feinman
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There will always be someone who can be bought or intimidated.OK, so the Pentagon in 180 days has to give a fair assessment of UFOs or UAPs.
Will the Pentagon find a J. Allen Hynek character and say, “ there is nothing to see here, move along, it is just swamp gas”.
OK, so the Pentagon in 180 days has to give a fair assessment of UFOs or UAPs. ...
Which is why we can't have nice things like disclosure and direct contact and the current strategy and tactics of contact will continue...The thing is, even with an assessment are we really going to believe whatever information the Pentagon releases? The Pentagon aren't even going to release all that they know of, there will still be secrets related to UAPs.
Short of alien spacecraft carrying out regular flyovers in the airspaces of large cities and/or aliens landing in the major cities of the world accompanied by a chat with the little green/grey creatures ......... even then would people really believe what they saw and heard in this age of 'fake news' ? There's just so much suspicion around the world of anything and everything these days, and it's all thanks to politicians lying for their own (corrupt) gains along with a largely ignorant public.
Well, they'd better get on with it then, instead of suppressing what they know.Russia, UK, and U.S. are really nervous about who is going to introduce UFOs to the world.
"... I think some of the phenomena we’re going to be seeing continues to be unexplained and might, in fact, be some type of phenomenon that is the result of something that we don’t yet understand and that could involve some type of activity that some might say constitutes a different form of life,"
Like the Chinese, they know nothing, because there is nothing to know.Well, they'd better get on with it then, instead of suppressing what they know.
Yeah and they have been for decades. The reality is that most of the weirdness was well... like Eburacum says:I believe I have posted this before, but the military should be investigating "unknown aerial phenomenon", it would be a matter of national security if there were unidentified objects in a nations airspace. Maybe it's a foreign spy plane, maybe it's a radar glitch.
If you count all of the reports, there's giant piles of evidence, but most of it's barely even abnormal let along proof of... anything. Which goes back to the analogy of sifting wheat from chaff.... where's the wheat?I'm afraid I do not see any good evidence coming from governments elsewhere in the world either. Just more inconclusive sightings. No contact, no material evidence, no DNA or technological relics, no bodies, no fossil or archaeological evidence, no astronomical evidence, no communication with the aliens. Nothing. Just lights in the sky.
I would note that the FLIR1 clip recorded by Chas Underwood showed a craft that was probably 50 kilometres away from his position, and which behaved in the way an ordinary domestic aircraft might be expected to do.I believe I have posted this before, but the military should be investigating "unknown aerial phenomenon", it would be a matter of national security if there were unidentified objects in a nations airspace. Maybe it's a foreign spy plane, maybe it's a radar glitch.
No, there are none, because at the time it wasn't even a big deal at the MOD.....the Rendlesham Forest incident... It happened on British soil, but since US military personnel were involved there's files at the Pentagon.
The first reply? "provide proof plz".I have always wondered what would happen if the Pentagon said to the world, we are not alone.
If the humanoids were peaceful, this would not bother me at all.
I didn't say there weren't witnesses, in fact I said the exact opposite. More that the witness testimony, such as what you posted excerpts of, is... inconclusive. Though the specific example you cited suggests it was a false alarm.No, there are none, because at the time it wasn't even a big deal at the MOD.
You add: "It's possible no one knows what happened, not even the people who saw it".
There has been vast amounts of factual evidence revealed on this forum, which explains much of what actually occurred.
See also, on Wikipedia, reference to the pivotal witness statements I uncovered over 20 years ago!:
Statements from eyewitnesses on 26 December
In 1997, Scottish researcher James Easton obtained the original witness statements made by those involved in the first night’s sightings. One of the witnesses, Ed Cabansag, said in his statement: "We figured the lights were coming from past the forest since nothing was visible when we passed through the woody forest. We would see a glowing near the beacon light, but as we got closer we found it to be a lit-up farmhouse. We got to a vantage point where we could determine that what we were chasing was only a beacon light off in the distance." Another participant, John Burroughs, also stated: "We could see a beacon going around so we went towards it. We followed it for about two miles [3 km] before we could [see] it was coming from a lighthouse."
Burroughs reported a noise "like a woman was screaming" and also that "you could hear the farm animals making a lot of noises." Halt heard the same noises two nights later. Such noise could have been made by Muntjac deer in the forest, which are known for their loud, shrill bark when alarmed".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren...t#Statements_from_eyewitnesses_on_26_December
Personally, that's a quite serious, fundamental concern about the Voyager probe gleefully indicating where we can be found.Do we have reason to believe that extraterrestrials would be enough like humans to care about our existence? Or would they see us as little more than a swarm of bugs to squash?
They basically have; they just won't comment on it because it would be too alarming.I have always wondered what would happen if the Pentagon said to the world, we are not alone.
If the humanoids were peaceful, this would not bother me at all.
Perfectly understood from the outset and regret if seemed otherwise. As noted before, there are so many facets, it is proverbially trying to unscramble an omelette!I didn't say there weren't witnesses, in fact I said the exact opposite. More that the witness testimony, such as what you posted excerpts of, is... inconclusive. Though the specific example you cited suggests it was a false alarm.
some people feel that the level of technological development required for space travel is too great for a "barbaric" civilization to achieve. this is using a lot of assumptions based on HUMAN behavior though and there's no telling how aliens might do it. the more different they are the less likely they are to be benevolent.Personally, that's a quite serious, fundamental concern about the Voyager probe gleefully indicating where we can be found.
If we look at Earth's history of a technically superior race coming across an inferior one.. it generally does not end well for those indigenous inhabitants.
Why indeed is it surmised an alien culture would be readily benevolent?
Unbelievably naive, if you ask me...
Yeah the real question is if they disclose the truth. Given the circumstances I'm expecting propaganda instead.John Podesta was Bill Clinton’s chief of staff at the White House, and he has advised Hillary Clinton, Obama, and now working close with Biden.
There is no secret that John is obsessed with UFOs, and tried under Bill Clinton to start disclosure.
In 2018 , John claimed on History Channel ‘s program Ancient Aliens that the shadow government made sure Hillary lost the 2016 Presidential election because they were afraid of disclosure.
Working now with Biden , we can only hope the truth will come out.
Disclosure coming in the future?