U.S. Military: UFO Investigations, Knowledge & Disclosure(s)

EnolaGaia

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To be honest i wouldnt have thought the subject of UFOs would be included in a state of the union address, so dont get too down hearted.

Agreed ... The fact that a report ordered by a Senate committee is presumably in process and not due until June isn't exactly a major policy or position item.
 

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The Sun reports today that when Harry Reid was the head of the Senate, he tried to follow a lead that Lockheed Martin has pieces of a real UFO.

Now the Senate head is powerful, but Reid claims the Pentagon came to him and told him to stop any investigation dealing with Lockheed Martin which Reid did do.
 
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How the Pentagon Started Taking U.F.O.s Seriously

On May 9, 2001, Steven M. Greer took the lectern at the National Press Club, in Washington, D.C., in pursuit of the truth about unidentified flying objects. Greer, an emergency-room physician in Virginia and an outspoken ufologist, believed that the government had long withheld from the American people its familiarity with alien visitations. He had founded the Disclosure Project in 1993 in an attempt to penetrate the sanctums of conspiracy. Greer’s reckoning that day featured some twenty speakers. He provided, in support of his claims, a four-hundred-and-ninety-two-page dossier called the “Disclosure Project Briefing Document.”


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Over several decades, according to Greer, untold numbers of alien craft had been observed in our planet’s airspace; they were able to reach extreme velocities with no visible means of lift or propulsion, and to perform stunning maneuvers at g-forces that would turn a human pilot to soup. Some of these extraterrestrial spaceships had been “downed, retrieved and studied since at least the 1940s and possibly as early as the 1930s.” Efforts to reverse engineer such extraordinary machines had led to “significant technological breakthroughs in energy generation.” These operations had mostly been classified as “cosmic top secret,” a tier of clearance “thirty-eight levels” above that typically granted to the Commander-in-Chief.

Among the other speakers was Clifford Stone, a retired Army sergeant, who purported to have visited crash sites and seen aliens, both dead and alive. Stone said that he had catalogued fifty-seven species, many of them humanoid. “You have individuals that look very much like you and myself, that could walk among us and you wouldn’t even notice the difference,” he said.

Since then, high-level officials have publicly conceded their bewilderment about U.A.P. without shame or apology. Last July, Senator Marco Rubio, the former acting chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence, spoke on CBS News about mysterious flying objects in restricted airspace. “We don’t know what it is,” he said, “and it isn’t ours.”

Senator Harry Reid, [once] the Senate Majority Leader “believed that crashes of vehicles from other worlds had occurred and that retrieved materials had been studied secretly for decades, often by aerospace companies under government contracts.” The day after its publication, the Times had to append a correction: Senator Reid did not believe that crash debris had been allocated to private military contractors for study; he believed that U.F.O.s may have crashed, and that, if so, we should be studying the fallout.

When I asked Reid about the confusion, he told me that he admired Kean but that he had never seen proof of any remnants—something Kean had never actually claimed. He left no doubt in our conversation as to his personal assessment. “I was told for decades that Lockheed had some of these retrieved materials,” he said. “And I tried to get, as I recall, a classified approval by the Pentagon to have me go look at the stuff. They would not approve that. I don’t know what all the numbers were, what kind of classification it was, but they would not give that to me.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/05/10/how-the-pentagon-started-taking-ufos-seriously

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Harry Reid seems to be ignoring the obvious conclusion; the rumours about Lockheed Martin are only rumours, and in fact they have no UFO material at all.

It would be impossible for the Pentagon to give him 'approval' to look at material that doesn't exist.
 

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The New Yorker has a paywall- you can read the whole thing here.
https://webcache.googleusercontent....king-ufos-seriously+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Kean purports to be a skeptic, but she enthusiastically supported the Chile UFO case till Mick West explained it; now she supports West's interpretation, but gives him no credit. She is not acting in good faith, in my opinion.

The Alderney case had some very plausible explanations in the analysis by David Clarke, but this author has ignored them.

Ian Ridpath's work on Rendlesham is mentioned, but he is not named.

Very annoying article.
 

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An unforeseen twist !

The independent Department of Defense Inspector General is looking into the Pentagon’s UFO information to make sure that the required 180 day UFO report has not been tampered with by unnamed forces.

If true, this is big.

Asst. Inspector Randolph R. Stone is the lead investigator.
 

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The Sun claims the reason why the Inspector General is down on the Pentagon is because for years the Pentagon has not logged and thrown out years of UFO reports from creditable sources.

Holy crap !
 
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If the Inspector General is tied up with this required UFO report, as they say, “ something is not Kosher “ !

This really put doubt on whether this UFO report will be real or a sham.
 

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Does a U.S. secret government exist ?

Luis Elizondo on his UFO program on the History Channel would occasionally mention that forces were against his UFO investigation and that is why he quit his Pentagon job.

Ex Senate leader Harry Reid told Esquire Magazine that when he started his 22 million dollar UFO investigation in 2007, several people came to his office telling him he was doing the wrong thing.

Over the years I feel that U.S. government really does not want to learn the truth about UFOs, and that is why the Inspector General of the Defense Department is really pissed off at the Pentagon.
 
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They are not going to tell us anything of value, obviously.

Mainly because they do not have any more knowledge or understanding of this stuff than any of us do.

The fact that is is now being amped up to be a noise is because they want you to focus on that, and not on something else.
 
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