Thylacines (Post-1936 Sightings)

PeteByrdie

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The Zanzibar leopard was recently re-discovered. Zanzibar is much smaller than Tasmania with a much larger human population.
True, but the Zanzibar leopard had only been considered extinct since the 90s.
 

Paul_Exeter

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It happens on our overpopulated island, too.

2006: A cryptozoologist in Devon is widely ridiculed for suggesting the pine marten is still present in the county and the wider South of England despite being presumed 'functionally extinct' in England:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smaller-Mystery-Carnivores-Westcountry/dp/1905723059

2016: Pine martens found in Devon:

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/pine-marten-devon-rare-found-3009872

... and not just Devon:

https://www.forestryengland.uk/blog/the-return-pine-martens-englands-forests
 

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It happens on our overpopulated island, too.

2006: A cryptozoologist in Devon is widely ridiculed for suggesting the pine marten is still present in the county and the wider South of England despite being presumed 'functionally extinct' in England:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smaller-Mystery-Carnivores-Westcountry/dp/1905723059

2016: Pine martens found in Devon:

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/pine-marten-devon-rare-found-3009872

... and not just Devon:

https://www.forestryengland.uk/blog/the-return-pine-martens-englands-forests
Me and a work colleague both saw a pine marten while on delivery in Northwood,Middlesex in the early 2000’s. He had stopped to chat to me in the van and as we were talking a pine marten came walking along the pavement.
I strongly suspect it had escaped from somewhere as it showed no fear of us. It actually came towards me within a couple of feet then just carried on walking.
 

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Me and a work colleague both saw a pine marten while on delivery in Northwood,Middlesex in the early 2000’s. He had stopped to chat to me in the van and as we were talking a pine marten came walking along the pavement.
I strongly suspect it had escaped from somewhere as it showed no fear of us. It actually came towards me within a couple of feet then just carried on walking.
I think Lord Mongrove as a zoologist might be the best person to provide insight into your experience, however as the pine marten is nocturnal can you be certain it wasn't a stoat...?

https://www.vwt.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/MustelidLeaflet.pdf

I say this as my understanding is that pine martens are difficult to keep in captivity and require a large wooded enclosure:

https://zoolex.org/gallery/show/898/

"The Otter Center set itself a goal of exhibiting native Mustelidae species and their habitats. An existing forested area with trees of varying sizes was selected for the pine marten exhibit.

Two individuals are held because pine martens are aggressive and territorial toward others of their species. Sometimes establishing permanent pairs is successful.

Pine martens have a need to move around a lot. Small enclosures therefore can result in behavioral problems such as stereotypic movements. Therefore, the pine marten enclosures at the Otter Center have large surface areas and are structurally complex. They are enclosed by 4-meter high wire mesh fences with 2.5 x 2.5 cm openings. Electrical wires along the interior perimeter prevent animal escapes.

A wooden boardwalk for visitors runs along the upper edge of the perimeter fence. Visitors can access the boardwalk using a ramp located on the east side or stairs located on the north and west sides of the exhibits. The boardwalk extends around both exhibits. A circular path on ground level offers views with a different perspective into the enclosures from the west side and opportunities for interactive play.

Staff can access the service area via a corridor under the boardwalk and double doors. It is here that windowed nest boxes and the electrical supply for the electric wires are located. Tunnels in the maintenance room allow to connect the outdoor enclosures.
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I have seen wild stoats during the day and you can get surprisingly close to them
 

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I think Lord Mongrove as a zoologist might be the best person to provide insight into your experience, however as the pine marten is nocturnal can you be certain it wasn't a stoat...?

https://www.vwt.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/MustelidLeaflet.pdf

I say this as my understanding is that pine martens are difficult to keep in captivity and require a large wooded enclosure:

https://zoolex.org/gallery/show/898/

"The Otter Center set itself a goal of exhibiting native Mustelidae species and their habitats. An existing forested area with trees of varying sizes was selected for the pine marten exhibit.

Two individuals are held because pine martens are aggressive and territorial toward others of their species. Sometimes establishing permanent pairs is successful.

Pine martens have a need to move around a lot. Small enclosures therefore can result in behavioral problems such as stereotypic movements. Therefore, the pine marten enclosures at the Otter Center have large surface areas and are structurally complex. They are enclosed by 4-meter high wire mesh fences with 2.5 x 2.5 cm openings. Electrical wires along the interior perimeter prevent animal escapes.

A wooden boardwalk for visitors runs along the upper edge of the perimeter fence. Visitors can access the boardwalk using a ramp located on the east side or stairs located on the north and west sides of the exhibits. The boardwalk extends around both exhibits. A circular path on ground level offers views with a different perspective into the enclosures from the west side and opportunities for interactive play.

Staff can access the service area via a corridor under the boardwalk and double doors. It is here that windowed nest boxes and the electrical supply for the electric wires are located. Tunnels in the maintenance room allow to connect the outdoor enclosures.
"

I have seen wild stoats during the day and you can get surprisingly close to them
It was definitely a pine marten ,significantly bigger than a stoat and the man I was talking to recognised it as a pine marten straight away.
 

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De-extinction: scientists are planning the multimillion-dollar resurrection of the Tasmanian tiger.[url]

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The thylacine, also known as the Tasmanian tiger, is the second undertaking by Colossal, a Texas-based biotechnology “de-extinction” company that last year announced it planned to use genetic engineering techniques to recreate the woolly mammoth and return it to the Arctic tundra.


Its new project is a partnership with the University of Melbourne, which earlier this year received a $5m philanthropic gift to open a thylacine genetic restoration lab. The lab’s team has previously sequenced the genome of a juvenile specimen held by Museums Victoria, providing what its leader, Prof Andrew Pask, called “a complete blueprint on how to essentially build a thylacine”.
(C) The Guardian. '22.
 
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