PASCAGOULA - KEESLER AFB INTERVIEWS ON FRIDAY 12 OCTOBER, 1973
PART 1 OF 2
As we appreciate, events earlier that evening, were reported by Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker to the Sheriff's department in Pascagoula, on the night of Thursday 11 October, 1973 and their pristine witness testimonials, recorded on tape.
Additionally, the following day, further crucial interviews were conducted at Keesler AFB.
A transcript of the Keesler AFB proceedings later became available and a copy, edited for length, was published, in the MUFON UFO Journal, May/June 1984 issue.
As this publication is freely available to download, the following, related extract is presumed to have no copyright issues.
Furthermore, I should expect that MUFON would be in favour of it being highlighted.
The importance of this documentation is not being addressed here - that is a separate matter for discussion.
THE AIR FORCE AND PASCAGOULA
Transcript of Hickson-Parker Interrogation
On October 12, 1973, the day after Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker reported being taken aboard a UFO while fishing in Pascagoula, Mississippi, they were taken to Keesler Air Force Base in nearby Biloxi to be interviewed by Air Force officials. The transcript of that interview has never been released, although Air Force officials had promised to send a copy to the sheriff of Jackson County while refusing to give Hickson or his attorney, Joe Colingo, a copy. Now a copy of that transcript has surfaced, being given to MUFON by Ran Stanford, of Austin, Texas Stanford said he received a copy of the transcript from the father of one of the Air Force officers who took part in the interview.
Following are major portions of the transcript, which was edited down because of its length.
12 October 1973
The following is a transcription of a report made this date by the following individuals:
Mr. Charles Hickson, 2722. Apt. 1. College Villa Apts, Pascagoula, MS.
Mr. Calvin Parker, Jr., Same address.
The report was made to the following personnel:
Lt. Colonel Derrington, Security Police.
Colonel Amdall, Chairman, Department of Medicine.
Colonel Rudolph, Hospital Service.
Colonel Hanson, Services Veterinary.
Lt. Colonel Gibson, Associate Administrator.
Major Winans, Health Physicist.
Captain Hoban, Security Police.
MSgt. Russell, Security Police.
T.E. Huntley, Detective, Jackson County Sheriff's Office, Pascagoula, MS.
Joe Colingo, Attorney, Pascagoula, MS.
Mr. Hickson and Mr. Parker both stated they were employed in Pascagoula by F.B. Walker & Sons.
Two persons who reported sighting an object at approximately the same time were:
Raymond Broadus, Probation and Parole Officer, Pascagoula.
Larry, Larry's Standard Station, Market & Hickway 90. Pascagoula.
Lt. Colonel Derrington: I think the best way is to let them tell it as they recall it and then, on specifics, let them fill in areas for clarification.
Charles Hickson: Yesterday evening -I work at the shipyard and when I come in we decided we would go fishing. And the tide wasn't right and we didn't go out in a boat or anything, we thought we would go down - I don't know whether you are familiar with that area or not where the grain elevator is on the west bank of the river where the shipyard is. So we fished a while there and didn't have any luck and I told Calvin, who was with me, that we'd go on up the river a little further toward the shipyard. I had fished that area in there and loved fishing in there. We hadn't been there very long-we sat on the bank with our spinning reels-when all of a sudden there was a noise. Well what I just heard was a buzzing. I don't know why I turned around. I guess it was to see what it was. It was a blue light a real light, bright blue light. It could! have been purple or something like that. I mean, I would say it was blue at the time I seen the light. At the time I seen the light it just seemed to stop. I would say it was approximately 25 to 30 feet away from us, and I didn't know what to think. I was real frightened. I was scared and I know he (Calvin Parker) was from the appearance he had. It seemed that it didn't have exactly a door. It seemed that one end of it just opened up. Three things came out of it and they didn't touch the ground just floating, you know, slowly, a couple of feet off the ground. And couldn't believe it. I was just -
Derrington: You say three things came out of it. What did these three things appear?
Hickson: At the distance I couldn't tell. I mean, it was just immediately where we were.
Derrington: How large was the item hovering?
Hickson: It wasn't round. It seemed oval shaped and it was approximately 8 it. wide, it was a little longer than that, and it had to be over 8 ft. high. When they approached us-one on each side of my arms but I didn't feel any sensation at all when it touched me And amazingly I was just lifted right off the ground.
Derrington: You were lifted right off the ground?
Hickson: I was so scared I didn't pay too much attention to what they were doing to him- that was with him. And they carried me through the -I don't know what it was- and as we were in this thing anything in there that I know of it I did I didn't have any sensation of touching anything. The whole room like thing seemed to glow. I didn't see anything like light fixtures just a glowing inside. There were no chairs or anything that I seen. And I didn't see any instruments, although I seen things that Ijust can't explain what it was. There was things in there.
Derrington: What time of day was this.
Hickson: It was at night.
Derrington: What time?
Hickson: Well, I don't exactly know what time it was because I don't have a watch. It was quite a while after dark.
Derrington: Quite a while after dark?
Hickson: Yes. I don't know - it resembled an eye-but it was a big thing like a globe-but it just moved all around me
Derrington: This thing, or individual that came after you, you don't have any feel for what it was?
Hickson: Yes, sir, It had features of a human being, but it didn't have any hands. It had pinchers, or something like that.
Derrington: Could you tell if it looked more mechanical than human?
Hickson: No. I just don't know if it looked mechanical more than human. They were real pale looking to me. And 1 do remember specifically that on what I thought was their feet, there were no toes or anything like that. It was just almost round. It just seemed like it might have been just skin tight what they had on. But I didn't see any clothes. I don't know if I was so frightened, but I didn't see any kind of hair or anything on them. One of them made just some sort of sound. It is hard to say what kind of sound he did make, but the other two-I never heard one sound. Inside the vehicle I did not hear any sound.
Derrington: You mentioned earlier the sound when this thing approached.
Hickson: A buzzing sound.
Calvin Parker: Turned around and it was there.
Detective Huntley. You said there were eyes, a mouth, and a nose.
Hickson: Yes, I don't know whether you would call it a nose. It was something sitting on a body and a sharp thing come out about middleways of the eyes and it looked like an opening to me underneath and things on the side like ears, I don't know.
Parker: When they got me and took me toward the ship I passed out but it just looked like a ghost out there. It was like if something came through that wall there.
Hickson: I don't think I could have possibly lost consciousness while was inside of it. I don't think I did. I think I was conscious all the time.
Derrington: How long were you on board?
Hickson: I don't know how long we were on board. There was no sensation of moving or anything I don't know if we moved I don't know. After it was all over we couldn't believe it and knew we couldn't convince people of what we seen and we waited a while before we went to the Sheriff's Department and told them. I wanted to get the military in on it. I didn't want any publicity and i didn't want any news people, but after I thought about it a while I figured that was what I should do.
Derrington: What time would you say elapsed from the beginning until you were released?
Hickson: Oh, it had to be--it's hard to
Derrington: Was it hours or minutes?
Hickson: It had to be an hour or so. It had to be that long, but it seemed like an eternity. As far as I know I was conscious but I had no sensations inside of there- I didn't have any power to move.
Derrington: How were you released?
Hickson. They carried me right back out and I was immediately put on the ground. felt no pain and I felt normal. Then the vehicle was gone.
Derrington: During this time do you recall seeing Mr. Parker?
Hickson: I don't recall seeing him until after I was out.
Derrington: You didn't see him on board?
Hickson: No, sir, I didn't. I don't recall seeing him on board at all. As I said, Iwas scared partly out of my mind.
Derrington: When was the first time you noticed Calvin?
Hickson: When they brought me back out on the ground, I believe, is when I seen him again. He was hysterical and sort of looked like he was paralyzed but he suddenly came to his senses.
Derrington to Parker. Before you passed out, do you recall being lifted nto the vehicle?
Parker: I recall them getting me and just like a big magnet drawing me to it. I wasn't on the ground- I was off the ground. I don't remember a thing I just blacked out. I just stood there like was froze. Then I finally got to where !could move a little bit. It was like a bad dream I wish it had been a bad dream and it would all be over with. I didn't sleep more than three seconds all night.
Derrington: Do you recall them bringing you back out? Parker. No, sir. When I came to the ship went "zzzp" and disappeared.
(End of part 1 of 2)