The Outrageous Life & Suspicious Death Of Jeffrey Epstein

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I bet Ms Silly-Name herself is stewing too, after what happened to Epstein. People* are openly speculating on social media about the manner of her upcoming mysterious death. She's a goner.

*me included
Well quite.
Fingers crossed that her cell has reliable CCTV...
 

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Well quite.
Fingers crossed that her cell has reliable CCTV...
I'm wondering if she'll suddenly get some kind of compassionate bail so she can be killed off the prison grounds.
 

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You're quite the little Machiavelli aren't you? :reap:
I'm a quick learner. ;)

She knows too much about too many people, she's doomed. She is in custody and unlikely to get bail because she's shown herself capable of going on the run.

On trial she will have to decide what story to tell. Plea bargain/throw others to the wolves for a lighter sentence, or deny everything and risk being found guilty and a very long sentence? Accept all the blame personally and let not a single name slip?

Even if she could have her top-notch lawyers haggle everything down to slap-on-the-wrist level her more shady previous customers would be keeping an eye on her. She'd probably feel safer in prison than outside if Epstein hadn't suddenly died there.

I bet she's bricking it. I sincerely hope so.
 

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I'm wondering if she'll suddenly get some kind of compassionate bail so she can be killed off the prison grounds.
Or maybe she will mysteriously fall of a boat?

Which takes me back to the good old days of Essex girl jokes
Q. What’s the difference between an Essex girl and Bob Maxwell?
A. An Essex girl will never slip off your boat.

You need an appreciation of Rhyming Slang
 

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This is from the Mail so can entirely be relied on:

Ghislaine Maxwell has a secret stash of Jeffrey Epstein's twisted sex tapes and will use the footage as an insurance policy to save herself, a former friend exclusively revealed to DailyMail.com.

When officials raided Epstein's Manhattan townhouse after his arrest last July, they found thousands of graphic photos that included images of underage girls and a safe filled with compact discs labeled 'nude girls', according to authorities.

Maxwell's former friend explained: 'Ghislaine has always been as cunning as they come. She wasn't going to be with Epstein all those years and not have some insurance.

'The secret stash of sex tapes I believe Ghislaine has squirreled away could end up being her get out of jail card if the authorities are willing to trade. She has copies of everything Epstein had. They could implicate some twisted movers and shakers.'

The former friend continued: 'Not only did Epstein like to capture himself with underage girls on camera – he wanted to make sure he had something to hold over the rich and powerful men who took advantage of his sick largesse.'

'Ghislaine made sure that she socked away thumb drives of it all. She knows where all the bodies are buried and she'll use whatever she had to save her own a**.'
 

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Ghislaine Maxwell has a secret stash of Jeffrey Epstein's twisted sex tapes and will use the footage as an insurance policy to save herself, a former friend exclusively revealed to DailyMail.com.
How will that help though, if it's a pile of tapes of Epstein and friends having sex with underage girls? All it will do is make her an even bigger target. A HUGE gamble.

I really do seriously believe she is about to be murdered. Maybe not right away but before any incriminating tapes can be handed over.
 

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The charges:
  • Enticing minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts
  • Enticing minor to travel for illegal sex acts
  • Conspiracy to transport minors with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity
  • Transport of minor with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity
  • Two perjury counts.
She must have enjoyed her work for Epstein. She's a millionaire herself after her inheritance from her father and didn't need Epstein's money.
 

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She must have enjoyed her work for Epstein. She's a millionaire herself after her inheritance from her father and didn't need Epstein's money.
She'd groom the girls to rhe extent of remaining in the room while he abused them. Lower than a snake's belly. Mprals of a cowpat.
 

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How will that help though, if it's a pile of tapes of Epstein and friends having sex with underage girls? All it will do is make her an even bigger target. A HUGE gamble.

I really do seriously believe she is about to be murdered. Maybe not right away but before any incriminating tapes can be handed over.
I dunno. If a rich and powerful person on tape were to get her protected in some way in order to protect themselves, it might work.
If she had those tapes and handed them over they could have her for possession of underage rape porn or something, that alone could be a hefty sentence.
 

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This is from the Mail so can entirely be relied on:

Ghislaine Maxwell has a secret stash of Jeffrey Epstein's twisted sex tapes and will use the footage as an insurance policy to save herself, a former friend exclusively revealed to DailyMail.com.

When officials raided Epstein's Manhattan townhouse after his arrest last July, they found thousands of graphic photos that included images of underage girls and a safe filled with compact discs labeled 'nude girls', according to authorities.
Yes, and no one has been charged over those tapes despite them being suppsedly being labelled with names of the men allegedly in the videos. Those tapes have just disappeared.
 

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How will that help though, if it's a pile of tapes of Epstein and friends having sex with underage girls? All it will do is make her an even bigger target. A HUGE gamble.
Depends how many judges, prosecutors etc are on those tapes. You just need to make sure they can be released into the public domain if anything were to happen to you.
 

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This scandal and Maxwell's part in it are fascinating to me. Supplying and using underage girls as a commodity like cars or drugs relies on compromising all the participants and implicating them in criminality.

Taking any part in it besmirches people. They're all criminals. The richer and more powerful participants are dangerous criminals, however they ostensibly make a living.

Depends how many judges, prosecutors etc are on those tapes. You just need to make sure they can be released into the public domain if anything were to happen to you.
That's a big IF. Maxwell's powerful friends will turn against her to save their own skins. Whoever is believed to be in control of that evidence is also a target. Wouldn't like to be in THEIR shoes!

Yes, and no one has been charged over those tapes despite them being suppsedly being labelled with names of the men allegedly in the videos. Those tapes have just disappeared.
But SOMEBODY knows where they are. Massive potential for further criminality/blackmail/coercion there, none actually favourable to Maxwell.
Threatening to expose rich powerful men is just ASKING for a quick shove down a long flight of metal steps.

I dunno. If a rich and powerful person on tape were to get her protected in some way in order to protect themselves, it might work.
If she had those tapes and handed them over they could have her for possession of underage rape porn or something, that alone could be a hefty sentence.
There would be competing interests from various interested parties. None would trust the others. Obvious really, considering all they have in common are money and an interest in sex with underage girls. The most favourable solution for any of them would be to bump Maxwell off.

Seems obvious to me that all Maxwell has in her corner is evidence of her own and others' criminality. Whatever she has and whoever it implicates, and wherever it currently is, it's just going to make everything a hundred times worse for her. I wonder if she even realises this herself yet.

I picture her holding out one of those cartoon bombs with a sparking fuse and saying 'Step back or I'll set it off!'
It's already lit and she's the one being blown up. Hoist with her own petard, indeed.

As @Vardoger says, Maxwell is rich. She had no need to support herself by becoming a procuress.

She could have dedicated her life to good causes or even sat round watching TV all day. At least she'd have some self-respect, and wouldn't now be looking at an ignominious if ingeniously-orchestrated demise.
 

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"Maxwell's powerful friends will turn against her to save their own skins."

Perhaps David Copperfield, who allegedly was no stranger to the Maxwell property, will create a web of illusion?

I also see, from the Daily Beast article, that Michael Jackson was also implicated. Doubt we 'll ever know the full facts about him.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/epste...ckson-prince-andrew-trump-clinton-and-the-cia
Mention of Jackson brings me to my next point, which is that boys and young men are equally as likely to be trafficked for sex as girls and young women are. It's hard to believe that hasn't gone on too.

Either procuring boys was another of Maxwell's jobs or someone else was doing it. There is surely another scandal waiting to come out.
 

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"Maxwell's powerful friends will turn against her to save their own skins." Perhaps David Copperfield, who allegedly was no stranger to the Maxwell property, will create a web of illusion? I also see, from the Daily Beast article, that Michael Jackson was also implicated. Doubt we 'll ever know the full facts about him. https://www.thedailybeast.com/epstein-book-reveals-shocking-details-on-michael-jackson-prince-andrew-trump-clinton-and-the-cia
There are those who are watching this to see how deep Mossad infiltration goes in the US system. If Epstein was indeed operating a pedophile honeypot for Mossad, then will the operatives be hung out to dry, quietly assassinated, or will steps be taken to save them? The stage is set, so let's find out who the actors will be... My money is on another assassination, but perhaps that will raise too many eyebrows. Popcorn anyone?
 

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There are those who are watching this to see how deep Mossad infiltration goes in the US system. If Epstein was indeed operating a pedophile honeypot for Mossad, then will the operatives be hung out to dry, quietly assassinated, or will steps be taken to save them? The stage is set, so let's find out who the actors will be... My money is on another assassination, but perhaps that will raise too many eyebrows. Popcorn anyone?
An outright assassination is too obvious. How about a mysterious incident?
- Car run off a desert road?
- Boot of a burning car?
- Zipped up inside a holdall?
- Trussed up in bondage gear with an orange in the mouth?
- Random mugging that goes disastrously wrong?
- Unfortunate carbon dioxide leak?
- Freak sports accident?
- Sudden engine failure in a light aircraft?
- Accidental overdose of prescription medicines?
- Disappearance from a cruise liner?
- Domestic incident?
- Heart failure after hospitalisation for a minor operation?
- Simple fall downstairs?
- House fire?
- Drowning in a lake, sea or swimming pool?
- Ingestion of vomit after heavy drinking?
- Going missing on a popular hiking trail?
- Any form of suicide? Or a murder/suicide?
- Accidental discharge of a firearm?
- 'Cause of Death uncertain'? Covers many eventualities.

All the above and more have conveniently happened to people who might be said to have known too much. Many have been mentioned on this very message board.
The more outlandish deaths like the ones involving sexual practices are believed by some to be a warning to others to shut up.
 

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An outright assassination is too obvious. How about a mysterious incident?
- Car run off a desert road?
- Boot of a burning car?
- Zipped up inside a holdall?
- Trussed up in bondage gear with an orange in the mouth?
- Random mugging that goes disastrously wrong?
- Unfortunate carbon dioxide leak?
- Freak sports accident?
- Sudden engine failure in a light aircraft?
- Accidental overdose of prescription medicines?
- Disappearance from a cruise liner?
- Domestic incident?
- Heart failure after hospitalisation for a minor operation?
- Simple fall downstairs?
- House fire?
- Drowning in a lake, sea or swimming pool?
- Ingestion of vomit after heavy drinking?
- Going missing on a popular hiking trail?
- Any form of suicide? Or a murder/suicide?
- Accidental discharge of a firearm?
- 'Cause of Death uncertain'? Covers many eventualities.

All the above and more have conveniently happened to people who might be said to have known too much. Many have been mentioned on this very message board.
The more outlandish deaths like the ones involving sexual practices are believed by some to be a warning to others to shut up.
If you get on a plane and you see she is a passenger change your flight plans!

Can I also add to the list complications due to Covid 19?
 

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If you get on a plane and you see she is a passenger change your flight plans!

Can I also add to the list complications due to Covid 19?
Seeing an entire plane load of innocence passengers sacrificed to cover up some oligarch's criminal connections is certainly possible.
Covid-19 is also feasible. People with that can die from sudden organ failure.
 

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An outright assassination is too obvious. How about a mysterious incident?
- Car run off a desert road?
- Boot of a burning car?
- Zipped up inside a holdall?
- Trussed up in bondage gear with an orange in the mouth?
- Random mugging that goes disastrously wrong?
- Unfortunate carbon dioxide leak?
- Freak sports accident?
- Sudden engine failure in a light aircraft?
- Accidental overdose of prescription medicines?
- Disappearance from a cruise liner?
- Domestic incident?
- Heart failure after hospitalisation for a minor operation?
- Simple fall downstairs?
- House fire?
- Drowning in a lake, sea or swimming pool?
- Ingestion of vomit after heavy drinking?
- Going missing on a popular hiking trail?
- Any form of suicide? Or a murder/suicide?
- Accidental discharge of a firearm?
- 'Cause of Death uncertain'? Covers many eventualities.

All the above and more have conveniently happened to people who might be said to have known too much. Many have been mentioned on this very message board.
The more outlandish deaths like the ones involving sexual practices are believed by some to be a warning to others to shut up.
All your Machiavellian methods of dispatch made me think of a certain hapless Southpark character:

kenny.JPG
 

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An outright assassination is too obvious. How about a mysterious incident?
- Car run off a desert road?
- Boot of a burning car?
- Zipped up inside a holdall?
- Trussed up in bondage gear with an orange in the mouth?
- Random mugging that goes disastrously wrong?
- Unfortunate carbon dioxide leak?
- Freak sports accident?
- Sudden engine failure in a light aircraft?
- Accidental overdose of prescription medicines?
- Disappearance from a cruise liner?
- Domestic incident?
- Heart failure after hospitalisation for a minor operation?
- Simple fall downstairs?
- House fire?
- Drowning in a lake, sea or swimming pool?
- Ingestion of vomit after heavy drinking?
- Going missing on a popular hiking trail?
- Any form of suicide? Or a murder/suicide?
- Accidental discharge of a firearm?
- 'Cause of Death uncertain'? Covers many eventualities.

All the above and more have conveniently happened to people who might be said to have known too much. Many have been mentioned on this very message board.
The more outlandish deaths like the ones involving sexual practices are believed by some to be a warning to others to shut up.
Lightning strike - these prison bars would surely attract lightning and if she's standing too close to the window...
Falling down stairs several times.
Becoming the drummer in a rock band.
 

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An outright assassination is too obvious. How about a mysterious incident?
- Car run off a desert road?
- Boot of a burning car?
- Zipped up inside a holdall?
- Trussed up in bondage gear with an orange in the mouth?
- Random mugging that goes disastrously wrong?
- Unfortunate carbon dioxide leak?
- Freak sports accident?
- Sudden engine failure in a light aircraft?
- Accidental overdose of prescription medicines?
- Disappearance from a cruise liner?
- Domestic incident?
- Heart failure after hospitalisation for a minor operation?
- Simple fall downstairs?
- House fire?
- Drowning in a lake, sea or swimming pool?
- Ingestion of vomit after heavy drinking?
- Going missing on a popular hiking trail?
- Any form of suicide? Or a murder/suicide?
- Accidental discharge of a firearm?
- 'Cause of Death uncertain'? Covers many eventualities.

All the above and more have conveniently happened to people who might be said to have known too much. Many have been mentioned on this very message board.
The more outlandish deaths like the ones involving sexual practices are believed by some to be a warning to others to shut up.
Or your bodyguard having a day off and the RUC forgetting to arrange a replacement. That happened to Rev Robert Bradford MP, assassinated by the IRA. Now he was a longtime target for the IRA, being linked to the UVF, maybe even their Chaplain but the IRA getting him on the day he had no bodyguard? You'd almost suspect someone tipped them off.

Obviously nothing to do with the fact that the ordinary RUC were about to interview Bradford about the Kincora Boy's Home scandal. There was a force within the force in those days.
 

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Who'dve thought?..
The tapes are somewhere, and someone knows what's what. There's probably a sort of grim underground auction going on for them right now.
Price will include the bumping off of certain interested parties.
 

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The tapes are somewhere, and someone knows what's what. There's probably a sort of grim underground auction going on for them right now.
Price will include the bumping off of certain interested parties.
It would mean someone in the Police/FBI removed them, or security forces of some kind.
 
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