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The Electric Universe / Plasma Universe Concept

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Scientific Anomalies The Plasma Universe

The Epoch Times
Jun 01, 2005



Dear Reader,

This weekly column is intended to entertain you by exposing some of the more glaring scientific and historical anomalies which have been bypassed by our educational system.

“Anomalies” also wants to challenge our readers to take a fresh look at our changing world and perhaps consider whether our established belief system is adequate. As always, your comments and suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

Will Barkley
Email: [email protected]

What if...?
Our existing scientific model or paradigm of the universe, including the “Big Bang” has to be scrapped in favor of a more correct understanding that accounts for new evidence?

Thanks again to Carol Wickenkamp for this week’s source information, which is the website below (executive editors David Talbot and Wallace Thornhill):
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/ ... ok-art.htm
Other links relating to this week’s article and listed on the Thunderbolts site are: http://public.lanl.gov/alp/plasma/universe.html (Managed by Anthony Peratt.) http://www.knowledge.co.uk/sis/ Website for the Society for Interdisciplinary Studies www.electric-universe.info (Managed by Wallace Thornhill.)

This week’s Anomalies is probably only one of many that will deal with the concept of a universe that is basically filled with plasma and electric currents. From this “new” mindset the controlling forces in the universe are electrical in nature while from the existing, or “old,” mindset the force of gravity is the predominant force at work throughout the cosmos. A very compelling example of the use of this new understanding of the universe is the explanation of a specific type of rock art that has been discovered all around the world, the so-called “squatter man.”

As stated in the article accompanying these graphics, which was written by Anthony Peratt (also downloaded from the Thunderbolts.info website):

“The illustrations of one interesting formation—the ‘squatter man’ shown above—are taken from Peratt’s recent paper in ‘Transactions on Plasma Science’ of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, in December 2003. Peratt states his conclusion forthrightly: The recurring petroglyph patterns ‘are reproductions of plasma phenomena in space.”

“Peratt’s findings are particularly significant in their contrast to traditional explanations of rock art. The majority of rock art authorities, particularly those with primary interest in Native American sources, argue that only images of the sun, moon, and stars reflect actual celestial phenomena. Apart from such associations, most authorities claim that global patterns do not exist. Rather, they tell us, the ancient artists projected onto stone the subjective content of shamanistic trances. Peratt’s investigations say the opposite, and they confirm dozens of patterns of rock art that occur globally. Through massive labors, some apparently taking whole lifetimes according to Peratt, the artists recorded immense discharge phenomena in the heavens.”

“The ‘squatter man’ configuration occurs when a disk or donut-like torus around a linear discharge column is bent by magnetic fields induced by intense current flow. From the viewpoint of the observer, the edges of the upper disk may appear to point up (forming ‘arms’) and those of the lower torus may appear to point down (forming ‘legs’). The underlying ‘hourglass’ pattern, with many subtle variations, occurs around the world.”

“Our idealization of the hourglass discharge form accents the visual relationship of the two symmetrical dots or circles to a transparent doughnut-like torus, viewed edge on. But many other nuances of such discharge configurations must be taken into account. The warping of the upward and downward extremities of the hourglass form can occur in almost limitless variations. To illustrate the extent of the variations anciently recorded. The first, closely tied to the more elementary ‘squatter man’ formation, includes the two dots to the right and left of the torso. The incongruous additional pair of ‘legs’ also accord with observed patterns in the evolution of Peratt instabilities, which typically send out stacks of ‘arms’ or ‘legs’ in the very fashion depicted. Even more bizarre is the accompanying squatter man whose head is replaced by the body of a duck. But this pattern too, particularly widespread in the Americas, is no accident according to Peratt.”

“If Peratt’s conclusions are correct, then only a few thousand years ago the terrestrial sky was ablaze with electrical activity. The ramifications of this possibility will directly affect our understanding of cultural roots. What was the impact of the recorded events on the first civilizations? What was the relationship to the origins of world mythology, to the birth of the early religions, or to monumental construction in ancient times?”

While Anthony Peratt’s observations and understanding certainly do not constitute a “final and complete answer” he certainly is far ahead of the understanding being taught in our public school system. For those readers who would like to get a preview of the information that will be used in our classrooms of the future I strongly suggest that you buy a copy of his book, “Physics of the Plasma Universe.” Also, go to www.thunderbolts.info and click on the link “the book” to get information on the upcoming book, “Thunderbolts of the Gods” by David Talbot and Wallace Thornhill.

I hope this article on the plasma universe will cause you to take a fresh look at our changing world!

www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-6-1/29185.html (Link is dead)
 
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As I trawl around the net in the weired zone I keep coming across "The electric universe theory", I look at the evidence put forward but it's way over my head, but it crops up all over and not just in blogs. Any views on this subject, I did a search and couldn't find it covered on the board. :?
 
I looked it up on Wikipedia (which seems to be the font of all human knowledge these days):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Universe_concept
Wikipedia doesn't (or doesn't anymore) offer an article entry on the Electric Universe concept.


Interesting, but not very convincing...although I still am interested in electrogravity, which various different concepts still suggest exist.
 
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Scientists surprised by latest evidence, apparently

http://thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch ... numbra.htm

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Apr 18, 2006
Sunspot Penumbra Shock Astrophysicists

Textbook theory of sunspot activity faces new difficulties posed by the magnetically confined structures of the penumbra. The old idea that the penumbra filaments are “convection currents” must now give way to new evidence that electric currents dominate these solar structures.

We can thank the “Astronomy Picture of the Day” folks for the two images above. They are from a brief sequence that can be viewed as a movie by clicking here. The movie shows the sunspot in false-color images from different heights above the surface or photosphere. The first image (upper image in the picture above) shows the Sun's photosphere as it normally appears, covered with granules. The large dark sunspot sports a clear dark umbra in the center through which we can peer into the cooler region beneath the surface. Surrounding the sunspot is the lighter penumbra, composed of rope-vortices rising explosively from beneath the surface. In the linked movie, the images appearing toward the middle of the sequence show what is occurring a few hundred kilometers above the photosphere, as the twisted filaments of the penumbra begin to spread out horizontally.
 
A more in depth look at this issue complete with great photo

http://thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch ... theory.htm



Between January 15th and 19th four powerful solar flares erupted from “sunspot 720,” shown in the picture above. Then on January 20 the fifth explosion produced a coronal mass ejection (CME) that achieved velocities incomparably greater than anything astronomers had seen before. While it often takes more than 24 hours for the charged particles of a solar outburst to reach the Earth, this one was a profound exception. Just thirty minutes after the explosion, Earth (some 96 million miles from the Sun) was immersed in what NASA scientists called “the most intense proton storm in decades.” Proton storms get their name from the “rain” of positively charged particles when a mass ejection reaches the Earth.

One reason proton storms get attention is that they interfere with satellite communications and can even penetrate the skin of space suits and make astronauts sick. But for the proponents of popular theories about the Sun, this “storm” was far more than an irritant. According to a NASA news release, the event “has shaken the foundations of space weather theory.”

Prior to this event, how did astronomers explain proton storms? NASA’s “Headline News” story tells us that the mass ejection “begins with an explosion, usually above a sunspot. Sunspots are places where strong magnetic fields poke through the surface of the Sun. For reasons no one completely understands, these fields can become unstable and explode, unleashing as much energy as 10 billion hydrogen bombs.”

Powerful ejections can throw off a billion tons of solar material. Normally they travel relatively slowly. “Even the fastest ones, traveling one to two thousand km/s, take a day or so to reach Earth. You know a CME has just arrived when you see auroras in the sky”.

But how does the ejected material attain its observed speeds? Even common ejections travel faster and faster as they move outward from the Sun, achieving speeds up to a thousand miles per second or more. This acceleration, the theory surmises, can be explained by the “shock waves” that the CME produces. “Shock waves in front of the CME can accelerate these protons in our direction—hence the proton storm.”

But this space weather theory is “soon to be revised”, the story says. Here’s why: Though the speeds of typical CMEs are impressive, and have posed a deep mystery for decades, they do not come close to the speed of the January 20 ejection. Light from the Sun (or from a solar flare) reaches Earth in 8 minutes. An ejection reaching Earth in 30 minutes must be rapidly accelerated to velocities more than a quarter of the speed of light. From the traditional viewpoint, this is unthinkable. And yet it happened.

How, then, do theorists of the Electric Universe see all of this? Most are amused by the commotion. In the universe now observed with better and more versatile instruments, we see plasma jets and ejected material often attaining velocities approaching the speed of light. In electrical terms, the explanation is direct and obvious: electric fields in space accelerate charged particles. On this electrical principle there is no debate. But by banishing electric fields from their theoretical models, astronomers and astrophysicists are left with no mechanism to account for the things they now see. One after another, the ad hoc guesses must be abandoned.
 
Good tie in Timble2 nice read though at the end the NASA guy admits that it is a mystery as to how the protons got here so fast, near light speed. obviously that mystery doesn't mean the EU theory is correct, I'm completely unqualified to give a view, I just posted what I thought might be of interest to fellow forteans.
 
How, then, do theorists of the Electric Universe see all of this? Most are amused by the commotion. In the universe now observed with better and more versatile instruments, we see plasma jets and ejected material often attaining velocities approaching the speed of light. In electrical terms, the explanation is direct and obvious: electric fields in space accelerate charged particles. On this electrical principle there is no debate. But by banishing electric fields from their theoretical models, astronomers and astrophysicists are left with no mechanism to account for the things they now see. One after another, the ad hoc guesses must be abandoned.
This is typical of fringe science taradiddle, setting up a straw man to knock it down again. It is piffle to suggest that EM fields have been 'banished' from modern theories (the NASA links show that these fields are well known).

This particular CME may have come as a surprise, and may require the modification of various theories, but that is part of the ongoning process of science, subjecting theories to rigourous testing as new facts become available.

And if the EU theorists are trying to divorce electric fields from magnetic ones, they won't get very far. The universe is dynamic, and moving charged objects will create changing electric fields, which result in related magnetic fields. Likewise, magnetic objects will also create electric fields.

Electromagnetism is a single phenomenon, as Maxwell showed us, back in the 19th century.
 
The Thunderbolts Project website cited (with a dead link) in the quote above still exists at:

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/

I cannot locate the specific item or article originally referenced above.
 
Other links relating to this week’s article and listed on the Thunderbolts site are:

public.lanl.gov/alp/plasma/universe.html (Managed by Anthony Peratt.)
The link is dead, and so is the website to which it pointed.
The MIA Plasma Universe website (webpages) can be retrieved via the Wayback Machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20051103062355/http://public.lanl.gov/alp/plasma/universe.html

The current website containing materials from the MIA website can be accessed at:

http://plasmauniverse.info

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http://www.knowledge.co.uk/sis/ Website for the Society for Interdisciplinary Studies

The current website for the Society for Interdisciplinary Studies is:

http://www.sis-group.org.uk

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www.electric-universe.info (Managed by Wallace Thornhill.)
Link is dead. The Electric Universe material is now available at:
https://www.holoscience.com/wp/
 
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