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stuneville said:
....Consider, if you will, the undeniable evidence:

1) Video taken by submersibles that have visited the wreck show that that The Titanic has not broken up but is in one piece; this means that the ship is water-tight.

No it isn't, it broke in half.

Stuneville, of all people I truly expected you to see the Big Picture:

There's obviously two separate civilizations down there, so near yet so far apart.

So there's now TWICE as much reason to send this fellow our cash!

Though if the ship is as airtight as this fellow seems to believe....why did it sink in the first place?
 
OldTimeRadio said:
Stuneville, of all people I truly expected you to see the Big Picture:

There's obviously two separate civilizations down there, so near yet so far apart.
So there's the Sternies and the, er, Bowies? It's like Lost, only slightly more believable!
 
Maybe we could make really big bucks by selling weapons to both sides.
 
Peripart said:
OldTimeRadio said:
Stuneville, of all people I truly expected you to see the Big Picture:

There's obviously two separate civilizations down there, so near yet so far apart.
So there's the Sternies and the, er, Bowies? It's like Lost, only slightly more believable!

Obviously the Bowies will greet the rescuers with "Scary Monsters, Super Creeps!".

The Sternies will just give dull readings from "Tristram Shandy".
 
ramonmercado said:
The Sternies will just give dull readings from "Tristram Shandy".
I'd rather rescue the Funnelies first - they sound like much better company!
 
stuneville said:
Bags me the Tiller Girls :D.

I can see why, Stu! They're a saucy looking bunch these days.

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Way hey! :wow:

Not bad for (on average) over 120, and living a mile underwater in totally dark freezingness!

They've made a grand job of that wrecked engine room, haven't they? That's Edwardian ingenuity at it's finest, that is :).
 
Do our putative underwater Titanic survivors live in utter darkness? The carbon monoxide from candles would have long ago killed everyone on board.

And how do they eliminate the carbon dioxide from the air?

What about drinking water? What is done with human waste?

I may not even want to know the answer to that last question.
 
You'd extract the methane from the human waste and burn it for energy (it produces much les CO2 than other sources) and then you'd use some kind of algae to extract the CO2. Tthe algae would be fed to the captive giant rats for meat which could then be served with nice helping of kelp for vitamins.

Fresh water could be produced through a simple condensation technique (run the incoming water through the condensation area - warming it prior to boiling) and then you'd heavily filter it to recycle it (possibly through the algae again).
 
The year is 2050. The earth a quiet place given back to the animals once the human race was ravaged by a manmade virus.

But whats this? The wreck of the titanic breaks the surface of the ocean, surging into the pristine air - its once twisted and rusted hull now reshaped into a parody of a submarine. The decendants of the original survivors steer the sub (powered via a crude nuclear reactor fed on radium from all the watch faces) to land and emerge blinking into the sunlight and begin to re-populate the earth.

Its about as likely.
 
Its an insult to recieve something as hopeless as this. Surely the Titanic craze was ten years ago and if he wants people to send in money to a bad and see through email scam then he should at least claim to be excavating Rosslyn chapel or something
 
Anyway everyone knows it was the Titanic's sister ship that sank and the real Titanic is on the dark side of the moon.
 
Mighty_Emperor said:
You'd extract the methane from the human waste and burn it for energy (it produces much les CO2 than other sources) and then you'd use some kind of algae to extract the CO2. Tthe algae would be fed to the captive giant rats for meat which could then be served with nice helping of kelp for vitamins.

Fresh water could be produced through a simple condensation technique (run the incoming water through the condensation area - warming it prior to boiling) and then you'd heavily filter it to recycle it (possibly through the algae again).

Using algae to filter air and water and raising crops hydroponically had occurred to me as well as utilizing glowing fungi as a light source.
 
liveinabin1 said:
Anyway everyone knows it was the Titanic's sister ship that sank and the real Titanic is on the dark side of the moon.
Yes, you could say that Titanic conspiracy theories have become an Olympic sport.

...sound of tumbleweed rolling across desert...


I'll get my coat.
 
This is to inform everybody that that the survivors originally still alive aboard the sunken liner TITANIC were rescued many decades ago by residents from the glassite-domed city of Atlantis, in which submarine metropolis they all still reside, chronologically very old but no more than early middle-aged in physiology.

Hey, it's easier to believe than the original story.
 
Nevertrust a letter with an excess of exlamation marks!!!!!!!!
 
I liked the "Night Gallery" episode where a fellow dressed in woman's clothes got into one of the Titanic's lifeboats to save his own worthless life . . . and got picked up years later by the Lusitania. Then the Lusitania sank, and off he floated again to be picked up by the Andrea Doria. :)

Come to think of it, wasn't Rod Serling's brother Robert Serling? And didn't he write "Something's Alive Aboard the Titanic"?

Anyway, one of my Quixotic hopes as a lad (along with finding a lost valley full of dinosaurs) was that someone would someday raise the Titanic. So the disappointing fact that she lies in two distinct pieces on the bottom was the first thing I latched onto when she was discovered. You'd think these hoaxers would get something right!

PS: Don't ride a ship of the White Star line with anyone named Violet Jessup.
 
Didn't this starnge email actually get published on the letters page of the Fortean Times last year at some point? I remember thinking "how bizarre..".
 
Australian billionaire Clive Palmer to build Titanic II

Mr Palmer says the Titanic replica will be a tribute to the men and women who built the original ship

Clive Palmer, one of Australia's richest men, has commissioned a Chinese state-owned company to build a 21st Century version of the Titanic.

The mining billionaire told Australian media that construction will start at the end of next year.

It would be ready to set sail in 2016.

The plan, he added, is for the vessel to be as similar as possible to the original Titanic in design and specifications, but with modern technology.

Mr Palmer told Australian media that he had signed a memorandum of understanding with CSC Jinling Shipyard to construct the ship.

"It will be every bit as luxurious as the original Titanic but of course it will have state-of-the-art 21st Century technology and the latest navigation and safety systems," he said in a statement.

The announcement comes just weeks after the centenary of the sinking of the ill-fated Titanic.

The vessel, the largest luxury ship in its time, struck an iceberg on its maiden voyage from Southampton to New York. It went down on 15 April 1912, leaving more than 1,500 people dead.

"Of course it will sink if you put a hole in it,'' Mr Palmer said in response to questions from reporters on whether the Titanic replica would sink.

The new vessel is scheduled to sail from London to New York in late 2016, if all goes as planned.

"It is going to be designed so it won't sink,'' he added. ''But, of course, if you are superstitious like you are, you never know what could happen.''

The cost of the construction is not known, a spokesman for Mr Palmer told Australian media.

The mining magnate from Queensland, who has strong business relations with China, has expanded into tourism. He owns a luxury resort on the Sunshine Coast and has plans to build a fleet of luxury liners.

His plan to build the Titanic replica was announced on the same day that he revealed plans, in a separate news conference, to contest the next federal election in Queensland.

He told reporters that he has expressed interest in standing for Queensland's Liberal National Party (LNP), part of the conservative opposition at federal level, in the Brisbane seat of Lilley - currently held by Deputy Prime Minister and Treasurer Wayne Swan.

Sounds cool and all, but how tainted is the Titanic name? I'd go see it in dry dock, but can't see that I would ever pay to take a sail in it. the stigma is just too large. A Titanic failure?
 
It will be perfectly safe, look how well the sister ships did.

And cruises are back in fashion.
 
Not sure what he means by "federal election in Queensland". I heard something about his ambitions, but I don't remember secession being part of it.

Still, how bad could it be? We all know that these multi-billionaire mining magnates are in touch with real values...
 
Kondoru said:
It will be perfectly safe, look how well the sister ships did.

And cruises are back in fashion.

Yes, they were all wonky and outdated when they were built apparently, just being up scaled versions of smaller more practical vessels.
 
Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water

Hi everyone,
I was a member of this board many years ago but I lost my details and I can't remember my login details or old email. I wanted to chat about juicy psychic claims and the supposed help they gave the police particularly the Yorkshire Ripper hunt, but got distracted by an article on the Titanic (another bugbear of mine!) that cropped up this evening:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... oraks.html

I fully expect my comment (redredwine) to be deleted by morning, so I'll post it here. Sadly, in an appalling quirk of journalism, Mr.Smith has been portrayed as a sad demented loon, while the miscreant, Mr.Crowe is depicted as a heroic vigilante. My reply is:

"I am very disappointed in the above article as it shows Mr.Crowe in a very favourable light and portrays Jon Smith as a loon. Fortunately I know both sides of the story and have been privvy, first hand, to the rantings of Mr.Crowe and his vendetta against Mr.Smith and his friends.

Jon has indeed spent a lot of money on his collection but rather than squirrel or squander it, he prefers to share his photos with the world via his Facebook account. To prevent theft of his images, he has watermarked them to prevent unauthorised copying.

This has incensed the group "Lovers of the Ocean Liners" who see it as their God given right to steal other people's property and pass it off at their own. Their leaders is a young man who has been banned from Facebook many times - some people say as many as 8 times - for stealing other people's images. He hides under the smokescreen of claiming to be "autistic" in the hope that this will let him off the hook. Other people - not just Mr.Smith - have decried the behaviour of the Lovers... group, and indeed Facebook has asked people to state their sources when posting up pictures.

However, this has not stopped Mr.Crowe. He has confused the issue by stating that Mr.Smith is claiming copyright on all instances of a photo, made at any time, any place. This is not the truth, Smith has merely claimed copyright on the scan of an image that he made, and has made public for the benefit of all. Crowe, who claims to currently be a director of a cruise line company (and they say he left them years ago) has made Jon's life hell. He did indeed say he would send friends round to break Jon's legs; all these allegations have been captured in screen grabs. The Police response was lacklustre and Facebook's response was - nothing at all. The attacks became worse and worse until it culminated in Crowe's group "Fakers Frauds and Other Plagiaristic Pariahs" which had rabid homophobic remarks, more threats - and the most despicable statement of all, labelling someone as a child molester. None of these comments were in jest, as the above article states. Fortunately, screengrabs have been made of all this which is just as well because soon after the reporter made contact with Mr.Crowe (and after the police and FBI had been informed), all of the vilest taunts disappeared from Crowe's site. However, the evidence is now in the hands of the police.

Facebook's response has been shocking. They claim to want to stamp out bullying, but when complaints have been made, more often that not, their response has been silence. On the two occasions when a response has been made, it has been exactly the same, by the same person: they seem nothing wrong in any of the posts. Its apparently OK to label people as paedophiles apparently. This is the same company that tolerated groups set up to advocate violence towards women, including rape, but when it comes to showing pictures of breastfeeding or a lady bravely showing off her mastectomy, Facebook's policy is clear - these must be removed as they are "pornographic". And Facebook is only too happy to rush to the aid of someone who's photo has been purloined from her account and plastered all over the internet - especially when said person is none other than the founder's sister. But for all of us plebs, watch out; we don't matter. Its alright to defame us. After all, its only the balance sheet and the investors who matter.

In a week where Facebook has promised to stamp out bullying, and it is under investigation for allowing shocking images of a girl who later killed herself, the article could have focussed on how powerless the common man is when faced with internet behemoths. But it just comes across as a dismissive "storm in a teacup" rant."
 
Welcome back!

I've also had bad experiences with FB, a friend of mine was being threatened and libelous information was being posted about him yet FB said no rules were infringed.

The only thing to do is get on to radion talk shows, complain to FBs advertisers, that will have an effect.
 
Thanks, I'm itching to discuss some non Titanic, and more Fortean related stuff. ;)

All our avenues to Facebook have failed. They don't give out their direct phone numbers or emails for a very good reason. I think I may have some email addresses to the Facebook board. Would you mind giving me more details about FB doing nothing, in PM if necessary. When we're complained, if they ever reply, we get messages from "Viki" saying she sees nothing wrong.

We're at a loss as to what to do, but I do like your other suggestions ;)
Don't you just feel Arthur Dent lying in front of the bulldozer, and it continues regardless of whether you are there or not?
 
Welcome back RhinoHorn. It's a pity that you are not returning under happier circumstances.
 
Thank you Spudrick68. Its been so long since I was last on here that many people's names are completely new to me!

As for that telegraph article, they have censored and removed mine and others posts which were aghast at the Facebook injustice. Freedom of the press? Maybe. Freedom of the public? Sadly not.
 
FB Ireland is also the European HQ.

Facebook Ireland Ltd Hanover Reach, 5-7 Hanover Quay 2 Dublin IRELAND. phone: +0016505434800
fax: +0016505435325
e-mail: [email protected]

Its worth a try. Only found that email address now.
 
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