Because you, 'Captain Morals', once talked me into handing stuff over in the metal detector thread if I ever found anything good! .. and she really liked that domino. So it's all your fault.I'm not sure why Swifty's Mrs being pissed off at him is my fault!
Hunt for the Arctic Ghost Ship
http://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/dqjyp8/hunt-for-the-arctic-ghost-ship
It will probably be on 4oD later.
Yes, I just watched it on 4oD. I must have seen it before, because some parts were familiar, but other parts seemed new. Probably just my ancient memory, but it was worth seeing again anyway.
Dozens of ancient shipwrecks found accidentally during Black Sea mapping
Dozens of shipwrecks, the first of their kind seen from bygone empires, have been a "complete bonus" discovery for researchers mapping the Black Sea.
The international team of scientists came across more than 40 wrecks while surveying the seabed near Bulgaria to understand how quickly land in the area was inundated following the last ice age 20,000 years ago.
"The wrecks are a complete bonus, but a fascinating discovery, found during the course of our extensive geophysical surveys," Professor Jon Adams, lead investigator on the Black Sea Maritime Archaeology Project, said.
The centuries-old wrecks, including ships from the Byzantine and Ottoman empires, provide the first view of vessels previously known only through historical sources.
Most other wrecks from these time periods have decomposed due to having sunk in shallower waters.
But the Black Sea discoveries can be seen with their upper decks still intact, with some ships' masts still standing and rigging in place.
Professor Adams said these wrecks were "astonishingly preserved" due to the lack of oxygen in the Black Sea below 150 metres. ...
Mystery as wrecks of three Dutch WWII ships vanish from Java seabed
There are fears the sunken vessels off Indonesia, which are the graves of 2,200 people, may have been salvaged for metal
HNLMS Kortenaer, which was sunk in the Battle of Java in 1942 Photograph: Royal Netherlands Navy / Koninklijke Marine / Wikipedia
Oliver Holmes South-east Asia correspondent and agencies
Wednesday 16 November 2016 05.27 GMTAn international investigation has been launched into the mysterious disappearance of three Dutch second world war shipwrecks which have vanished from the bottom of the Java Sea off the coast of Indonesia.
The Netherlands defence ministry has confirmed that the wrecks of two of its warships which sunk in 1942 have completely gone, while large parts of a third are also missing.
The wrecks were first found intact by amateur divers in 2002. But a new expedition to mark next year’s 75th anniversary of the Battle of the Java Sea discovered the ships were missing.
While sonar shows the imprints of the wrecks on the ocean floor, the ships themselves are no longer there.
The ministry said in a statement: “The wrecks of HNLMS De Ruyter and HNLMS Java have seemingly gone completely missing. A large piece is also missing of HNLMS Kortenaer.”
All three ships sunk during the Battle of the Java Sea, which turned out to be a disastrous defeat for Dutch, British, American and Australian sailors by Japanese forces in February 1942. It was one of the costliest sea battles of the war and led to the Japanese occupation of the entire Dutch East Indies.
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About 2,200 people died, including 900 Dutch nationals and 250 people of Indonesian Dutch origin, and the wrecks have been declared a sacred war grave.
“An investigation has been launched to see what has happened to the wrecks, while the cabinet has been informed,” the defence ministry said. “The desecration of a war grave is a serious offence,” it added, suggesting the wrecks may have been illegally salvaged.
The seas around Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysia are a graveyard for more than 100 ships and submarines sunk during the war. For years, scavengers have surreptitiously located the wrecks and stolen parts, including steel, aluminium and brass.
A recreational diving school in Malaysia told the New Straits Times last year that shipwrecks were being blown apart by with explosives by people posing as fishermen before their metal is removed.
The US military found two years ago that there had been an “unauthorised disturbance of the grave site” of the USS Houston, which sunk in the Battle of Sunda Strait, also in the Java Sea. It is the grave for nearly 650 sailors and marines.
Theo Vleugels, director of the Dutch War Graves Foundation, told the ANP news agency: “The people who died there should be left in peace.”
AFP contributed to this report
It surprises me that it is economic to acquire scrap metal this way. And surely someone would have noticed it going on?
The primary source of low-background steel is ships that have been under water since before the Trinity test, most famously the scuttled German WWI battleships in Scapa Flow. [1]
I've heard the same about old lead. But, yes a clever logistic feat, that somehow has gone unnoticed by the world's surveillance satellites.Because of when the ships were sunk, they would be more than just scrap metal. The steel in the ships would be uncontaminated by radioactivity and is needed in the production of equipment that needs low background radiation to work. That might make it worth the effort to recover but how did they do it unnoticed?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel
Boat wrecked off US in 2014 found on Scottish island
The barnacle-covered wreck of a catamaran abandoned during a rescue off the US east coast three years ago has been found on a Hebridean beach.
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The four crew members of the Be Good Too were rescued by the US Coastguard 300 miles (482.8km) off the coast of Virginia on 14 January 2014.
The boat came ashore on the west side of South Uist on Monday.
Be Good Too left a marina in Jersey City bound for the Virgin Islands, when its crew encountered stormy weather.
The crew was airlifted to safety by a coastguard helicopter.
South Uist-based photographer JF Martin found the wreck on the beach.
Former crew member, sailor Charles Doane, has blogged that he "couldn't believe it at first" when he was told the boat had been found.
He said the owner of Be Good Too had died in past three years.
Image captionUpturned wreck of catamaran Be Good Too on South Uist
Image captionThe boat was found on Monday
First images of sunken Scapa Flow warship HMS Vanguard released
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Image copyrightBOB ANDERSON/HMS VANGUARD EXPEDITION 2017/PA
The first images of a warship sunk in 1916 off Orkney have been released after divers were given special permission to visit the wreck.
HMS Vanguard exploded and sank at Scapa Flow with the loss of 843 lives.
Safeguarded under the Protection of Military Remains Act 1986, diving is not permitted at the site except under licence from the MoD.
A team of specialist divers aboard Orkney dive boat MV Huskyan were given permission.
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Emily Turton, of MV Huskyan, said: "The main wreck is complicated with an extensive debris field.
"Surprisingly, given the nature of her loss, both the bow and stern are intact despite large pieces of wreckage having being thrown hundreds of metres away.
"It is accepted that the likely cause of the disaster was an accidental magazine explosion.
"Witness accounts on the night of her loss describe a large explosion immediately behind the bridge. We can reveal that our initial survey result supports this."
Image copyrightBOB ANDERSON/HMS VANGUARD EXPEDITION 2017/PA
A report will now be compiled for the MoD, Historic Environment Scotland, Orkney Marine Services and other interested organisations.
Ms Turton added: "The purpose of this survey is to tell the story of HMS Vanguard at 100 years underwater.
"We also hope to offer a sensitive contribution to the centenary commemoration in July this year."
Scapa Flow was used in both world wars as a main harbour for the British Navy.
It surprises me that it is economic to acquire scrap metal this way. And surely someone would have noticed it going on?
And unless the salvage vessel is HUGE, they could hardly process the scrap on board. But if they did it would have to be taken ashore to be sold...
The logistics seem so improbable that I prefer to think that some alien collector has beamed the ships away to some museum of Warfare on Earth, on Proxima Centauri, perhaps!
Could be a small coaster or supply vessel, or even a fishing boat (there's a hint of a Fishing Number on her side).We've just stumbled upon this link, I didn't know anything about this shipwreck off Cromer's coast. The St. Mark ... it looks military to me ? .. we can't find anything out about it online yet ..
.. and a cigar Rynn .. thank you very much ! ..Could be a small coaster or supply vessel, or even a fishing boat (there's a hint of a Fishing Number on her side).
But here's the answer (found using DDG, not Gargle!):
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St. Mark
ex-Grimsby trawler GY.210 was converted into an Oil Rig Support Vessel ( LT.327)
Built as the CAPTAIN FOLEY in 1960 by John Lewis & Sons Ltd, Aberdeen; Yard No: 294; Launched: Tuesday 24th May 1960; Registered: Tuesday 5th June 1962; Forecastle: 28 feet; Official Number: 302523. Call Sign: GHFA; Original owners: Iago Steam Trawler Co Ltd, London, No LO.33;
March 1972 became BOSTON TRISTAR and registered as GY.210;
In August 1976 bought by Colne Shipping Co Ltd, Lowestoft;
In October 1976 vessel renamed ST. MARK and registered as LT.327;
In 1980 vessel converted to an Oil Rig Support Vessel;
Fate: Sank following a collision with Vikingbank. The ST. MARK was later located off the north Norfolk coast in the vicinity of Cromer.
http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?70574
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That's a bottle of whisky you owe me!
Unknown wreck of German boat found in Scapa Flow
- 28 April 2017
Image copyrightSIMON BROWN/DEEP3D.CO.UK
Image captionExperts have created a three dimensional image of the sunken wreck
A previously undocumented German wreck has been discovered in Scapa Flow.
The vessel is believed to be a pinnace - a small boat which would have acted as a supply boat for larger ships.
It is likely to have gone down with its parent ship when the German High Seas Fleet was scuttled in 1919, following the end of World War One.
A team from Orkney diving boat MV Valkyrie came across the wreck after an unexpected object was picked up on sonar equipment.
Diver Simon Brown expected to find a lump of anti-torpedo boom net.
Instead he discovered a German vessel which has lain undiscovered for almost 100 years.
Skipper Hazel Weaver told BBC Radio Scotland: "There's lots of piles of steel boom netting dumped after the First World War and the Second World War in Scapa Flow and we assumed it was a pile of that."
Image captionThe boat was discovered by the crew on board the MV Valkyrie
She said Mr Brown offered to investigate the discovery and he was in the water for about an hour.
"He took a lot of photos and came back up very, very excited," she added.
Ms Weaver said they had not come across similar vessels previously, so they consulted Kevin Heath of local diving services firm Sula Diving.
"He identified it as a motor pinnace, or diesel pinnace, from the German High Seas Fleet," she said.
"It's a remarkable discovery, especially to find such a wreck even with all the brass works still in tact."
Image captionThe wreckage of the German vessel was picked up by sonar equipment
More than 50 German ships sunk to the bottom of Scapa Flow on 19 June 1919.
Most were removed from the water after the war but local people say seven remain on the sea bed.
Ms Weaver said there are still a lot of artefacts to be discovered below the surface of the water and experts are using sonar to survey the area.
"More are being found all the time," she said. "Other operators in Scapa Flow are also looking for these smaller items because they represent a slice of history that is more or less being forgotten now."