Cochise
Priest of the cult of the Dog with the Broken Paw
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I thought that was part of the definitionI don’t think Maxwell was super-upper-class. Just another wide boy operating without any scruples at all.
I thought that was part of the definitionI don’t think Maxwell was super-upper-class. Just another wide boy operating without any scruples at all.
Well, he obviously knew her well once, else he wouldn't have used those words.It could have simply been another one of his blandishments.
Psychopathology. These people have a mental illness. They believe they are superior, even to other ultra-rich people.Thing is, it's all very sordid. But we have all known it goes on. In a distant way, we're all complicit.
Like the "Me Too" movement highlighted sexual abuse in the film industry, and everyone looked so damn surprised while for DECADES the phrase "the casting couch" was used with a smile and a wink, everyone is surprised this has gone on.
If you are a multimillionaire, you can pay people, you can buy people, to do anything you want. That's why these people want to be multimillionaires. It's a 'perk' of the position. Normal rules don't apply. If it goes to court then YOU have chums that you've got leverage on to get you off. The judge "just happens" to be given a perk by a friend of yours ... and so on.
The attainment of wealth as a life objective perpetuates this toxic attitude!
If you are poor, you are told to work to become rich. If you become rich then you are told you aren't rich enough to 'qualify'. When you qualify as ultra-rich then your concern doesn't focus on maintaining your wealth but maintaining the privilege that your wealth brings. It's like a financial "keeping up with the Jones" but detaching yourself from the less wealthy.
What I've never got my head around is ... why?
Money is the power behind the world and money can make your life easier but why put this value on money, play up to absolute wankers, if your life can exist without the "extras"?
Good post.Thing is, it's all very sordid. But we have all known it goes on. In a distant way, we're all complicit.
Like the "Me Too" movement highlighted sexual abuse in the film industry, and everyone looked so damn surprised while for DECADES the phrase "the casting couch" was used with a smile and a wink, everyone is surprised this has gone on.
If you are a multimillionaire, you can pay people, you can buy people, to do anything you want. That's why these people want to be multimillionaires. It's a 'perk' of the position. Normal rules don't apply. If it goes to court then YOU have chums that you've got leverage on to get you off. The judge "just happens" to be given a perk by a friend of yours ... and so on.
The attainment of wealth as a life objective perpetuates this toxic attitude!
If you are poor, you are told to work to become rich. If you become rich then you are told you aren't rich enough to 'qualify'. When you qualify as ultra-rich then your concern doesn't focus on maintaining your wealth but maintaining the privilege that your wealth brings. It's like a financial "keeping up with the Jones" but detaching yourself from the less wealthy.
What I've never got my head around is ... why?
Money is the power behind the world and money can make your life easier but why put this value on money, play up to absolute wankers, if your life can exist without the "extras"?
There are studies that show those who are ultra-rich will act in ways different to the "common" folk, believing they "deserve" what they have and more so. One example is a bowl of candies. When it is believed they are unobserved poor people will take one, but the very wealthy are more likely to take more than one. And it covers the whole political spectrum, left to right.Psychopathology. These people have a mental illness. They believe they are superior, even to other ultra-rich people.
What I object to is our society, and others, playing up to this assumed 'difference'.[...] There are studies that show those who are ultra-rich will act in ways different to the "common" folk, believing they "deserve" what they have and more so. [...]
It's about time the reverence shown to the rich and famous came to an end. Sadly these characters are seen as some sort of role model to some people, despite the revelations that continue to emerge about their characters.There are studies that show those who are ultra-rich will act in ways different to the "common" folk, believing they "deserve" what they have and more so. One example is a bowl of candies. When it is believed they are unobserved poor people will take one, but the very wealthy are more likely to take more than one. And it covers the whole political spectrum, left to right.
Epstein and his friends used people not just because they could, but because they believed they deserved it, they've "earned" the right to act outside the laws, and their wealth and privilege are entirely of their own making.
It's about time the reverence shown to the rich and famous came to an end. Sadly these characters are seen as some sort of role model to some people, despite the revelations that continue to emerge about their characters.
And giving knighthoods to people who invent ludicrously expensive hoovers, people who can peddle their bicycle faster than their mates, those who can work out how to eliminate enemies better than others and all their ilk should be abolished.
Not sure I agree with all those points.
Plenty of sportsmen and women, inventors, entrepreneurs etc. have benefited society in very positive ways and I don't begrudge them getting some recognition.
*trying REALLY hard not to mention the latest round of honours*
I think we all need something to aspire to, to make us strive for excellence.And giving knighthoods to people who invent ludicrously expensive hoovers, people who can peddle their bicycle faster than their mates, those who can work out how to eliminate enemies better than others and all their ilk should be abolished.
Remember that brat Beckham not getting the list but slagging Katherine Jenkins for getting one.I think we all need something to aspire to, to make us strive for excellence.
That said, honours are now being handed out like Smarties, to a few people who don't deserve it (this is in the eye of the beholder).
I don't remember that. Katharine who?Remember that brat Beckham not getting the list but slagging Katherine Jenkins for getting one.
Welsh lass, nice singer easy on the eye.I don't remember that. Katharine who?
Go on - you know you want to.*trying REALLY hard not to mention the latest round of honours*
Hang on.*trying REALLY hard not to mention the latest round of honours*
No. He was a rich pervert with rich pervert friends, and who blackmailed anyone he could to maintain his own lifestyle.[...]
Jeffrey Epstein was blackmailing politicians for Israel’s Mossad, new book claims.
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Also, he was not politically or otherwise important in himself. He was expendable.No. He was a rich pervert with rich pervert friends, and who blackmailed anyone he could to maintain his own lifestyle.
It was ultimately, like much human frailties and perversions, selfish. What he did was for himself. Because he could and he was allowed to.
If there was a political angle, it wasn't anything to to with his own politics but what he himself gained. You can't blame politics and religion on this one ... he was a disgusting individual who did what he did for himself.