Krepostnoi
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Don't know what you mean *innocent face*So good he said it twice!
Don't know what you mean *innocent face*So good he said it twice!
But strangely, the duplicated text has disappeared!Don't know what you mean *innocent face*
Sorry, I'm only teasing. In all seriousness, thank you for pointing out the duplication.But strangely, the duplicated text has disappeared!
Allen appeared to be ruled out as a suspect when DNA was collected from the envelope of one of the Zodiac letters in 2002, which was the subject of an ABC TV special. The DNA profile created from that genetic material was not a match for Allen or several other suspects.
The best, most complete resource for Zodiac Killer information around is ZodiacKiller.com. Its webmaster, Tom Voigt, has kept Zodiac sleuths up to date on every new development in the case for over 15 years. In a post to the site's message board, Mr. Voigt confirms that the material collected from the envelope in 2002 to create the Zodiac DNA profile wasn't collected in a manner that could guarantee it came from the killer.
"The partial DNA profile that was obtained back in 2002 by Dr. Cydne Holt for the ABC television show 'Primetime Thursday' was collected from the outside of the stamp," Mr. Voigt wrote. "No genetic material was obtained from behind the stamp, or the seal of the envelope, or anywhere else that would have most certainly belonged to the Zodiac." (emphasis his)
Voigt got the news from "a retired SFPD inspector," and he then confirmed the information with Dr. Holt. Apparently Dr. Holt was clear about which parts of the envelope the DNA was collected from, but that was lost in the editing process for the ABC special. The DNA profile built from that genetic material could have been from a postal employee or anyone else who handled the envelope in its journey, not necessarily the killer.
It would now appear that Arthur Leigh Allen and other suspects thought to be disqualified can once again be considered viable suspects. Allen in particular remains one of the most intriguing. Keep an eye on happenings at the Zodiac Killer site for more updates on this.
Don't know if this is true, but it seems an interesting lead:
DNA evidence that was used to disqualify a number of Zodiac Killer suspects appears to be in error.
Don't know if this is true, but it seems an interesting lead:
DNA evidence that was used to disqualify a number of Zodiac Killer suspects appears to be in error.
unazod ? that cipher solution is very uncompelling
you seem to have a good grasp of such gibberish
He needs to get laid. That aside, that's some impressive deciphering.Zodiac killer code cracked by Australian mathematician Samuel Blake more than 50 years after first murder
Key points:
A deciphered section of the code
- At least five people were killed by the Zodiac killer in the 1960s, but the killer's identity is not known
- The serial killer sent letters to San Francisco Bay Area newspapers including a code that came to be known as the 340 cipher
- Dr Blake worked with US-based David Oranchak and Belgium-based Jarl van Eycke to crack it
I HOPE YOU ARE HAVING LOTS OF FUN IN TRYING TO CATCH ME
THAT WASNT ME ON THE TV SHOW
WHICH BRINGS UP A POINT ABOUT ME
I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE GAS CHAMBER
BECAUSE IT WILL SEND ME TO PARADICE ALL THE SOONER
BECAUSE I NOW HAVE ENOUGH SLAVES TO WORK FOR ME
WHERE EVERYONE ELSE HAS NOTHING WHEN THEY REACH PARADICE
SO THEY ARE AFRAID OF DEATH
I AM NOT AFRAID BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY NEW LIFE IS
LIFE WILL BE AN EASY ONE IN PARADICE DEATH
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12...-cracked-by-australian-mathematician/12977342
If accurate, it's kind of interesting that only one word is misspelled - and what that word is.
(Punctuation I think you can possibly ignore – apart from maybe full stops, it’s quite often entirely done away with in basic codes.)
The language used is fairly simple - almost uniformly so. However, 'because' is a word that bad spellers often have a problem with, and I suspect that 'afraid' and 'having' are in that area, too. However, the writer does not seem to have a problem with any other word apart from 'paradise'.
Deliberate misdirection by intentional misspelling and poor grammar is always a possibility - but, if there was deliberate intent, it would be odd to choose just a single element, and at first I wondered if this was a case of a writer simply having a mental block in regard to one word, which is not uncommon, even for people with good language and grammar skills.
However, if this is a genuine communication from the actual killer and represents a genuine message from that individual (ie they actually believe what is written in the message), then it seems to me that the writer intends to convey an idea that they have considered and developed over some time, rather than on a whim. In such circumstances it is not unlikely that the individual in question will have fed their beliefs with some sort of external information - film, TV, literature. It's odd - certainly in terms of literature - that a word so central to the killer's narrative (in fact, the whole point of it) and so essential to the elucidation of his ethos, would be so poorly taken in as to be uniformly misspelled in future discussion.
I don't have a conclusion to this. I just find it odd - it doesn't sit right with me somehow.
(There’s also a possibility that rather than an original misspelling, this represents a glitch in the code.)
Edit: I also wonder if the apparently nonsensical penultimate line could be the result of a crypto-typo: 'that' = 'what'.
Zodiac wasn’t renowned for his spelling prowess. ln an early coded communication, for example, he wrote that killing people was “...more fun than killing wild game in the forrest because man is the most dangeroue anamal of all to kill.”
maximus otter
According to GNIS, the community has been known in the past by four different names or spellings: Leonards Mill, Poverty Ridge, Pair-O-Dice, and Paradice.[1]
A legend persists that the town was named because it was the home of the Pair o' Dice Saloon, an idea supported by a 1900 railroad map referring to the town as Paradice. However, no documentation has been found to prove the establishment existed, nor an explanation of the spelling of the town's name on the map.[8]
Was this the technique used in that short lived TV show where a previously uncracked cipher was decoded?
@Frideswide
I can't recall the title but it was about 3 years ago. They had a team who visited the crime scenes and reanalysed the clues. The big breakthrough was in the last episode where they cracked one of the cyphers. Then the show ended abruptly.