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nothing says "rape and sexual assault" more than a wealthy man in a position of power to me, those are precisely the sorts of men who are most likely to indulge their worst urges, not least of all because they feel they can get away with it, and generally speaking, given their positions, they can
what is the basis for this i wonder
 

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Without getting into politics, I was a bit taken aback while drinking me tea to see that Alex Salmond has just been charged with thirteen different counts of various forms of sexual assault (including two of attempted rape). There's also a charge of breaching the peace, which I doubt he's thinking about very much.

Innocent until proven guilty, but still a bit of shock to see him charged--he always came across as a rather jovial chap.
Don't be fooled by his public persona - I've met him twice; he's an arrogant twat full of his own self-importance.
 

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Sorry Swifty but nothing says "rape and sexual assault" more than a wealthy man in a position of power to me, those are precisely the sorts of men who are most likely to indulge their worst urges, not least of all because they feel they can get away with it, and generally speaking, given their positions, they can. They may also feel that given how wealthy and powerful and "important" they are, that they deserve "it". The worst demographic of people I've met have been the wealthy, a disproportionate amount have been vile, arrogant cunts who treat the rest of humanity as their underlings.

I'm not saying every wealthy or powerful person id like that or that all such men are rapists, nor do I deny that some men in positions of power might be targets due to their wealth, it's just that the financially privileged have the highest amount of cuntitude in any group I've encountered. Again, there are people like that in all walks of life and a subset of the poorest can be abhorrent too.

Just because Assange is a "freedom of information" hero doesn't mean he isn't a rapist, I'm not saying he is one, just that we simply don't know and never will.
I agree with every word and will add that it's about power.

Even a small amount of power, such as being the one who decides whether the new secretary is suitable, can go to some men's heads and make them think they have Droit de Seigneur or whatever it is.

I was personally subjected to this type of harassment at work and elsewhere along with most of my friends and colleagues for years.

We learned to spot the dirty bastards from afar. They were usually the jovial family men whom nobody would suspect of sleaziness. It's all an act. Politicians' second nature.
 

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Sorry Swifty but nothing says "rape and sexual assault" more than a wealthy man in a position of power to me, those are precisely the sorts of men who are most likely to indulge their worst urges, not least of all because they feel they can get away with it, and generally speaking, given their positions, they can. They may also feel that given how wealthy and powerful and "important" they are, that they deserve "it". The worst demographic of people I've met have been the wealthy, a disproportionate amount have been vile, arrogant cunts who treat the rest of humanity as their underlings.

I'm not saying every wealthy or powerful person id like that or that all such men are rapists, nor do I deny that some men in positions of power might be targets due to their wealth, it's just that the financially privileged have the highest amount of cuntitude in any group I've encountered. Again, there are people like that in all walks of life and a subset of the poorest can be abhorrent too.

Just because Assange is a "freedom of information" hero doesn't mean he isn't a rapist, I'm not saying he is one, just that we simply don't know and never will.
We're on the same page except you excluded that part from my post when quoting me Ogred where I also wrote that people (let's not be politically correct here, it is mostly men) abuse positions of power through sexuality .. no arguments from me there : "some wealthy men in positions of power act like teenage boys" is the bit you left out that I wrote that you've somehow left out. I'm not a rape or sexual assault apologist, abuse on this level is real and so is people playing on the fear of abuse in our current times to falsely claim they've been abused. The authorities will hopefully do their jobs properly and find out the truth and justice will be done.
 

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The authorities will hopefully do their jobs properly and find out the truth and justice will be done
as they do for burglars and aggravated assaulters also, not always as easy to spot from afar as sexual predators

recent uk stats from national statistics
 

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while a lot of rape/sex assault scenarios are clearly predicated on exertion of power, it strikes me that those who in their daily lives feel lacking in power/voice/attention etc would be more liable to succumb to this type of scenario

tangenting ... i feel that road-rage/driving-harassment is generally also a symptom of people who feel they have little or no control over any other aspect of their lives, until they get in a car and exert power instantly by driving like a lunatic, vying for attention, securing a needed response, etc
 

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as they do for burglars and aggravated assaulters also, not always as easy to spot from afar as sexual predators

recent uk stats from national statistics
There's so many factors, it's mind boggling. All I know (and firmly still believe) is that any time a woman reports that's she's been sexually assaulted or raped, she has to be taken seriously and her allegation has to be investigated. I was accused of rape once, and arrested for it .. worst day of my life and I still haven't recovered from it even though I wasn't charged. One thing I was determined not to become after that was a woman hater. I remember phoning my Dad, scared shitless and he told me after a deep sigh "She's probably accused men before .. " .. he was uncannily correct, I later found out I was number 2 of 3 .. "Now I need you to listen to me, you're scared so naturally you're going to want to tell everybody you know what's just happened to you but don't and I can't stress that enough. I'll put you onto your Mother." ..

My big Sister phoned me later that day: "Mum's just told me about that woman .. what a fucking bitch" .. my ex phoned me and was just as angry about what was happening to me, that was the weird thing to me, I was expecting all women I knew to start being distant or worse but it was actually some of the men I knew who started being different with me .. the women, not even just my only family members were rock solid steady about it, I was an absolute wreck.

The woman told so many provable lies that I wasn't even charged or taken to court. My only residual anger isn't with her but with the legal system who then didn't decide to 'bust' her instead for wasting police time.

I refuse to hate all women just because of her, she's not getting that as well.
 

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malicious false reporters do get prosecuted, occasionally to custodial, a few local cases i am aware of ... difficult though clearly

these cases are ugly from every angle ... youve stayed strong
 

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I believe having power over another person (or any living thing for that matter) can be intoxicating and addictive, whether it comes from a president of a country or a teenage babysitter.

Getting someone to do as you say, especially when they don't want to, has an immense effect on the one giving the orders.

When your Granny said "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" she wasn't wrong.
 

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I believe having power over another person (or any living thing for that matter) can be intoxicating and addictive, whether it comes from a president of a country or a teenage babysitter.

Getting someone to do as you say, especially when they don't want to, has an immense effect on the one giving the orders.

When your Granny said "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" she wasn't wrong.
Being put in authority in my experience is more often a case of 'less is more' .. the mods here will probably consent to that angle unless they have no choice .. giving someone high authority who isn't ready for it is like putting a teenager on a high powered motorbike, it's not going to end well without maturity.
 

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This response (posted under 'insanepeople' on Reddit) is also WTF? worthy.

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A male nurse has been arrested on suspicion of rape after a woman who has been in a coma for 14 years gave birth last month.

Phoenix Police announced that Nathan Sutherland, 36, who was employed at the Hacienda HealthCare centre in Phoenix, Arizona, was arrested today after his DNA "matched the baby".

Chief Jeri Williams said the hospital worker was responsible for caring for the patient during the time she was sexually assaulted.

Police said Sutherland was a licensed practical nurse and had worked at the facility since 2011.
 

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I agree with every word and will add that it's about power.

Even a small amount of power, such as being the one who decides whether the new secretary is suitable, can go to some men's heads and make them think they have Droit de Seigneur or whatever it is.

I was personally subjected to this type of harassment at work and elsewhere along with most of my friends and colleagues for years.

We learned to spot the dirty bastards from afar. They were usually the jovial family men whom nobody would suspect of sleaziness. It's all an act. Politicians' second nature.
You can draw straight line between ethics and seniority in almost every enterprise 'on average'.
 

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Yep, I've looked at the fan forums and found no answers either, but I did see that post with the Grandmother claim!

cf. that weird phase in Ever Decreasing Circles where Ann keeps saying things three times. Is she supposed to be having some sort of breakdown? Is there a hidden occult significance to this? Is it an in-joke amongst the writers? ;)

Nobody knows ...
Andy, I have taken endeavours to a 'Scots Language' forum - surely an explanation therein?

Not so far, the apparent phrase, 'in the windae boxes', remains a puzzle.

However, this has been highlighted and may crucially be a pointer in the right direction.

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That was only yesterday, so hopefully some further elucidation might yet be forthcoming!
 

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Michigan couple and their 19-month-old daughter were removed from an American Airlines flight after the airline told them that other passengers and crew members had complained about their body odor.

Yossi Adler said he and his wife, Jennie, were heading home from a vacation in Miami on Wednesday night when they were told there was an emergency and they needed to exit the plane.

Full Story:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...dy-odor-american-airlines-20190125-story.html
Not available in Europe. Bah! I could get all high-techy and pretend to be from somewhere else. Actually, I probably couldn't!
 

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... I suspect Jack's little ditty may be one of those comedy mysteries that was created to be deliberately unsolvable, along with whatever's in Alan's drawer at the Travel Tavern.
In the absence of further evidence to the contrary... and given no trace of any such song (even though, as mentioned, someone recalls her Granny singing it...), I believe you may be shockingly close to the truth here.

One response to my inherent query to the Scots Language forum - they have close to 5,000 subscribers, so if they've all never come across a related song, seems the following conclusion is reasonable:

"I think it's mibbes jist a bit of nonsense. Nae meaning ataw. But it gets folk wunnering!".


Well done, sir.

Duly awarded one of Scotland's finest honours, 'A pat on the heid and a Mars bar'.


Deep fried, of course...
 

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That’s The Second Coming with an immaculate conception ruled out in this case then. I reckon it took about half an hour to solve this case at the end but the gestation period is nine months. The really weird thing is nobody noticed this timelapse taking place.
Please may I point out AGAIN that the doctrine of Immaculate Conception has no relation to the conception and birth of Christ. It is His mother, Mary whose conception was considered "immaculate" (only from the 19th century onwards, due to the visions of St Bernadette Soubirous)). Mary's conception to Elizabeth was immaculate as she was conceived without the taint of original sin (not without sexual intercourse) in order to be a suitable vessel for Christ. Jesus is both wholly human and wholly divine in one person, conceived by the action of the Holy Spirit on His mother.
 

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You may point it out but according to wiki...

In Christian theology, the Immaculate Conception is the conception of the Virgin Mary free from original sin by virtue of the merits of her son Jesus. The Catholic Church teaches that God acted upon Mary in the first moment of her conception, keeping her "immaculate".
How does this not involve Jesus?
 

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In the absence of further evidence to the contrary... and given no trace of any such song (even though, as mentioned, someone recalls her Granny singing it...), I believe you may be shockingly close to the truth here.

One response to my inherent query to the Scots Language forum - they have close to 5,000 subscribers, so if they've all never come across a related song, seems the following conclusion is reasonable:

"I think it's mibbes jist a bit of nonsense. Nae meaning ataw. But it gets folk wunnering!".


Well done, sir.

Duly awarded one of Scotland's finest honours, 'A pat on the heid and a Mars bar'.


Deep fried, of course...

Some good detective work there, but it does look like the mystery must be laid to rest.

I wonder if the song / rhyme might be something peculiar to Kiernan's immediate family and he just dropped it in while semi-improvising in readthroughs / rehearsals?

I doubt we'll ever know.
 

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Had a couple of interviews come up in the last week with large food manufacturers, one of them owns a number of household name brands, I always research prospective employers on companies house and have a look at their last set of accounts.

One has made 32million losses in the last year they filed which is worse than the year before, the other has made the UK company dormant while their US parent company picks up their losses.

Apparent reason is rising raw material costs while buying power of supermarkets is holding prices down.

Quite disturbing when you get into thinking about it, our zombie economy, where an awful lot of what we eat isn't actually viable to make for any length of time. Something has to give there.
 

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Fucking great ..

Three bottles of vodka have gone missing within the last three days from the Mrs's work place, her boss has just sent her a pm asking if she has any ideas where they could be. I don't think he's accusing her or anything, the place has been back open to the public for the last three days so other staff have been there .. the only thing is, she phoned me last night because the place was dead so I popped down to see her for about 20 minutes. Unless these bottles have been put somewhere else, I've got a couple of gut instinct ideas about who could have nicked them. Her boss doesn't know I popped in last night, I've told the Mrs that if he asks she's to tell him I did. I'm paranoid now they might think it was me even though it wasn't :mad:
 

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Fucking great ..

Three bottles of vodka have gone missing within the last three days from the Mrs's work place, her boss has just sent her a pm asking if she has any ideas where they could be. I don't think he's accusing her or anything, the place has been back open to the public for the last three days so other staff have been there .. the only thing is, she phoned me last night because the place was dead so I popped down to see her for about 20 minutes. Unless these bottles have been put somewhere else, I've got a couple of gut instinct ideas about who could have nicked them. Her boss doesn't know I popped in last night, I've told the Mrs that if he asks she's to tell him I did. I'm paranoid now they might think it was me even though it wasn't :mad:
I so hate shit like that. :O Worst thing about a thief is every bugger ends up being a suspect.
 

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You may point it out but according to wiki...



How does this not involve Jesus?
I didn't say it didn't involve Jesus. Jesus was conceived by Mary via the Holy Spirit while she remained virgin. BUT Jesus' conception is NOT The Immaculate Conception - it was a conception by the Holy Spirit upon a human woman. The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception is the belief that Mary herself was conceived "immaculate" to her parents Joachim and Anne, i.e. without the stain of human sin and is the only human being to have been so conceived. So Mary may be referred to as "Immacuate Conception" as one of her titles; Bernadette Soubirous, later St Bernadette of Lourdes, told her interrogators that her vision of Mary told her this, saying, "I am the Immaculate Conception". The phrase does not refer to Jesus' own conception, although people often assume it does.
 

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But Jesus was an immaculate conception as well?
 
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