Journey, but I can!!! Here's to sitting around barefoot in a crappy bedsit with Arthur blasting out of the speakers for the next few months! I just hope that my wife is okay about me ripping the carpet up off the floor...authenticity is important!
 

johnnyboy1968

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Aug 15, 2001
Messages
268
Reaction score
26
Points
49
Cavynaut said:
Don't suppose you're an Arthur Brown/ Kingdom Come fan as well by any chance are you?
Alas, I've only got the first Crazy World Of... album, plus a very scratched 7" single of Fire. He's also on the Pretty Things' live from Abbey Road Resurrection CD in the capacity of narrator, reading Phil May's original short story in between the songs from SF Sorrow. Works very well, actually! I can remember being mildly scared of him when I was a kid in the early 1970s! The Top Of The Pops Fire clip turned up on some TV show or other, and I found all the face paint and jerky dancing sinister! My Dad said to my Mum "Ooh, remember him with flames on his head?" It's a great performance though - he looks like some mad druid or celtic warrior, and it probably had Hermans Hermits and Englebert fans spitting their tea all over the place back in '68!

I've been looking to replace all my old vinyl with this new fangled CD stuff.
I've been doing the exact opposite - for the last eight years or so I've been a passionate collector of old vinyl albums and singles. There's just something about them as artefacts which really appeals to me. All those lovely sleeve designs at the size they were designed to be perused, gatefolds, inner sleeves with the lyrics printed at a reasonable size, extras and inserts like posters, coloured vinyl... it's an addiction! I'll even get new stuff on vinyl sometimes - Brian Wilson's Smile just seemed to suit the format somehow, and it's a very beautiful, heavyweight thing (plus, it's got four additional tracks which aren't on the CD!) Sound quality isn't really an issue either IMO, and in some cases a decent original pressing can knock spots off a badly remastered CD. The Beatles' White Album is a case in point - the Fabs' back catalogue was put on CD relatively early on, and that album more than most sounds incredibly thin and weedy in comparison, even on my crappy Aiwa midi system! I do worry sometimes though that the sheer amount of vinyl I've got is taking over my life...



Ahem [removes anorak]... This weekend, I have been grooving to the sounds of:

Deep Purple - Burn - I'm not all that familiar with the Mk 3 Purple stuff, so this was a good buy (from Tor Records of Glastonbury, a good second-hand vinyl emporium, much to the detriment of my bank balance.) The title track in particular is a good old rousing rampage, and the vocal interplay between Coverdale and Hughes adds another aspect to the band. Think I'll try Stormbringer next week!

Husker Du - Warehouse : Songs And Stories - Despite me routinely going on to anyone within earshot about this being one of the best album of the 1980s, I suddenly realised that it's been a good five years since I actually listened to it! A bit like reaquainting oneself with an old friend then, and it hasn't caused me to change my assessment. One of the very few double albums without any filler or duff tracks, and the sort of album which requires listening to from beginning to end. Musically, there's everything from psych-tinged power pop to rockabilly, all shot through with Bob Mould's enormously exciting outbursts of guitar white noise. He may not have been the most "conventionally" talented guitarist of the era, but no one comes close to his ability to make one Gibson Flying V sound like a hundred of the things raging away...

Screaming Trees - Dust - One of my fave "lost" bands, and a very underrated album. It builds on their early garage punk stuff, adds a sparkling psychedelic sheen, a dose of spooky Americana, and, if there was any justice, should have made them massive. Bestest bits: Dying Days starting off as a croaky acoustic dustbowl ballad and suddenly switching to full-on assault mode, and Witness, which has a notably violent guitar solo with much abuse of the wha-wha pedal. Singer Mark Lanegan's since released a few decent solo albums, as well as being one of Queens Of The Stone Age's shifting cast of supporting characters, but I reckon all concerned would have a job to top this one!

Half Man Half Biscuit - Achtung Bono - Latest album from the only band to have me squirting coffee out of my nose with glee on a regular basis. It's their tenth, which has surprised some people I know ("bloody hell, are they still going?) and they're still on good form. Sample lyrics include "Gouranga, gouranga, yes, I will be happy / as soon as you've been arrested for defacing the bridge" and "Is your child hyperactive / or is he just a twat?" Long may Nigel Blackwell champion the backwaters and eccentrics of little-known corners of Britain, and long may he rail against the boring blandness and stifling middle class attitudes of much of our society - the man's a national treasure!
 

TheQuixote

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Sep 25, 2003
Messages
3,293
Reaction score
38
Points
69
I saw Mark Lanegan live doing his solo stuff a few years back, he's got a damn good voice but unfortunately as soon as his set started, the hall practically cleared- it was embarrassing.

He was supported by Masters of Reality, a great band, who he sometimes provides vocals for too but most of the folk were only there to see Josh Homme who was gigging with MoR at the time. :(
 

gerardwilkie

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Oct 17, 2001
Messages
607
Reaction score
40
Points
49
I've been to a few gigs that must have been embarrassing for the performer - one that sticks in mind was Edwyn Collins at the Reading Festival (1990 I think) . He got beat up on stage by an angry crowd member .Felt real sorry for him .

Another time was when I saw Johnny Thunders do part of his set with a broken PA (but he was so far gone that he didn't realize) .

I think the worst was a dodgy Scouse band called The End. They were supporting Flowered Up at the Freetown in Stoke . They were terrible (it looked like it was their first public performance) , and the audience turned nasty . There were instruments flying all around the place and what started as a minor scuffle turned into a free for all between band and audience.
 

Mal_Adjusted

Justified & Ancient
Joined
Aug 6, 2003
Messages
2,262
Reaction score
33
Points
69
greets

bloc party "silent alarm"

definitely a grower

mal

(don't talk to me about vinyl - have couple of hundred 12" singles from 1980s (mainly) - worthless and too much hassle to sort through to play any.)
 

DunkyJ1

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Sep 30, 2005
Messages
35
Reaction score
4
Points
24
Talking of sad acts, I went to see a gig in a pub in Ashton-under-lyne near Manchester about 4 years ago. It was a metallica tribute band.Most people just stood around looking in wonder at the lead singer because he kept forgeting the words! Example " Master of puppets der der der de deeer twisting your mind and smashing derdeeer" :? I must admit he deserved a medal for dodging all those bottles thrown on stage.
 

Yithian

Parish Watch
Staff member
Joined
Oct 29, 2002
Messages
32,850
Reaction score
40,849
Points
309
Location
East of Suez
Kyuss. Yeah.
 

Mal_Adjusted

Justified & Ancient
Joined
Aug 6, 2003
Messages
2,262
Reaction score
33
Points
69
greets

a visit to the vinyl vaults has resulted in the following items being played:

Blood and Roses - "Enough is never enough" (hugely disappointing first (and only?) album

Blyth Power "Wicked women, wicked men and wicket keepers" (brill)

The Books "Expertise" (know nothing about them but like the album even if the lyrics sound a bit - well - dodgy

<--------the name's over there
 

Cavynaut

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Apr 10, 2003
Messages
2,325
Reaction score
674
Points
144
Got my CD of 'S.F.Sorrow' by The Pretty Things this morning. It ain't been out of the CD drawer yet. It must be about 15 years since I last heard it, and it's even better than I remember! :D
 

James_H

And I like to roam the land
Joined
May 18, 2002
Messages
7,735
Reaction score
6,400
Points
309
Clancy Brothers :)
 

Yithian

Parish Watch
Staff member
Joined
Oct 29, 2002
Messages
32,850
Reaction score
40,849
Points
309
Location
East of Suez
The Most Evil Concept Ever
by Merrick

Celebrities endorsing products has been around for as long as mass media advertising industry. We expected the Spice Girls to have sold us everything from mopeds to lollipops, but increasingly there is something else; artists of real worth with something to say, artists of vision and meaning, artists you could really believe in allowing their work to be used.

Town Called Malice, The Jam's sharp portrait of poverty and desperation in Thatcher's Britain has been recently selling cars. The Cure - also car salesmen with In Between Days - let Hewlett Packard plunder their magnum opus of heartbreak and isolation Disintegration in order to sell printers.

Some more obscure artists may like the fact that having their music used in ads will increase sales, but who's buying? People who buy ad-music, people less likely to have music as something that really speaks to them. It takes the depth of the music and changes it to breadth.

The current TV ads for Orange mobile phone use Brian Eno's Music For Airports as the soundtrack. Eno has always been an artist of real integrity, an intelligent and honourable man, never been one to chase the money. This, as he himself has said, is precisely why he's made such interesting and popular records. He's involved with many thoughtful projects, such as the Long Now Foundation, dedicated to encouraging a wiser future, and this year has, become more politically active than ever before. So why he chosen to take the corporate shilling to promote sales of unsustainable and environmentally destructive consumer goods?

Eno does not need the money. Aside of being the producer on numerous U2, David Bowie and Talking Heads albums, he co-wrote Heroes with Bowie and so gets half the writer's royalty. That in itself is - to use Noddy Holder's phrase for writing Merry Xmas Everybody - a pension plan.

Marcella Detroit from Shakespear's Sister has explained quite how much money we're talking about. When she was known as Marcia Levy, she was Eric Clapton's backing singer, and co-wrote Lay Down Sally with him. Just half the writer's royalty for that paid for a big house in Malibu, a boat and enough money for her and her husband to live there comfortably. Fuck knows what kind of money Layla and Wonderful Tonight must generate.

But anyway, that being the case we can imagine what the perennial global radio classic Heroes brings to Eno.

Some artists aren't fortunate enough to control their back catalogue and must suffer people abusing their music to advertise products, usually with the extra injustice of the raw deal that deprived them of control also depriving them of a decent royalty.

But with Brain Eno it surely was his choice, as he undoubtedly owns all the rights to the piece. He's the sole composer and performer, and it was released on EG Editions, his own label. If any established label with an eye for commercial success at the time were in possession of such an item as a bargepole, they wouldn't have been using it to touch Music For Airports.

We can't believe he loves Orange so much that he really wants them to use his music. He, already a millionaire with enough guaranteed future income to ensure he and his family will never need a proper job, is plainly just doing it for the money. He is now just another whore at the capitalist gang-bang.

As U2's manager Paul McGuinness said in criticism of pop stars hawking Pepsi, what is the point of being Michael Jackson if all you've worked on and achieved is just a marketing tool for selling consumer items?

This, of course, was in the days before U2 caved in took the corporate shilling from Apple, doing iPod TV ads, appearing at iPod promotional events and even having a special U2 edition iPod.

It's a fair guess U2 would offer the same defence as Dire Straits gave in the mid 1980s when they promoted Philips CD players: it's to do with promoting a new format.

But Dire Straits and U2 didn't promote the format, they just promoted one manufacturer's player of the format. And do we think there wasn't any money for them from Apple, money negotiated to its maximum by U2's people?

When I was in a band, we used to play and organise benefit gigs with a lot of bands on the bill. Anyone who asked for more than expenses was told where to get off; if you want to profit from it, you don't believe in it enough as a cause. U2 could quite easily promote the format if they believe in it so much without recourse to plugging one manufacturer.

Henry Rollins justified advertising Gap clothing by saying that the money had gone towards publishing books that would never have been published otherwise, allowing creative expression to flourish. As talent is not bounded by class or nationality, I'm sure there are sweatshop workers who'd like their creative expression to flourish, but working sixteen hour days seven days a week doesn't give them chance. Their conditions aren't going to change as Gap's hand is strengthened - and thereby the anti-sweatshop movement weakened - thanks to Rollins' advertising.

But wouldn't these pressures get to everyone? Could anyone really say no to such easy money?

Yes, they could. When Jim Morrison was alive, The Doors were asked to sell Light My Fire to an ad for Buick cars. Jim was away, the other three said yes. When Jim found out he said he'd smash a Buick on stage at every concert if the ad went ahead. Buick swiftly pulled out.

The Doors credited all their songwriting to the four of them equally, and as such all have to agree on licensing their music. After the Buick debacle, a contract was drawn up making that fact unassailable.

But these days doesn't everyone cave in? Nope. Doors drummer John Densmore was once, against his better judgement, talked into letting Pirelli tyres use Riders On The Storm. Having seen the result, he's held out against every subsequent offer. Apple offering $4m? Cadillac SUVs offering $15m? He's told them to fuck off.

For the latter, Led Zeppelin stepped in to bend over instead and Cadillacs are now being sold to a soundtrack of Led Zep IV's Rock n Roll.

Densmore explained his steadfastness;

"People lost their virginity to this music, got high for the first time to this music. I've had people say kids died in Vietnam listening to this music, other people say they know someone who didn't commit suicide because of this music... On stage, when we played these songs, they felt mysterious and magic. That's not for rent."

"Everyone wanted him to do it," said John Branca, an attorney who worked on the Cadillac proposal. "I told him that, really, people don't frown on this anymore. It's considered a branding exercise for the music. He told me he just couldn't sell a song to a company that was polluting the world.

"I shook my head," Branca said, "but, hey, you have to respect that. How many of your principles would you reconsider when people start talking millions of dollars?"

You have to ask that question, especially if you're an artist with a lot to say but not a lot of money.

Top marks in the artist integrity stakes go to Julian Cope. In the early 1990s he had a spiritual awakening and started recording the eco-conscious Peggy Suicide album. Almost as if to test the strength of his convictions, he got his first offers of ad-music at that time.

TDK offered a hefty sum for using Beautiful Love to advertise blank tapes. That's not so bad, it's kind of music related, right? That was the excuse Dire Straits gave for taking the Philips CD money. Even The Clash said they sold Should I Stay Or Should I Go to Levi's cos Levi's were kind of cool and if a margarine that had wanted it they'd probably have turned it down. Paul McCartney had just taken TDK money for his tour sponsorship and nobody complained (admittedly, they were too busy decrying his bigger sponsorship from Barclaycard). But Cope said no.

Then Levi's came in with a Really Big Offer, wanting to use East Easy Rider for a global campaign.

It must surely have been tempting. He had clearly started on a commercial decline. He had also just started a family. There was no guarantee that he wouldn't be working in an office or stacking shelves in a supermarket in five years time. He had found so much to say, and a big chunk of money would give him the chance to keep saying it.

He dithered for three days, then declined.

In doing so, he not only preserved the dignity and credibility of his work, but he sets the bar high for the rest of us. He makes it clear what a fucking sell-out people like Eno are, and he dares the rest of us to maintain our standards.

The use of Music For Airports on the Orange ad has soiled a piece of music that really meant something to its listeners. Taking the ad money doesn't just make people lose faith in artists they love. There's a flipside to it; it can discourage the new listener. I've had precisely this experience just recently.

Claire Fauset is a performance poet of such talent and power that she commonly has audience members in tears. When I first went to her blog, there was a link saying simply 'God'. I had to click it. It took me to the site of Taylor Mali.

I'm largely unfamiliar with slam poetry, but Claire and all others I know of who are involved talk of Mali in these awed, untouchable tones. He wins national poetry slams in America year after year.

Not knowing much about him, my first click was naturally enough to the biog page. It told me how he makes his living these days as a voiceover artist, and was the voice of Burger King.

What? A poet of such passion, honesty, idealism and clear vision as Claire Fauset is in awe of a Burger King voiceover guy? Not just that, but one who is so proud of it that he believes it warrants a mention given a few short paragraphs to describe himself?

Despite Mali's enormous talent and unarguable prowess as a poet and performer, what does it mean if he willingly dresses himself in puppet strings? How can we believe anything he ever says? Not only will he say anything he's paid to say with just as much conviction as he delivers his poetry, but what if he had a point to make that conflicted with the interests of his corporate paymasters? Would you trust him to speak up?

Trust is the real issue here. His voice is not trustworthy. When he so readily says things he doesn't believe, who's to say what parts of what he says can be trusted?

Mali's poems talk of his dayjob as a teacher, proudly declaring

So I finally taught somebody something,
namely, how to change her mind.
And learned in the process that if I ever change the world
it's going to be one eighth grader at a time

Then he goes out, one entire nation of kids at a time, and changes their minds. Any work he may have done about getting people to think for themselves or to sharpen their intelligence is undone millions of times over as he makes them buy junk food, stuff that - as we've seen in Supersize Me - literally makes its consumers stupid.

He talks of how, when challenged by a lawyer to say what he makes, he replies that he 'makes a difference'. He certainly does. He makes people buy things they don't want by lying to them.

Oh, but surely he doesn't make them buy things. They have a choice, don't they?

Burger King, and Mali's other employers, know they will sell a lot more of their product if he does the voiceover. If that were not the case, they would not employ him in the first place. His powers of persuasion, honed on the from-the-heart slam poet stage, are very strong. He does indeed make the audience buy the products he's selling.

He is, his biog says, a 'voiceover artist'. What is the art in 'voiceover artist'? It's the art of sounding enthused, authoritative, knowing, wise, cool or passionate about something when you're really not. It is the art of lying. Not lying for any greater good, but lying to people so they give your paymaster their money and you get a tiny cut of the take.

He says you have to 'speak with authority', but what does it mean if that power and conviction is the same voice that he uses to sell us superfluous consumer goods that we don't need to enrich people we don't like?

Someone who says whatever the corporation pays them to is no longer an artist, they are a billboard. Whatever is paid to be pasted up is what goes up, they have abdicated their believability. The real origin of what they say is not in their heart, but in the advertising executives offices.

Mali does a poem addressing his voiceover work. It is a clever ratatat collage of snippets but it offers no explanation of why he does it, or even much meaning beyond 'I do this because I can'.

Taking the easy money of doing adverts is symptomatic of a deeper malaise in an established artist. By surrendering to the pressure to become just another brand, just a saleable commodity, or - less even than that - a mere sales tool for vacuous or actively destructive commodities, they tell us a lot about themselves. They tell us their work is not paramount to them any longer; their view of the original reasons for doing their work has become obscured; their conscience is gagged; they don't mean enough to themselves any more. That being so, how can they mean anything to us?

Bill Hicks described marketing and advertising as 'the most evil concept ever'. Surely an exaggeration? What about war, torture, Chris De Burgh? But with those at least there's a purpose of belief and commitment, however misguided; marketing and advertising are all about lying by inference, by association or just plain outright.

It uses vast resources and hires some of the best creative minds alive in order to make people misunderstand themselves and the world around them, to discourage and thwart critical thinking. Advertising exists to make us feel more alienated, and make us pay for that feeling. Its sole intended purpose is to deceive, its primary effect is to make people feel worse by promoting a deep spiritual emptiness.

It works by divining our deepest desires and then saying they will be realised if we only buy the product being advertised. Then we buy the product, find our deepest desires haven't come to pass and feel a deeper yearning, a great deflation and further removed from what we were hoping for in the first place. In the meantime, we've also got poorer as the advertiser scuttles off laughing to the bank with our money.

We end up trapped in jobs that mean nothing to us, led away from things that would enliven and unify us by false promises that, once they are seen through, make us even more empty and hopeless. These things combine to desensitise us, to make us feel less connection, have less time to care, to make us more prone to all those other things - such as war, torture or Chris de Burgh - that we might suggest as the more evil concept.

The current IKEA campaign features a happy nuclear family, going for smiling walks in autumn woodland, giggling on a summer lawn, and a young couple browsing a bookstall somewhere that looks like Victoria Embankment or perhaps by the Seine. 'Welcome to life outside work' is the caption. Using a tactic previously employed by Dove soap's 'campaign for real beauty' ads, it's presented not as an advert for consumer goods but as a campaign for something socially beneficial, even going so far as to have the internet domain, www.lifeoutsidework.co.uk.

IKEA have found that people resent their jobs - unsurprising as most people spend most of their waking hours at, going to or coming from work that is so crap they're only doing it for the money.

So, the idea is that if you buy an IKEA kitchen it will cost less than other kitchens, and with the resulting saving you can afford to take a cut in your working hours. The message is 'spend money and you will need to earn less'.

The saving in getting your kitchen from IKEA instead of somewhere else is not going to be so great as to lead to a large reduction in hours. My advice is to do as I have; make the largest saving by not buying a new kitchen at all, and don't think there's a way of spending money in order to not spend money.

IKEA's oxymoronic pitch is pretending to offer freedom, whereas they are actually offering greater slavery. Which is one of the central tenets of the advertising age, as George Orwell foresaw.

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

http://www.headheritage.co.uk/uknow/fea ... .php?id=67
 

GNC

King-Sized Canary
Joined
Aug 25, 2001
Messages
32,108
Reaction score
19,437
Points
309
Scott Walker: "Scott". Ooh, the melodrama! And he means every word!
 

Cavynaut

Gone But Not Forgotten
(ACCOUNT RETIRED)
Joined
Apr 10, 2003
Messages
2,325
Reaction score
674
Points
144
I'm quite getting into this online music buying now. Been searching for The Long Ryders and Green on Red, but there doesn't seem to be much available apart from one or two albums and lots of 'Best ofs'. :cry:

Which is a big shame. Those two bands , IMHO, were the best thing to come out of America in the early 80's, my beloved R.E.M included.
 

Yithian

Parish Watch
Staff member
Joined
Oct 29, 2002
Messages
32,850
Reaction score
40,849
Points
309
Location
East of Suez
Autechre Peel Sessions II

*Strokes Imaginary Beard And Checks Asprin Supply For Later*
 

Yithian

Parish Watch
Staff member
Joined
Oct 29, 2002
Messages
32,850
Reaction score
40,849
Points
309
Location
East of Suez
I found a batch of Rachel's albums (Handwriting, Selenography, The Sea and Bells) that had been sent to me by a friend some time ago and i rate them very highy. Romantic, swirling... Classical, but not...

In a fit of whimsy i've just ordered a copy of Micheal Nyman's sountrack to the Peter Greenaway film Drowning by Numbers. Its a long-standing favourite of mine and Nyman's music is an influence on Rachel's.

I recommend all this music and the film to curious spirits everywhere.
 
Top