Disciple of Marduk
- Aug 24, 2001
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- HM The Tower of London
You weren't quoting Maxwell, you were slurring Guiffre in your very own words. Guiffre has been speaking out against Maxwell and Epstein for years and has already, as I mentioned, made Maxwell eat her words.I wasn't quoting Maxwell, didn't know she'd used that term, those were my words. As for trafficking, we've all seen the photos of her with Andrew, happily smiling and probably thinking there was a good pay day in it for her . The time period too, in which she's just decided after all this time to make a play for a few quid fills me with mistrust in her motives.
The photo of Guiffre with HRH shows her smiling because that was expected of her as a trafficked sex object. Getting the photo was a clever move. She couldn't have managed that without looking compliant.
Guiffre escaped the Maxwell/Epstein situation by appearing obedient enough to get sent abroad on a massage course and then ringing them to say she wasn't coming back. They still harassed her for years afterwards.
You believe that if a woman is paid for sex she is a. immoral and b. completely recompensed even if she was not willing.
This is how Epstein originally wriggled out of serious charges of having coercive sex with minors; he managed to have the matter downgraded to prostitution, putting the shame on the victims.
The days when young women were too ashamed of being used by unscrupulous adults to speak out might be over.