It seems to be based on these lines in the article and the presumed belief that Trump would become the 19th President of the "original republic". So it's some combination of Q and Sovereign Citizen stuff.I suspect it's the Vice.com reporter evidencing carelessness. Doesn't seem to be a quote.
Um. Was there an 1871 law about something ?It seems to be based on these lines in the article and the presumed belief that Trump would become the 19th President of the "original republic". So it's some combination of Q and Sovereign Citizen stuff.
"Sovereign citizens believe that a law enacted in 1871 secretly turned the U.S. into a corporation and did away with the American government of the founding fathers.
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The source for this date is the fact that 1933 was also the year when inaugurations were changed from March 4 to Jan. 20 — to shorten the lame-duck period of outgoing presidents. QAnon followers believe that Trump will become the president of the original republic, and not the corporation that they believe the 1871 act created. "
According to Wikipedia:Um. Was there an 1871 law about something ?
[The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871] served as the basis of conspiracy theories relating to the sovereign citizen movement. According to these, the Act would have made the District, and consequently the whole United States, into a corporation. There is no evidence for these claims, which stem from a misinterpretation of the meaning of the term municipal corporation used in the Act. The vocabulary used has in fact a wider meaning here, and refers to any group authorized to legally act as a single entity (in this case, an incorporated, organized district of the United States).
This was later revived by supporters of the QAnon conspiracy theory to falsely claim that former president Donald Trump will be sworn in as the 19th president of the original United States on March 4, 2021. This date corresponds to the original presidential inauguration, before it was moved to January 20 by the Twentieth Amendment (signed in 1933, 62 years after the Act, and thus - falsely - claimed to be invalid).
Blimey it's bad enough reading that thread and those things are "once removed" from the person spouting them. Crazy stuff. How dreadful for people that it rips their families apart.The Reddit 'Q-Anon Casualties' thread makes for sobering reading (I lurk there only).
Thanks. "Municipal Corporation" is a term of art in legal language around local governments. For example, I live in an "unincorporated village" which implies that the larger ones down the road are "Incorporated villages". Not sure how a law relating to DC would affect the federal government, but I guess this is not the time to look for logic.According to Wikipedia:
I ran into a sovereign citizen a few years ago but her only issue was that as such she did not have to pay taxes. The rule she used for the exemption I looked up - it is an actual exemption for residents of US protectorate Pacific Islands who earn income there. She didn't involve my organization in the scam so I had no real reason to drop a dime, I wonder how many of these people have been involved as part of profitable scams t=involving legal or tax advice or whatever.Years ago, I had the very dubious honor of working with a guy who was in the process of getting out of prison on parole. He told me he had been befriended by a "sovereign citizen" in prison who became his guru. My co-worker was planning to file the documents at the county courthouse, declaring himself sovereign, as soon as he made parole. He went into great detail about all the delusional crap he had been told, and he was convinced it was all true. The guy had some serious anger issues as well, so I limited my responses to George Noory type "izzatright" and "I see". It was really sad. The guy was trying hard to go straight and get his life in order, but his silly obsession with such lunacy could not have helped. When people buy into that kind of crap, they seem to leave whatever sense they had behind and just go full moron. I suppose it makes it easier to think of oneself as a victim, somehow. Surely a sovereign citizen behind bars would begin to notice the cognitive dissonance after a while, wouldn't they?
They are into all sorts of illegal crap here. They have been around a while too. Most of the ones I'm familiar with are not bright enough for successful careers as criminals though. Back home in Kansas, there were a few out in the hills who would come into town driving old pickups with no license plates. In place of a plate there would be some cardboard sign or something explaining their "diplomatic immunity" or some such. The cops generally ignored them as long as they behaved. Which meant they had to be a lot more careful than the rest of us locals because if they got pulled over, there was little chance they'd get away with a written warning or just a stern lecture. I always thought that was pretty funny.I ran into a sovereign citizen a few years ago but her only issue was that as such she did not have to pay taxes. The rule she used for the exemption I looked up - it is an actual exemption for residents of US protectorate Pacific Islands who earn income there. She didn't involve my organization in the scam so I had no real reason to drop a dime, I wonder how many of these people have been involved as part of profitable scams t=involving legal or tax advice or whatever.
Deities, some people really do love nothing better than stirring the stinky stuff!Interesting speculation here, on behalf of a reasonably informed commentator:
Its March 4th, the day Qanon thought Trump would be inaugurated as the 19th President.
Is Biden using green screen? That's what Trumpers and QAnon fans ask themselves after an interview video vent viral
Notice the large microphone and Biden's hand.
That's right. It's the mics that are using the green screen to look like they're with Biden.You can't use a green screen technique (by itself) to insert something in front of (in the foreground relative to) the focal figure.
He's hiding that he's a Reptilian?That's right. It's the mics that are using the green screen to look like they're with Biden.
But seriously, what if he was? Why would he, and what would it prove?
Is Biden using green screen? That's what Trumpers and QAnon fans ask themselves after an interview video vent viral
Notice the large microphone and Biden's hand.