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The lost land of Thule: A legend melts away

Joanna Kavenna International Herald Tribune
Tuesday, February 15, 2005

OXFORD, England Another melancholy gathering of climate scientists presented evidence this month that the Antarctic ice shelf is melting - a prospect difficult to imagine a decade ago. Not to be upstaged, climate change skeptics also held a conference in Britain, arguing that the dangers of climate change had been grossly exaggerated.

It may be many years before we know exactly what is happening right now to our planet's climate, and why. But after traveling extensively through the planet's northernmost regions, it seems clear to me that our sense of our power over the natural world has changed forever.

I journeyed from Scotland through Norway, Iceland, Greenland and to Svalbard, mostly in search of the land of Thule - the most northerly place of the ancient world. Thule was an early traveler's yarn, a tall tale about a northern land near a frozen ocean, draped in mist. In the fourth century BC, Pytheas the Greek claimed to have seen it. But his account was lost, and Thule was never identified with any certainty again.

From Pliny to Pope to Edgar Allen Poe, from Strabo to Shelley to Charlotte Brontë, Thule was used to evoke the pallor and purity of the ice, the mysteries of the far north. Columbus claimed he had found Thule, as did the British explorer Richard Burton and the Norwegian explorer Fridtjof Nansen.

In modern times, the legend of Thule has given way to a complex story. In the 20th century the most northerly places were mapped by explorers with sledges and planes. The far north became a battlefield during World War II, and in the 1950s the U.S. Air Force established Thule Air Base in northern Greenland, so that bombers could fly across the North Pole to Moscow. The Arctic Ocean became a dumping ground for the nuclear pollution of the Russian Northern Fleet.

Now there are tours running across the far north, cruises along the coasts of Greenland, voyages to Arctic archipelagos. You can fly to the North Pole for champagne on the ancient ice. For all of this, the Arctic wilderness is still beautiful, breathtaking in its vastness. But as I traveled through it, I realized that something fundamental is changing in our relation to the world's frozen places.

In early times, the far north was imagined as a place lying between the worlds of gods and men. Herodotus wrote about the Hyperboreans, an immortal tribe living beyond the north wind, supping with the gods, inviting Apollo round for a dance and dinner. Thule was a land beyond the reach of humans, a place entwined with the outlandish - unipeds, the seven sleepers, a great whirlpool at the Pole, the ocean's navel.

Even the modern explorers, as they struggled across the ice, knew that nature was formidable, that they could do nothing to change the laws of frost and snow. Some of their best ideas were about submitting to the forces of nature - allowing their ships to become trapped in the ice that drifts around the Pole, hoping they would be drawn northward.

Now humans can fundamentally alter the balance of elements, thaw an ice shelf or two, set in progress a chain of reactions that will melt the frozen ocean. We can't stop the reactions once they begin, but we can definitely start them. All the remoteness of the far north can't save it from a shift in global temperature.

The scientists make one sort of argument, about the physical effects and their practical consequences. This is necessary and important. But as I journeyed through the frozen north, I encountered something less tangible, something about our guardianship of the dreams of successive civilizations, the myths of our planet. Tread softly because you tread on my dreams, that sort of thing.

There can be no more significant symbol of the loss of Thule - and all the dreams that came with it, all the beauty and strangeness - than the melting of the polar ice. It might be speculation, to be disproved at a later stage; the forecasts of these climate scientists might be mocked by later generations as one more theory of the ignorant. The question that kept running through my head as I wandered through the north, sifting the ideals of lost civilizations, was how we could be so crazy as to risk it. And I kept imagining a time when the frozen ocean and all the creatures that lived in it would be nothing more than fairy tales, stories from a vanished world.


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(Joanna Kavenna is the author of the forthcoming book ‘‘The Ice Museum: In Search of the Lost Land of Thule.’’ )

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I guess Thule was also a primary motivator for occult Nazism, as in the Thule Society?

http://www.crystalinks.com/thule.html

National Socialism and the Third Reich represented a major attempt by high esoteric Adepts to re-establish a Culture based on the Laws of Nature, against the entrenched forces of anti-Life. Nothing that ambitious had been tried since the founding of the American Republic by Masonic adepts.

The Thule Society inner circle beliefs ...

Thule was a legendary island in the far north, similar to Atlantis, supposedly the center of a lost, high-level civilization. But not all secrets of that civilization had been completely wiped out. Those that remained were being guarded by ancient, highly intelligent beings (similar to the "Masters" of Theosophy or the White Brotherhood).

The truly initiated could establish contact with these beings by means of magic-mystical rituals.

The "Masters" or "Ancients" allegedly would be able to endow the initiated with supernatural strength and energy.

With the help of these energies the goal of the initiated was to create a race of Supermen of "Aryan" stock who would exterminate all "inferior" races.

I think that Thule was also influencial on Madam Blavatsky....
 
A weird weird site on Thule:

http://www.thule.org/

HUMANS HAVE BEEN LIED TO ABOUT ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING...
The jerk they called the "lord", who sat inside the "pillar of smoke" and told the "chosen ones" to go kill other people in Old Testament times, was definitely NOT the CREATOR of this Universe.

THULE Makes Mincemeat of Mensa KEY

Distracting Trivia

Are we beings inhabiting bodies?
Or
Descended From Apes?

MARS COLLISION WITH ASTRA
CATASTROPHIC MOUNTAIN UPLIFT
REALVIDEO of "ALTERNATIVE THREE"
AIDS is germ warfare "THE STRECKER MEMORANDUM"
STOPPING THE COMING ICE AGE
DID WE REALLY GO TO THE MOON???

IT'S ALL
DOWNHILL
FROM HERE

1. Anybody that eats rotting flesh has little chance to become Light

LUCIFER/SA-TAN

ARYANS

LOOK Magazine 1955 Nazi/Canadian UFOs

BILLY MEIER'S FAMOUS "SAUCERS ON A STRING"

ANTARCTIC SNOW CRUISER 1939 BYRD EXPEDITION

1947 BYRD EXPEDITION - OPERATION HIGHJUMP

RealVideo of "THE SECRET LAND"

Author's note

ORIGINS

LEMURIA


"damned and banned" they came to Earth
BOOK OF ENOCH
Human/Geologic Evidence of Lake Titicaca

DETAILED TIAHUANACO

CULTURE DURING THE ICE AGES
Cartoon

YUGAS

The Party is over the data is in!

SPACE SHUTTLE
SECRET SOCIETIES
 
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This recently published and lengthy article in Smithsonian Magazine provides an updated overview of Thule legend and scholarship, with particular regard to German scholars' 2010 claim that Thule had to have been the Norwegian island of Smøla (as well as the eternal and ongoing debates).
THIS NORWEGIAN ISLAND CLAIMS TO BE THE FABLED LAND OF THULE

Residents of Smøla believe they live in the northernmost location mentioned in ancient Greek and Roman literature. Other contenders say not so fast. ...

The debate received a jolt, though, in 2010 with the publication of a study out of the Technical University of Berlin. The authors, two geodesists (geodesy is a branch of applied mathematics focused on maps and measurements), an expert in the study of Greek and Latin texts, and a historian of science, took an innovative approach. They began with the famous map of the oikoumenē—the ancient Greek name for the inhabited world—drafted by the second-century CE geographer Ptolemy. Although the map was sophisticated for its time, its coordinates were problematic, partly because of deficits in Ptolemy’s understanding of projection, partly because of errors in measurements of distances. The German team addressed the problems through reconstructionist geodesy, a method of detecting the errors accurately and correcting them systematically. The novel approach led to a solution striking in its precision. And to a happy, if surprising, outcome for everyone who favored Norway. Thule, according to the team, almost certainly must be the island of Smøla, a locale farther to the south than any of the Norwegian islands that had been on the longlist of contenders.

FULL STORY: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/trav...and-claims-to-be-fabled-land-thule-180975740/
 
Looking at the map, Smøla seema an odd choice. Not far from land and not even north compared to the surroundings. Svalbard or Lofoten would seem likelier.
 
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