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Time Or Dimensional Slips

Some just put this up on a local group. Unfortunately most people are taking the p. I remember reading another weird one about the tunnel somewhere. View attachment 81468
It is explainable - fiction. Is this from Reddit by any chance? A goodly percentage of the stories linked from there I reckon are fiction.

In this case she was transported to pre 2014 yet was photographed by ANPR cameras which weren’t there then. I'm raising an eyebrow..
 
It is explainable - fiction. Is this from Reddit by any chance? A goodly percentage of the stories linked from there I reckon are fiction.

In this case she was transported to pre 2014 yet was photographed by ANPR cameras which weren’t there then. I'm raising an eyebrow..
Depends where at happened and where the cameras are. I’ve had a look on street view and it looks like the cameras are further back than the booths were. Although then the booths would suddenly appear. I’m not saying it’s not made up but I know weird stuff can happen.
 
He doesn't explain whether the driving to dance college was a regular event or a one-off - was she going for the first time? 20 would be quite old to be starting at dance college... and this surely wouldn't be their first ever visit, if she was at college he must have taken her before, surely? So how did he get there before if he didn't know about the tolls? Did they usually go a different route and for some reason HAD to use the toll route this time for the first time in years?
 
He doesn't explain whether the driving to dance college was a regular event or a one-off - was she going for the first time? 20 would be quite old to be starting at dance college... and this surely wouldn't be their first ever visit, if she was at college he must have taken her before, surely? So how did he get there before if he didn't know about the tolls? Did they usually go a different route and for some reason HAD to use the toll route this time for the first time in years?
Yes, as always there are lots of 'danglers' (my terminology for questions you want to ask).

I have only ever used the Dartford Crossing once, probably about 5 years ago. If I had driven through it a few days before reading this and had experienced the same thing, I expect I would probably have thought something like "oh, the tollbooths are still operating? I thought it was all done by cameras and online payments.... maybe they still use the tollbooths sometimes. Oh, well, I better find some coins...."

I suppose if you see the tollbooths there in front of you, you wouldn't question it. If the driver hadn't used them before, or at least not recently, I guess they would just accept it.

I wonder if everything else looked normal. Did the other cars going through the booths look older than they would expect? Not that you would necessarily notice them if you were concentrating on getting your payment sorted and getting through the barrier and on your way.

Did the guy who took their money speak, and interact with the driver normally?

Like @MorningAngel, I'm not saying it's not made up, but I know weird stuff can happen. And it does seem like a bit of a 'meh' thing to make up. Is the driver just trying to wriggle out of paying their fine? Funny way to go about it if they are.
 
There was a recent case in India of a gang who set up their own toll booths so it's not unfeasible
I'm imagining that maybe that was just one roadside booth type thing with some kind of improvised barrier? A sort of 'pop-up, now-you-see-it, now-you-don't' type thing?

It would be hard to do that kind of malarkey on the Dartford Crossing. But I suppose not impossible.
 
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I'm imagining that maybe that was just one roadside booth type thing with some kind of improvised barrier? A sort of 'pop-up, no-you-see-it, now-you-don't' type thing?

It would be hard to do that kind of malarkey on the Dartford Crossing. But I suppose not impossible.
I agree, another explanation is a misplaced memory, who knows or will ever know
 
It is explainable - fiction. Is this from Reddit by any chance? A goodly percentage of the stories linked from there I reckon are fiction.

In this case she was transported to pre 2014 yet was photographed by ANPR cameras which weren’t there then. I'm raising an eyebrow..
if so, at least it is original fiction, not a hint of Tom Slemen and not a Native American burial ground in sight...!

One flaw in his narrative is that in the video the toll booths had those honesty buckets where you chucked in your cash as the toll booth guy scowled at you (sort of thing) yet he states he handed the money to the toll booth man.

I think misplaced memory. He may have had another, older daughter who also went to that dance class on occasions.
 
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if so, at least it is original fiction, not a hint of Tom Slemen and not a Native American burial ground in sight...!

One flaw in his narrative is that in the video the toll booths had those honesty buckets where you chucked in your cash as the toll booth guy scowled at you (sort of thing) yet he states he handed the money to the toll booth man.

I think misplaced memory. He may have had another, older daughter who also went to that dance class on occasions.
That's a fair point nearly every toll booth I have been through have the buckets there is a private one in Cheshire where you pay the bloke, not knowing anything of that part of the world perhaps the tunnel had collectors at one point, however I doubt that they would have been wearing a hi viz jacket back in the day
 
if so, at least it is original fiction, not a hint of Tom Slemen and not a Native American burial ground in sight...!

One flaw in his narrative is that in the video the toll booths had those honesty buckets where you chucked in your cash as the toll booth guy scowled at you (sort of thing) yet he states he handed the money to the toll booth man.

I think misplaced memory. He may have had another, older daughter who also went to that dance class on occasions.

They had the throw in buckets at the same time as manned booths.

They could well have had hi viz 2000s until they went.
 
They had the throw in buckets at the same time as manned booths.

They could well have had hi viz 2000s until they went.
Sorry, that is what I meant. In that video he chucks his cash in the bucket but you can see the high viz toll booth staff there as well, otherwise I guess nobody would pay.

Is it just possible the ANPR was down during 2020 and a back-up plan of temporary tolls was is place? He mentions the high viz guy and the barrier but not the actual line of toll booths as you approach
 
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Sorry, that is what I meant. In that video he chucks his cash in the bucket but you can see the high viz toll booth staff there as well, otherwise I guess nobody would pay.

Is it just possible the ANPR was down during 2020 and a back-up plan of temporary tolls was is place? He mentions the high viz guy and the barrier but not the actual line of toll booths as you approach
Would that be possible? I mean getting people in to work and setting up the booths at very short notice? If our ANPR machines are down in our local car park they just lock the barriers open and make it free for the duration.
 
Would that be possible? I mean getting people in to work and setting up the booths at very short notice? If our ANPR machines are down in our local car park they just lock the barriers open and make it free for the duration.

Yes. They never went back to people. It wouldn’t work without the barriers that are gone.

Interestingly taking out the barriers has not made traffic any better. Idiots still forget how to drive and crash into people and end up blocking up the whole town. They wouldn’t block up the whole town if the lorries on the M25 didn’t come up on the last roundabout before the tunnel just to go down again. Blocking local traffic and ignoring the box junction. Rant over.
 
I often wonder if the world isn’t as solid and real as we believe and is built of what we expect. For example I was in bed one time listening to my watch ticking by my ear before I realised I haven’t had an analog watch for years and then it stopped. Maybe they saw the booths because that’s what they expected to see.
 
I often wonder if the world isn’t as solid and real as we believe and is built of what we expect. For example I was in bed one time listening to my watch ticking by my ear before I realised I haven’t had an analog watch for years and then it stopped. Maybe they saw the booths because that’s what they expected to see.
Even if he was making the crossing for the first time in years (I can just about allow that), surely the daughter would have remarked at the time? If she's at the college, she must have done the journey several times (even if she hadn't started at the college yet, surely they visited and, as I said before, 20 is a bit old to be going to dance college for the first time), why did SHE not say 'we didn't pay tolls last time, it's all done with cameras'?
 
They said they were going to London didn’t they? Well that’s a funny way to go to get there, unless the Blackwall tunnel was out of action or something and that’s why they were using the Dartford tunnel. If that’s the case they may never have gone that way before.
 
They’ve turned up on a Facebook group I follow. Lots of questions being asked. Although they think you come back through a tunnel which you don’t, the bridge is the way back. Unless the bridge is closed. Maybe the got stuck in the time slip.

I think I’ve mentioned it on the mandala thread but I (and some other people) remember the commemoration stone at the start of the bridge saying July on it which it never did. It didn’t even open in July.
 
They said they were going to London didn’t they? Well that’s a funny way to go to get there, unless the Blackwall tunnel was out of action or something and that’s why they were using the Dartford tunnel. If that’s the case they may never have gone that way before.
That is such a good point. No one uses the QE2 bridge to go to London. It goes both north to south and visa versa and the bridge is well east of London anyway.

If they were coming from the north they would have used the A13 and if they were coming from the south they would have used the A2. It's very rare coming from the south that the Dartford Tunnel is out of action and if it was when coming from the south there's always the Woolwich Ferry or the Rotherhithe Tunnel or at a stretch Tower Bridge.
 
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They’ve turned up on a Facebook group I follow. Lots of questions being asked. Although they think you come back through a tunnel which you don’t, the bridge is the way back. Unless the bridge is closed. Maybe the got stuck in the time slip.

I think I’ve mentioned it on the mandala thread but I (and some other people) remember the commemoration stone at the start of the bridge saying July on it which it never did. It didn’t even open in July.
Are you able to share which group?

If this was a regular or familiar route then they would have know ANPR was in operation, so it must have been an occasional trip or first time journey.

@MorningAngel you make a great point, the whole premise of time-slips is that the impossible happens to ordinary folk and without invitation or warning. In that sense, this case is no different to the chapswho was driving in London and then suddenly everything changed around him, he was driving on cobbled streets and a tram nearly collided with him. Then, just as suddenly, he was back in his time again.

So if this was a time-slip it is a great one in terms of being multiple-witness but not so great in that it is reliant on memory (and a payment reminder) rather than sensing anything odd at the time.
 
Are you able to share which group?

If this was a regular or familiar route then they would have know ANPR was in operation, so it must have been an occasional trip or first time journey.

@MorningAngel you make a great point, the whole premise of time-slips is that the impossible happens to ordinary folk and without invitation or warning. In that sense, this case is no different to the chapswho was driving in London and then suddenly everything changed around him, he was driving on cobbled streets and a tram nearly collided with him. Then, just as suddenly, he was back in his time again.

So if this was a time-slip it is a great one in terms of being multiple-witness but not so great in that it is reliant on memory (and a payment reminder) rather than sensing anything odd at the time.

It is a private group so you have to join to see it.
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That is the Dr Ann Whisper group. She was investigating Liverpool time-slips before our mate Tom Slemen arrived on the scene. Fancy dropping her message to ask her thoughts about the Frank Bold Street case?
Has she not visited here? I’m not keen on private messaging people.

It’s such a shame TS had muddied the waters so much. Now I doubt anything that comes out of Liverpool and there obviously was enough for her to investigate before.
 
It's a fascinating subject but it's one we will never get to the bottom of, all the reports are kind of semi believable I mean who doesn't want to believe in some form of time travel, but they all lack that certain something, what I want to see is someone from the past meeting someone who was quite obviously from the future
 
They said they were going to London didn’t they? Well that’s a funny way to go to get there, unless the Blackwall tunnel was out of action or something and that’s why they were using the Dartford tunnel. If that’s the case they may never have gone that way before.
We just came back from London via the Dartford Bridge as the Blackwall tunnel was out of action (and well as many roads for the very ‘helpful’ car free day) but it’s the only time I remember come from London that way.
 
It's a fascinating subject but it's one we will never get to the bottom of, all the reports are kind of semi believable I mean who doesn't want to believe in some form of time travel, but they all lack that certain something, what I want to see is someone from the past meeting someone who was quite obviously from the future
That's true. It's interesting how time only seems to flow one way. Could it be that the past has actually happened and the future relies on choices that are yet to be made?

Of course, this would not explain how an acquaintance of mine had recurring childhood dreams about a church in a faraway country, with an architectural style that is not found in the UK. He had these dreams in the 70s and the church was not built until the 2000s. When he showed me his old drawings, they matched the church exactly. (However, the church's design is fairly generic for that country. There is more to the story that might be significant, but it is a very LONG story, and I am not entirely convinced of this acquaintance's credibility. Perhaps something to share another time)

The other question is what would an "obvious" denizen of the future look like? Would they be clad in a strange reflective spacesuit? There have been a few sightings of people like that.

I wish I could find this story, which I think was originally on Reddit (so of course, take with a pinch of salt...) A young child is in the car with their mother and they drive past a supermarket. The child is intrigued, wondering where the supermarket came from. When they pass the same spot later, the supermarket has become fields again. Years down the line, the fields are built over and a supermarket is built on that location.
 
It's a bit like stories about ghosts. They can tweak curtains, slam doors and maybe impart a few bits of pointless information, but it would be far more credible if a ghost appeared and said 'look, I've only got seconds, but you might like to know that death isn't so bad, my name is Frank Thurslow and I died on February 27, 1972'. Time slips would be more credible if someone managed to grab something from a slip and bring it back with them (even a blade of grass ought to be testable, surely?) or there was some written testimony from someone in the past (a diary entry or something) that tallied with someone from the present falling back through time.

This is why I suspect (or do I hope it?) that it's more like alternate dimensions touching rather than 'real' time slippage.
 
It's a bit like stories about ghosts. They can tweak curtains, slam doors and maybe impart a few bits of pointless information, but it would be far more credible if a ghost appeared and said 'look, I've only got seconds, but you might like to know that death isn't so bad, my name is Frank Thurslow and I died on February 27, 1972'. Time slips would be more credible if someone managed to grab something from a slip and bring it back with them (even a blade of grass ought to be testable, surely?) or there was some written testimony from someone in the past (a diary entry or something) that tallied with someone from the present falling back through time.

This is why I suspect (or do I hope it?) that it's more like alternate dimensions touching rather than 'real' time slippage.
I suppose we could argue that poltergeists are ghosts that aren't some sort of memory playback and can communicate. Poltergeists have in fact made claims to having had a life and identity (a French Prince, the old man who died in the chair etc.) but this can never be proven beyond doubt.
 
I suppose we could argue that poltergeists are ghosts that aren't some sort of memory playback and can communicate. Poltergeists have in fact made claims to having had a life and identity (a French Prince, the old man who died in the chair etc.) but this can never be proven beyond doubt.
But poltergeist claims are always filtered through a human, rather than coming from the ghost's own mouth.
 
It's a bit like stories about ghosts. They can tweak curtains, slam doors and maybe impart a few bits of pointless information, but it would be far more credible if a ghost appeared and said 'look, I've only got seconds, but you might like to know that death isn't so bad, my name is Frank Thurslow and I died on February 27, 1972'. Time slips would be more credible if someone managed to grab something from a slip and bring it back with them (even a blade of grass ought to be testable, surely?) or there was some written testimony from someone in the past (a diary entry or something) that tallied with someone from the present falling back through time.

This is why I suspect (or do I hope it?) that it's more like alternate dimensions touching rather than 'real' time slippage.
Excellent points and questions that don't seem to be asked by many people, however I sort of believe that many ghost sightings and timeslips are one and the same, the timeslip being a more fully filled apparition for example there was a story of someone saying they saw a woman standing at the sink washing up dressed in old fashioned clothes, why would a ghost do that? Are we presuming the woman is condemned to a life in the here after washing the dishes? Or was it a partial timeslip. I know which explanation I prefer, if you start looking at many ghost sightings they do look like partial timeslips

I often wonder if the people living in the other world are aware of the interloper from this world, verifiable two way conversation would be the gold standard in Timeslips
 
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