- May 30, 2010
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- Lydon Park
Aww you remembered that little spat? It was years ago. And even then I was right and you were wrong. Pull yourself together man. The masses are on your side. I'm an oppressed minority.We've been here before --it's not about the phenomenon for some, if you know what I mean, and I don't 'ave patience for comments that waste my time. I'm usually against ignoring people, but she can go ahead and type away with those comments if she likes, and I won't see them.
These UFOs were never photographed, and the evidence for anything unusual is appallingly meagre.In '52 the government was forced to hold a press conference about UFOs after they flew back and forth over the US Capitol, were seen by pilots in the air and simultaneously tracked on radar. The pilots could never catch them.
Autokinesis again.[The airman] was in the tower talking on the phone and interphones. He was watching a star and telling various people that it was moving up and descending rapidly and going from left to right, and [another airman] and I, listening to him from the roof, believed we saw it move too. Such is the power of suggestion.
This star was to the east slightly to the left of and above the rotating beacon. [The airman] reported the star as two miles east of Andrews and at an altitude of 2,000 ft.
In summary, the following statements appear to be correct:
The atmospheric conditions during the period 19-20 and 25-27 July, 1952, in the Washington, D. C., area, were conducive to anomalous propagation of radar signals;
The unidentified radar returns obtained during these incidents were most likely the result of anomalous propagation (AP);
The visual objects were, with one or two possible exceptions, identifiable as most probably meteors and scintillating stars.
I posted something on the Bizarre UAV/Navy thread that describes how the US Navy are testing countermeasures to confuse tracking and create false readouts to confuse the enemy. Follow the link and there’s info on balloons used by ships, planes and submarines that can display UFO characteristics in flight and fool detection systems too. There’s also details of the timeline of what’s being tested and when previous tests took place. The detailed information on this form of shaping the battlespace would be extremely valuable to foreign powers. Hence cover ups, secrecy and pointing ‘over there’ to Aliens as a distraction.Has anybody known of any military, Americanian or otherwise, disclosing their national secrets for the benefit of the lowest common denominator? If the Pathalogians had ever aggressively invaded, or indeed passively toured, from the planet Bleezor, would the authorities, assuming they were bright enough to recognise it, inform their masses of the contact?
See for me, the entire premise that the militants even matter to a race of galactic travellers with the wisdom of eternity is not rational. I watched The Day The Earth Stood Still, and the idea that the visitor would bypass the jarheads and make a beeline for the boffins made a lot of sense. So who gives a rat's arse about the hawks? They don't. If indeed they ARE at all. Which is entirely improbable.
Huh! I heard he had purchased it, but did not hear about the UFO encounter. I'll take a look on YouTube when I have a chance later.Brandon Fugal, owner of Skinwalker Ranch and billionaire, starts his second season on U.S. History Channel May 4th.
Fugal bought the ranch from billionaire Bigelow in 2016.
Fugal will tell you without hesitation, that while filming the first season episodes, he and his crew had a stare down with a UFO.
Fugal says UFOs are absolutely real from his personal experience.
He claims that world governments are not telling the truth.
Here he is:Huh! I heard he had purchased it, but did not hear about the UFO encounter. I'll take a look on YouTube when I have a chance later.
Is that Travis S. Taylor from 'Rocket City Rednecks'?Here he is:
"I was surprised at how open he was as told me; “Those first six months of owning it I really saw nothing myself that would lead me to believe that there was anything unusual. Well that all changed. I had with multiple witnesses with me an occasion where we saw what can only be described as an unidentified flying object, a craft a forty, fifty-foot-long silver disc hovering right above the mesa. Right in front of us. This wasn’t just a blinking light in the sky or something that was a little bit ambiguous. This was a solid object that appeared out of nowhere could move in the blink of an eye and over a twenty second period perform maneuvers that I believe defy any propulsion physics that we’re acquainted with.”
I hate (read love) it when that happens!
Maybe this is it?
Of course unidentified things exist, they just haven't been identified yet. But that doesn't mean they're alien intelligences. There are too many possibilities to be accurate about the "unidentified" in that way.
But as in the old articles a lot of people have had a good enough look at them --from veterans to veterinarians to see that they are some kind of technology that is under intelligent control, and doesn't represent anything we know of here on Earth.Of course unidentified things exist, they just haven't been identified yet. But that doesn't mean they're alien intelligences. There are too many possibilities to be accurate about the "unidentified" in that way.
..and then you've continued to contribute more than anyone else, pushing twenty further posts in this one thread, not to mention being fairly dismissive of other posters.And I feel my part t play with UFOs is done. I don't have anything else to say other than what I have already, take it or leave it.
..for which many of us read 'that don't agree wholeheartedly with me.' That's not how this place works.We've been here before --it's not about the phenomenon for some, if you know what I mean, and I don't 'ave patience for comments that waste my time.
Would that be the 'I've got to fill another whole season on the History Channel' Fugal, who has claimed everything in that relatively small area from polts to shapeshifters?Fugal says UFOs are absolutely real from his personal experience.
He claims that world governments are not telling the truth.
GNC sums it up nicely:
Exactly. There are lots of variables, still. Nobody's ruling out the possibility of alien intelligences - quite the reverse, in fact - but that doesn't mean that anomalous aerial phenomena must be aliens. This overall false syllogism applies to many of the disciplines we study.Of course unidentified things exist, they just haven't been identified yet. But that doesn't mean they're alien intelligences. There are too many possibilities to be accurate about the "unidentified" in that way.
Given the kinds of UFOs that have been encountered recently, such as those featured in the US Navy aircraft footage, a hypersonic missile would be a very poor defence against such phenomenon.The Pentagon announced that they have failed in what China and Russia have been successful in doing.
The military had another failure to launch a hypersonic missile.
Former Defense, Thomas Modly, claims the world has become an extremely dangerous place with hypersonic missiles.
I think they are being developed as a defense against UFOs.
On the contrary, a video recording would have been something concrete to analyse. Invariably these recordings give much more data than the observers' subjective observations, and nearly always help us to identify the true cause. In this case I suspect it was a scintillating star, since it remained stationary for at least an hour and a half.Too bad the RCMP officer didn't get a video recording of that sighting!! We wouldn't have had to spend so much time trying to convince you skeptics, eh?
The Rogue River report is interesting, because it coincides with sightings of the Goodyear blimp in that region.It VERY much reminds me of the Rogue River UFO of '49:
"The two men with the binoculars would later describe the object as a “shape similar to that of a pancake”. Furthermore, there was a “vertical fin” on the upper surface but “no wings, no antenna, no lights, (and) no propellers”.
After a little over two minutes, the object would take off at breakneck speed towards the southwest.