The Navajo Skinwalker & 'Skinwalker Ranch'

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I have a trial VPN and even then, I find that, for example, a streaming service that I subscribe to, still limits my viewing. This, I suspect is because of my account info, though I'm not sure.

Edited to add: I quickly just changed my VPN, and this one in particular, does come up for me. I'll have to watch later:)
 
dr wu said:
Highly unlikely imho that it was a hoax or planted by anyone. More likely to be something Bigelow's group left there; one of Taylor's experts said in early seasons it almost looks like some one in the past dynamited or moved boulders around in that area of the mesa.
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I did come across a bit of useful info yesterday when searching for further information online, and found that one the previous people in the group who had been on site when Bigelow was there, had stated later that he said that he remembers that the cave was not covered up, so I presume that it must have either been filled-in intentionally by earth-movers, (by human means) or caused by a natural rock fall/or tremor - as they did experience one on-site as I recall.
I suppose they could also have covered over the entrance/s to make sure to keep everything out, rather than in, too? Although I imagine it wouldn't be such a big ask - to ask Bigelow himself what state the Mesa was in when he took it over, as it might have been filled-in a long-long time ago?
 
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For those who can get the most recent episode, we find visitor Jay Stratton who coined the term UAP and once chief investigator of UAPs for the government tells about his team working for Bigelow 10 years ago.

Jay claims they dealt with ghostly figures, extreme temperature changes, and mind tricks while on Skinwalker Ranch.

The game camera in the south property capture a large metallic orb on the ground in the daytime.

I assume this is photo proof that UAPs are real and exists.

Then Brandon Fugal introduced his new program Beyond Skinwalker Ranch where his traveling team goes to Sedona, Arizona where there is even a more weirder ranch called Bradshaw Ranch.

Fugal’s team will travel to different locations.
 
There is a huge void be between what the government is telling the public such as insufficient data and what is happening on Skinwalker Ranch.

This latest episode has the two people, Travis and Stratton, who were responsible for establishing the UFO Office for the Pentagon talking about the UAPs over the ranch, and then a game camera takes a photo of a huge metallic orb sitting on the ground during midday.

You can understand my frustration.
 
a game camera takes a photo of a huge metallic orb sitting on the ground during midday.
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Could some helpful person post the photo of the metallic orb? I had a look online & couldn’t find it.
 
I am not a computer person, but if someone wants to try to find the orb on the ground it is season 4, episode 7.
 
This is probably it. I have no convincing explanation for such an object, although there are a few that spring to mind; unfortunately, they all involve some sort of deception.
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Eburacum thanks for the photo.

I got the impression that this photo took everyone on the show by surprise because the south field has always been very quiet.
 
charliebrown said:
Then Brandon Fugal introduced his new program Beyond Skinwalker Ranch where his traveling team goes to Sedona, Arizona where there is even a more weirder ranch called Bradshaw Ranch.

Fugal’s team will travel to different locations.
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Why, when supposedly the answers at Skinwalker are just around the corner?

The cynic in me would say that Fugal thinks he has found a more lucrative income stream.
 
Carl Grove said:
History have started to issue episodes of series 3, free to download:


The illustration is a bit crazy though!
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I watched one episode. I'm not really into UAPs so only follow peripherally. This one, because of other claims (cattle mutilations) I know slightly more about some details, but not of the current investigation.

The amount of bafflegab* makes it difficult to make out what they are really interested in and why. Or to understand what the equipment being used measures.

Maybe I an expecting too much of a tv show. But I can find many short DIY vids on YT that explain the use of tools and measurements that I have no idea of how to use, and I can understand the hows and whys in a few short minutes.

The reactions and subsequent slack jawed, wide eyed expressions from, particularly, the experts remind me greatly of all of the ghost hunter shows. Especially the one shot of all of them gathering at a board table and the one expert interrupting the conflab by running into the room to shout "come, you gotta see this" and the entire group running out to see the apparently unusual find and all stand there with the above described expressions. I couldn't stop my eye roll.

The owner, himself, I don't care if he has this expression because, like the rest of us, he hasn't got a clue as to what the equipment or experiments are supposed to show. Edited: I forgot to add the governor as well, though his involvement makes no sense.

But I do question, if this is for entertainment of the commoners, why these things cannot be better explained to help with understanding the findings that may or may not be valid.

*bafflegab - words and phrasing used that sound professional and contain a lot of jargon that regular people can't piece together to figure out if what is being said actually makes sense. Often used to impress said unknowledgeable people without actually imparting any knowledge or better understanding to said people.:)
 
It is true Skinwalker Ranch and The Curse of Oak Island are “ cash cows “ for the History Channel being so popular.

Fugal starting a new show means more money for him .

I agree these are very heavily scripted, but I really believe that it is good for helping the path of the truth about UFOs.

The public deserves the real truth.
 
eburacum said:
This is probably it. I have no convincing explanation for such an object, although there are a few that spring to mind; unfortunately, they all involve some sort of deception.
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Hmmm… they need some better cameras. The image is so blurry as to be useless - there’s a surprise.. Were any prayers recited before this image was taken?
 
If it was taken with a game camera the best ones have an IR sensor range of about 100 feet but they're mostly designed for use at much shorter distances. They need to use better cameras for area surveillance.
It could just be the glare of a piece of broken glass or something.
 
I wonder if it is a hoax balloon or drone sent into the ranch by a hoaxer, a misguided fan or a well-wisher. There have been several silvery balloon-type 'orbs' seen on this series. Some of those may have been hoaxes too. If we give the Skinwalker crew the benefit of the doubt, odds are someone is hoaxing them.
 
Well hunck,

In this particular episode there was an bizarre burn mark on a wooden post and there was no evidence of a burn or heat mark on anything else like the plants around the post.

The local fire Marshall was called in and since he was a Shoshone Indian Councilman, this Fire Marshal offered a tobacco offering to his gods.

So, there was your religious prayer you were looking for.

The burn mark on this post was not caused by normal fire or lighting and the Fire Marshal classified this wood burn as unearthly.
 
Min Bannister said:
Here is the video of the "silver orb". It is a single frame and looks to me like a glancing reflection off something shiny.
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If it was small and moving fast then the most likely explanation is an insect. This doesn't really look like an insect, but neither do 'rods', and they are an artifact of the scanning process of electronic cameras. Could this be the same?

Here is a 'before and after' view of the object; it is not round, but has a definite projection towards the right. I suspect this may be the head of an insect, perhaps some sort of beetle or butterfly, and the spherical appearance is an illusion caused by a quick snapshot of the insect's wings in motion.
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eburacum said:
If it was small and moving fast then the most likely explanation is an insect. This doesn't really look like an insect, but neither do 'rods', and they are an artifact of the scanning process of electronic cameras. Could this be the same?

Here is a 'before and after' view of the object; it is not round, but has a definite projection towards the right. I suspect this may be the head of an insect, perhaps some sort of beetle or butterfly, and the spherical appearance is an illusion caused by a quick snapshot of the insect's wings in motion.
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The plain fact is, that this photo is just not sharp enough to discern what it is!
 
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Well, more information now available suggests that this phenomenon appeared in a video clip running at normal speed, so only lasted for 1/24th of a second; that is a single quick flash. It would have to be a very small, very quick insect flying past, or some sort of glitch in the camera system.
Or a fraction of a second looking into another dimension through a tiny hole - not a particularly likely scenario.
 
Well, what ever this object is, I believe it is real and moving very fast.

Since this is a one frame capture, I don’t think it is a bird or insect because birds and insects would be to slow and also would be on more than one frame.

I think this was a extremely lucky once in a million photo shot.
 
These sorts of minor unexplained glitches are relatively common in video recordings. They are almost always small insects, birds or pieces of wind-blown debris such as seeds or bark, catching the light for a split second.

If we were to examine every piece of video taken in the open air in the countryside we could probably find millions or billions of them. Are they all alien/interdimensional probes? Or are they more likely to be small, unidentified, natural items in the air? The film clip run at normal speed shows the nearby bushes blowing about in a decent breeze. This could easily explain why the object is only visible for a fraction of a second.

https://www.metabunk.org/data/video/59/59038-9cafadca554849ba9b683278caa28463.mp4

My suggestion for this kind of security cam is to have two, well-synchronised cameras placed a few centimetres apart, to mimic stereoscopic vision and eliminate small, nearby objects. If this were a nearby insect or wind-blown seed, it would show up on both cams and the distance could be easily calculated by triangulation. A similar set-up could identify and eliminate small objects seen from the ISS, for example.
 
eburacum said:
These sorts of minor unexplained glitches are relatively common in video recordings. They are almost always small insects, birds or pieces of wind-blown debris such as seeds or bark, catching the light for a split second.

If we were to examine every piece of video taken in the open air in the countryside we could probably find millions or billions of them. Are they all alien/interdimensional probes? Or are they more likely to be small, unidentified, natural items in the air? The film clip run at normal speed shows the nearby bushes blowing about in a decent breeze. This could easily explain why the object is only visible for a fraction of a second.

https://www.metabunk.org/data/video/59/59038-9cafadca554849ba9b683278caa28463.mp4

My suggestion for this kind of security cam is to have two, well-synchronised cameras placed a few centimetres apart, to mimic stereoscopic vision and eliminate small, nearby objects. If this were a nearby insect or wind-blown seed, it would show up on both cams and the distance could be easily calculated by triangulation. A similar set-up could identify and eliminate small objects seen from the ISS, for example.
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Higher definition cameras would have helped a great deal too! If this is/was uap, they would be, or are, kicking themselves I'm sure.
 
The usual use for trail cams is to capture wildlife at closer range. For more general distance surveillance they’re not really up to the job. Unless the job is to find a constant stream of very debatable incidents which they never get to the bottom of but can add to the list before moving on to the next thing.
 
I believe that the team talked about the likelihood of a game camera taking this picture of this object so far away close to the tree line could only mean this object was really big.

I think the object is a true mystery.
 
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