In the year 2000 and left in 2008when did you work there
No i had never encountered that image while working in the park and no the image is nowhere within the park whatsoever.We both know what we saw on that day.so had you ever encountered the image you linked above while working there, is that photo to be found anywhere in the buildings etc
Were there any stories that circulated among the ground staff? Fortean ones, I mean.No i had never encountered that image while working in the park and no the image is nowhere within the park whatsoever.We both know what we saw on that day.
That's an interesting idea. There usually is a very definite line of demarcation between the time slip area and that in normal time and I can't recall any case where the witnesses remained still and the zone passed over them, as it were.I found it timely to re-post this (from the four famous time slips thread):
CuriousIdent said:
Most time slip experiences, I agree, do feature a subject moving or entering a place or position where things begin to change around them. They may not notice it a first, but there could well be some kind of theoretical line crossed into (and out of) the timeslip.
But not all.
The example of the story above is more like (for want of a better analogy) a weather event. Like a cloud of rain passing over. Those involved did not move. The time slip event passed over the area, rather than their passing into it.
So in this case, it seems that Kev wandered into (and out of) the time slip experience by crossing some sort of invisible border containing the experience itself. Kev, could you roughly describe where you were when the experience both begun and ended? Coordinates from google maps would be incredible if you're able to -- just go here and then right-click a place and choose "What's here?" and then you'll see a little information box appear along the bottom where you can copy the coordinates.
Is the center area what you call the arena?
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I can't recall any case where the witnesses remained still and the zone passed over them, as it were.
Here's one such case: https://forums.forteana.org/index.php?threads/time-or-dimensional-slips.13755/page-24#post-1722370
And Kev, when you've a spare half hour I suggest reading the four famous time slips thread in it's entirety. It's a fortean treasure trove.
I don't think the French hotel case, and certainly not Versailles, have been "pretty well debunked." The other two are pretty weak, admittedly.But all 4 of those have been pretty well debunked.
is that true ?That's an interesting idea. There usually is a very definite line of demarcation between the time slip area and that in normal time ...
... the test of that would be the ability to physically move into and out of the affected zone ... rather than an effect which came and subsequently passed ...
The Bold Street story about Sean the shoplifter - the lad who reportedly slipped back into 1967 while dodging a security man who was chasing him - said that, when he reached the "now" end of the street and looked back down it, he could still see "1967" going on in the distance.That's a good point. Off hand, I don't recall any time slip storylines claiming the 'other-time' was encountered more than once, much less fluctuating back and forth between 'other-time' and 'now-time'.
All the ones that come to mind involved a single slip with a variable length of time spent in the 'other-time' condition.
There are two well known and fairly dramatic cases that do give fairly specific descriptions of the entry and exit process. The Liverpool case of Sean, a shoplifter who allegedly escaped from a pursuing security guard by travelling back to 1967: After wandering around in a panic he suddenly found himself back in the present, but when he glanced back people in the next street were still dressed in 60s clothing. The other, the Leeds case where two sisters looking to buy cigarettes entered a newsagents. The second one gave a warning to watch out for a customer examining magazines near the door, but as she did the first sister passed through the customer who faded away. They found themselves alone in a dark and cold shop which rather unnerved them and they quickly exited. After a few seconds they re-entered, and found it was now full of customers and brightly lit. When they approached the shop assistant in confusion, she backed away, clearly frightened. I have been trying to locate that lady, who may have been the wife of the shop's owner, Mr Taheris, because she would hopefully have seen the witnesses entering the shop and (I presume) fading away after walking through the customer near the door. As you say, this would clearly establish the process as external to the witness (in a sense).is that true ?
the test of that would be the ability to physically move into and out of the affected zone ... rather than an effect which came and subsequently passed
and the implication would be that the cause was almost certainly, or largely, external rather than internal to the experiencer
I see you beat me to it with this one!The Bold Street story about Sean the shoplifter - the lad who reportedly slipped back into 1967 while dodging a security man who was chasing him - said that, when he reached the "now" end of the street and looked back down it, he could still see "1967" going on in the distance.
I have been trying to locate that lady, who may have been the wife of the shop's owner, Mr Taheris, because she would hopefully have seen the witnesses entering the shop and (I presume) fading away
No luck so far -- I am hoping that someone who lives in Leeds and sees this might try visiting the shop (no longer a newsagents) and asking what happened to the previous owner, Mr Taheris. I got no reply to a letter asking if they could forward a letter to him. It would be hard, I think, to explain over the phone about time slips and how important it would be to get that lady's information!Please do!!!
This is a very interesting case. I have been waiting for another Leeds case, having been a bit obsessed with the classic "One thing Leeds to Another" incident, where two sisters had a very weird experience in a newsagent in Roundhay Road. I managed to contact one witness, learned that the other was already dead, and then she too stopped replying to my emails -- not a good sign. There doesn't appear to be any interest in time slips amongst the local paranormal groups, and I'm sure there must be other slips waiting to be discovered.
I found it timely to re-post this (from the four famous time slips thread):
CuriousIdent said:
Most time slip experiences, I agree, do feature a subject moving or entering a place or position where things begin to change around them. They may not notice it a first, but there could well be some kind of theoretical line crossed into (and out of) the timeslip.
But not all.
The example of the story above is more like (for want of a better analogy) a weather event. Like a cloud of rain passing over. Those involved did not move. The time slip event passed over the area, rather than their passing into it.
So in this case, it seems that Kev wandered into (and out of) the time slip experience by crossing some sort of invisible border containing the experience itself. Kev, could you roughly describe where you were when the experience both begun and ended? Coordinates from google maps would be incredible if you're able to -- just go here and then right-click a place and choose "What's here?" and then you'll see a little information box appear along the bottom where you can copy the coordinates.
Is the center area what you call the arena?
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Many thanks for accepting me into your group,i do appreciate it.
Before you read this i would just like to add that i used to work here as a gardener
Last summer here in the UK my wife and I we were out for our walk in the countryside of Leeds and on our return from our trip we always cross over Roundhay Park and over the arena(This is where the concerts and other events are held)This time upon the arena coming into view we both witnessed what looked like steel framing and a smell of what seemed like gunpowder and the ground was damp,it was a hot day by the way.All the people had disappeared who were there sunbathing and we could see someone banging with a hammer on the framework.Everything around us seemed a little bit different,ie the trees were smaller and lake was visible through the framework whereas today the trees are thick and you wouldn't see the lake.
What you see in the link is what we both wittenesed and as we walked a bit further on the arena was then back to how it would look normally
I did a bit of research and came up with this http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIdentifier=200294_93156070&DISPLAY=FULL
I do hope that all this makes a bit of sense and we both know what we saw on that day.Many thanks
I hope that the link opens ok.
Edit:I just want to say many thanks for reading and understanding what i'm trying to say here as it all happened so quickly.Cheers
It was in one of the first time slip sites, Time slip 8888, which became defunct, and Naomi West unearthed it and put it on her site. I will give a link:I'm not sure I'm aware of that one Carl. Where did you come across it?
Not sure what you're getting at, but if you check out the link you will find that Naomi managed to save quite a few of these early (in internet terms) cases.source account contains nothing anachronistic ?
My initial assumption was that it was a time slip to a cold morning before the newsagent had started work (past or future). The alternative is a glitch in the Matrix kind of answer, i.e. the shop as a static image minus any of the customers or staff. When I mentioned this to Mandy, she said "It was a non place." Both sisters felt that whatever happened had been engineered to prevent some terrible accident involving them and the nearby bus stop. Interestingly, the lady, one of the older witnesses in the US case where they gave a lift to a young man late at night -- to them it was years in the past, to him the present -- felt that had the miracle not happened something awful would have happened to him. So in both of these cases where independent witnesses were allegedly involved, some of the participants sensed a purpose behind them.i suppose im saying its not a timeslip, as time was not a component of the account
That was my grandparents' local shops. They lived on Bankside St which runs onto that road - in the 1920s-1971. My dad will have known that shop in the 1930s. Like the back of his hand. He was born almost opposite Roundhay Park then from aged 5 or 6, they had a business just off the Roundhay Rd. My great grandad grew up on a farm at Roundhay. I will have been in these shops when I was a kid in the late 1960s. Although I have no specific memory of it. Great grt uncle was a stunt rider/horse-trainer and extra in early UK made cowboy films and I'm told he did a show stunt riding on Soldiers' Field, some time after WW1.No luck so far -- I am hoping that someone who lives in Leeds and sees this might try visiting the shop (no longer a newsagents) and asking what happened to the previous owner, Mr Taheris. I got no reply to a letter asking if they could forward a letter to him. It would be hard, I think, to explain over the phone about time slips and how important it would be to get that lady's information!
The image is the shop as it is today. The pdf shows the original shop and the location.