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The Risks Of E-Cigarettes & Vaping

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Blimey! This never happened with ordinary cigarettes.

Smoker hurt after e-cig explodes

A woman was taken to hospital suffering shock and smoke inhalation after an e-cigarette exploded. The explosion is thought to have occurred after an incompatible charger was used, causing the device to ignite.

Four fire engines and more than 20 firefighters rescued the woman from the ground-floor flat in Barking, east London, on Saturday afternoon. She was suffering from smoke inhalation and shock and was taken to hospital by ambulance.

The London Fire Brigade has warned about the safety of the devices and is asking users to ensure the correct charger is attached.

The blaze follows reports of an incident in Manchester where a 64-year-old woman sustained burns after apparently lighting an e-cigarette in a hospital.

Following an initial investigation, it is thought it was due to a naked flame from a cigarette lighter while using oxygen, according to Greater Manchester Police.

Charlie Pugsley, from the London Fire Brigade fire investigation team, said: "People assume e-cigarettes are much safer than ordinary cigarettes, and in most cases they are.

"The danger is that people sometimes use incorrect chargers, which runs the risk of over-charging, which can potentially have explosive results. We are calling on e-cig retailers to ensure they are selling the correct chargers for the cigarettes.

"As with all rechargeable electrical equipment, it's vitally important that people use the correct type of charger for their e-cigs to prevent fires, which can be serious and could even result in death."

The brigade said people should never leave items such as e-cigarettes on charge overnight or when they are sleeping. They also highlighted safety concerns over people lighting cigarettes when using oxygen cylinders for lung conditions.

Users should also avoid smoking or using naked flames near oxygen equipment as cylinders can explode when exposed to heat.

Smokers are increasingly turning to e-cigarettes to beat the habit, with the market for the smoking aids reaching an estimated £193 million last year, according to analyst Mintel.

Although tobacco-free, the devices do provide a hit of nicotine, leading some health experts to warn that they reinforce the behaviour of smoking, making it harder to give up in the long term.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/break ... 87886.html
 
These e-cigs are bad enough in their own way...at work, one of the directors spotted a non-smoking member of staff smoking one of these things. He said he'd now taken up smoking e-cigs... :roll:
 
Another one!

Leicester woman's 'shock' as 'e-cig explodes' in car

Kim Taylor said she will now use disposable e-cigarettes after one exploded in her car while it was charging

A Leicester woman claims her e-cigarette and car charger adapter exploded while it was recharging, creating a "two-foot flame".

Kim Taylor, from the Aylestone area, believes the fire started because she used a different make of adapter.

She said there was a lack of instructions for using the kit.

The fire service has warned that the battery could explode during recharging because there was "no safety cut-off" stopping them from overheating.

'Black smoke shock'
The 54-year-old mother said the e-cigarette, which was plugged into a car charger of a different brand, was recharging for about 20 minutes before the device exploded.

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I opened the drivers door and a load of black smoke came out, I was shocked”

Kim Taylor
E-cigarette user
"I opened the driver's door and a load of black smoke came out, I was shocked," Ms Taylor said.

"I looked inside the car and the back seat was alight, about a two-foot flame, so I ran back into the house and got a bowl of water and put it out.

"Luckily the car was parked up and no-one was inside at the time."

Ms Taylor added that the e-cigarette kit she brought from a petrol station lacked instructions and she has since contacted trading standards about her concerns.

"I don't want anybody else to make the same mistake as I did," she said.

Station Manager Dave Watson, from Leicestershire Fire and Rescue Service, said: "There seems to be no safety cut-off mechanism, which prevents them from over heating during charging - causing the battery to overheat and explode."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leic ... e-27142760
 
When we first had general purpose rechargeable batteries none of the chargers had cut-outs or anything - you had to time the charging or the batteries were destroyed, violently if you were unlucky. That was only a decade or so ago!

Astonishing how quickly people become accustomed to new stuff.
 
A cynical person might notice how ingeniously destructive tobacco is, if smokers can still be maimed or killed or have their houses burned down while resolutely not smoking.
 
E-cigarettes expose people to more than harmless vapor, should be regulated

In a major scientific review of research on e-cigarettes, UC San Francisco scientists found that industry claims about the devices are unsupported by the evidence to date, including claims that e-cigarettes help smokers quit.


The review marks the first comprehensive assessment of peer-reviewed published research into the relatively new phenomenon of electronic cigarettes.

The devices, which are rapidly gaining a foothold in popular culture particularly among youth, are marketed as a healthier alternative to tobacco smoking, as an effective tool to stop smoking, and as a way to circumvent smoke-free laws by allowing users to "smoke anywhere." Often the ads stress that e-cigarettes produce only "harmless water vapor."

But in their analysis of the marketing, health and behavioral effects of the products, which are unregulated, the UCSF scientists found that e-cigarette use is associated with significantly lower odds of quitting cigarettes. They also found that while the data are still limited, e-cigarette emissions "are not merely 'harmless water vapor,' as is frequently claimed, and can be a source of indoor air pollution."

The long-term biological effects of use are still unknown, the authors said.
In tackling the question of whether e-cigarette use is helping or harming the nation's tobacco control efforts, the authors analyzed 84 research studies on e-cigarettes and other related scientific materials.

They concluded that e-cigarettes should be prohibited wherever tobacco cigarettes are prohibited and should be subject to the same marketing restrictions as conventional cigarettes.

The paper is published May 12, 2014 in the American Heart Association's journal Circulation. ...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 113653.htm
 
And another report.

E-Cigarettes Help Smokers Quit

Trading smoke for vapor. Public health researchers are struggling to determine the best place for e-cigarettes in smoking cessation programs and within regulatory frameworks.

Puffing on a battery-powered, electronic cigarette to satisfy nicotine cravings could help longtime smokers quit their tobacco addiction. The evidence supporting that claim has been thin in the past, but researchers have now reported that adults in England who used the devices were 60% more likely to remain smoke-free than those who turned to nicotine patches or went cold turkey. Some public health researchers, though, still worry that’s not enough to cancel out the negative effects of e-cigarettes, which might keep other smokers hooked on nicotine or prevent them from seeking out more effective ways to quit.

“This is an important study because, until now, the data on quitting smoking with e-cigarettes has been mostly anecdotal,” says Neal Benowitz, a physician at the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF), who studies tobacco addiction and was not involved in the work.

E-cigarettes produce a nicotine-rich vapor that’s free of many of the toxins and carcinogens that make tobacco cigarettes so unhealthy. Their popularity has skyrocketed since they hit the market in the early 2000s; a 2012 survey found that 30% of adult smokers in the United States had tried e-cigarettes. But studies attempting to establish both the risks and benefits of the devices have had varied conclusions.

One recent review of the scientific literature, which included Benowitz as an author, reported that smokers who used e-cigarettes were less likely to quit smoking than those who didn’t use the devices. The results were based on broad surveys of all smokers, however, not just those attempting to quit. Another paper concluded that e-cigarettes are about as effective as nicotine patches at helping people stop smoking. ...
http://news.sciencemag.org/brain-behavi ... okers-quit
 
Surely it depends on whether you regard the use of e-cigarettes as 'smoking' - which it obviously isn't since there is no smoke. I know at least two ex-smokers who now use e-cigarettes exclusively.

It seems to be one of those unstoppable changes like people using hands-free mobile phones when driving. (I don't, but virtually every businessman I know does.)

People setting up against this kind of technical change are only going to end up looking silly.
 
Two questions regarding electronic cigarettes.....

The claim is that they are less harmful because they lack tar and the carcinogens associated with it, but what do they do with your blood pressure? Normal cigarette smoking is a trigger for raised BP, is vaping?

Supposedly there is no smell from electronic cigarettes either around your person or on your clothes but are you still prone to "smoker's breath"? It's still a chemical going in your mouth after all.
 
There's no tar and, as far as I'm aware, no carbon monoxide. It's the niccotine that gives cigs whatever kick they have. The manufacturers add sometimes add some flavour and there are chemicals to make 'smoke'. Think of smoking a very small disco smoke machine. I don't think that they give you smokers breath.
 
are E-Cigs safe ?

Are You sure ?
 
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This is getting out of hand.

E-cigarettes may act as ‘gateway’ to illicit drugs

E-cigarettes designed to help people quit smoking may act as a "gateway" to harmful illicit drugs, researchers have said.

Like conventional cigarettes, the devices are said to raise the risk of addiction to banned substances such as cannabis and cocaine.

Scientists pointed out that while eliminating many of the toxic compounds found in tobacco, e-cigarettes delivered highly addictive “pure nicotine”.

In mice, nicotine was found to alter brain biochemistry and prime the animals to develop a need for cocaine.

Analysis of human data suggested it had the same effect in people, with cocaine addiction rates highest among former cigarette smokers. “Our findings provided a biological basis for the sequence of drug use observed in people,” US neuroscientist Professor Eric Kandel, who conducted the research with his wife, Dr Denise Kandel, said.

“One drug alters the brain’s circuitry in a way that enhances the effects of a subsequent drug.”

Writing in the New England Journal of Medicine, the married couple from Columbia University, New York, warned: “E-cigarettes have the same physiological effects on the brain and may pose the same risk of addiction to other drugs as regular cigarettes, especially in adolescence during a critical period of brain development.

“We don’t yet know whether e-cigarettes will prove to be a gateway to the use of conventional cigarettes and illicit drugs, but that’s certainly a possibility.

“Nicotine clearly acts as a gateway drug on the brain, and this effect is likely to occur whether the exposure comes from smoking cigarettes, passive tobacco smoke, or e-cigarettes.” ...

http://www.irishexaminer.com/world/e-ci ... 84805.html
 
I don't smoke anything these days, but the demonisation of the e-cig really has gone past ridiculous now and into something else I don't even know the word for.
 
Which was said here a week ago or more

E-cigarette criticisms 'alarmist' say researchers

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29061169

Warnings over e-cigarettes are alarmist - and increasing their use could save many lives, researchers have said.

For every million smokers who switch to e-cigarettes, more than 6,000 lives a year could be saved, according to the University College London team.

Meanwhile another group of London-based experts has attacked criticism of e-cigarettes as "misleading".

Last week the World Health Organization called for e-cigarette use to be banned in public places and workplaces.

The WHO said this was because they could increase the levels of some toxins and nicotine in the air.

Its report also warned about the risk of e-cigarettes acting as a gateway by which non-smokers might start smoking real cigarettes.

But the UCL team said the numbers of non-smokers using e-cigarettes amounted to less than 1% of the population, according to the Smoking Toolkit study, a monthly survey of smokers in England.
 
A new method of assassination. People will think the e-cig explosions are accidental.
 
The number of liquid nicotine poisoning cases has jumped in the last year with the soaring popularity of electronic cigarettes.

Sales of e-cigarettes are expected to rocket in the coming weeks with people kicking their smoking habit as part of new year resolutions. Parents have been warned the nicotine refills for the vapourised cigarettes are highly dangerous to children.

E-cigarettes contain small tanks of liquid nicotine, but the refills can be poisonous to children — particularly if ingested.

While mild cases of nicotine poisoning in children causes vomiting, sweating, and dizziness, more severe cases can result in convulsions, irregular heartbeat, and affect the central nervous system.

There has been a spike in the number of e-cigarette poisonings presented at the Poisons Centre in the Beaumont Hospital in Dublin, from eight cases in 2013 to 25 cases up to the end of September 2014. ...

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/poisoning-cases-rise-blamed-on-e-cigs-305111.html
 
A new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration's Center for Tobacco Products reveals that the use of electronic cigarettes tripled among middle and high school students between 2013 and 2014. ...

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/292561.php

Well, perhaps in the long term they will ban electric cigs...the real ones will still be legal though :rolleyes: as long has your old enough to smoke them...its a crazy world!
 
Well, perhaps in the long term they will ban electric cigs...the real ones will still be legal though :rolleyes: as long has your old enough to smoke them...its a crazy world!

But think of all of the exploding ecigs, its like Scanners.
 
I've seen a few people with these e-cigs. The thick oily smoke they produce looks horrid. Can't believe they're better than fags in any way. (And most places, or means of transport, ban them anyway.)
 
US researchers have found that three in four e-cigarettes use a flavoured liquid that has been linked to severe respiratory disease.

E-cigarettes are battery-powered devices that heat a nicotine-containing liquid, which is inhaled much like a cigarette.

Unlike traditional cigarettes, the devices are not regulated by US authorities, leading to concern among some experts that they may be harmful to health.

There are also concerns that their candy and fruit flavours may appeal to youths and put them at risk of addiction.

For the study in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, scientists at Harvard University tested flavours that may appeal to young people such as Cotton Candy, Fruit Squirts and Cupcake.

They found that 75% of tested samples contained diacetyl, which when inhaled has been linked to the respiratory disease bronchiolitis obliterans.

The condition is sometimes called "popcorn lung" because over ten years ago it was discovered in workers who inhaled artificial butter flavour in microwave popcorn processing facilities.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1209/752289-e-cigarettes/
 
A new study finds diacetyl in e-cigarettes but exaggerates risks and fails to discuss about smoking

By Dr Farsalinos

As you all know, I have a strong opinion against the use of diacetyl and acetyl propionyl in e-liquids. In the study we published last year, we made this clear and we analyzed the potential risk from the use of these compounds at high levels (basically, when used as ingredients, or are present as contaminants but at high levels). We emphasized the fact that none should deliberately add these compounds in e-liquids and tests should be conducted to detect potential sources of contamination. All these are, in my opinion, responsible measures to avoid this unnecessary exposure. However, we also presented literature data that tobacco cigarette smoke contains high levels of diacetyl and acetyl propionyl, on average 100 and 10 times higher compared to our samples respectively.

Another study was just published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, by researchers from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. They evaluated the presence of diacetyl, acetyl propionyl and acetoin in 51 cigarette-like products of different flavors. They found at least 1 of the chemicals in 92% of the samples, with 76% containing diacetyl. The authors recommend urgent action to evaluate the extend of diacetyl exposure from e-cigarettes.

Although I agree that we should know if e-liquids contain diacetyl and acetyl propionyl, I must note that the study has missed some very important points. One is the assessment of the levels found in their samples. The levels presented in Figure 2 are quite low, much lower that what we found in our study. ...

http://www.ecigarette-research.org/research/index.php/whats-new/whatsnew-2015/236-da2
 
Obliterans sounds like a bad word.

I thought so too.:rofl:

Your post reminded me of a very early Simpsons episode when Homer tries to buy a mobile home. The salesman types in his details and a huge red lamp starts flashing accompanied by a screaming siren.

"Is that good?" asks Homer
"Have you ever known a siren to be good?" is the reply.
 
Scientists warn e-cigarettes could cause cancer

Wednesday, December 30, 2015
E-cigarettes could be “no better” than smoking regular cigarettes, according to a new study.

And scientists warn the vapour from the electronic devices was shown to damage or even kill human cells during lab tests.

The research comes as UK public health officials and Prime Minister David Cameron backed the use of e-cigarettes to help people quit smoking.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/examvi...n-e-cigarettes-could-cause-cancer-373674.html
 
Somehow, I knew this would happen.
 
E-cigarettes could be “no better” than smoking regular cigarettes, according to a new study.

And scientists warn the vapour from the electronic devices was shown to damage or even kill human cells during lab tests.
I'm not surprised. The thick oily smoke they produce looks like it could feature in a horror movie!
 
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