U.S. Military: UFO Investigations, Knowledge & Disclosure(s)

eburacum

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He actually said;
"We can't explain how they move, their trajectory," he said. "They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so I think that people still take seriously, trying to investigate and figure out what that is."

Obama is right; in many cases the characteristics of these UAPs are not easily explainable. But using sophisticated modelling techniques and frame-by-frame analysis, many of these mysteries can be unravelled in due course.

FLIR1, GIMBAL and GOFAST have all been analysed in this fashion, and quite often the original assumptions have found to be false;
FLIR1 does not show the object flying rapidly out of view (instead the sensor loses contact with it when the camera changes magnification).
GIMBAL does not show a saucer-shaped object flying sideways against the wind (the saucer-like appearance is a glare, and the movement of the object is entirely explained by the movement of the aircraft taking the movie).
GOFAST does not show an object moving rapidly over the sea surface (instead it shows an object thousands of feet above the surface, apparently moving because of parallax: once again the movement of the object is explained by the movement of the aircraft taking the movie).

The fact that these characteristics are not easily explainable does not mean we should just give up and blame aliens, or extradimensional beings. It just means that we need to put more work into the analysis.
 

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Activist Publishes Redacted Version of Classified Military UFO Report


Last June, the Department of Defense released a long-awaited and much-hyped document called “Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena,” detailing the government’s knowledge of UFOs and its programs trying to detect and catalog them. Many UFOlogists hoped that the “UFO report” would be a watershed moment in the field, showing that the government was taking UFOs seriously and, perhaps, explaining what the government thought they were.

Unfortunately, the nine-page report was pretty underwhelming; for the most part it revealed things we already knew, and read primarily like a plea from the DoD for more funding. Tantalizingly, we were told that members of Congress received a classified briefing with more information that would likely never be released to the public.

John Greenewald, the government transparency virtuoso behind the Black Vault, however, has a gift for us today: A redacted version of the classified report, obtained by filing a mandatory declassification review. This version of the report is longer and much more interesting—detailing, for example, the most “common shapes” of UFOs spotted by the military.

Certain sections of the classified report, such as one called “And a Handful of UAP Appear to Demonstrate Advanced Technology,” have far more detail on specific incidents that the Department of Defense cannot explain and that are not mentioned in the public report, including seemingly two different incidents witnessed by multiple pilots and officers in the Navy.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7d...ted-version-of-classified-military-ufo-report

The Black Vault article:

https://www.theblackvault.com/docum...-report-given-to-congress-partially-released/

The report itself:

https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/odni/DEOM-2021-00006.pdf

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Excellent stuff!
One of the most interesting sources of information from the US Navy is the onboard SNOOPIE team, which uses hand-held cameras on deck to photograph unknown phenomena.

Here's one of the clearest photos taken by a SNOOPIE team- obviously a drone, but who sent it up?

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Excellent stuff!
One of the most interesting sources of information from the US Navy is the onboard SNOOPIE team, which uses hand-held cameras on deck to photograph unknown phenomena.

Here's one of the clearest photos taken by a SNOOPIE team- obviously a drone, but who sent it up?

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Actually eburacum I need to pick you brains as I didn't have a camera at the time but last November something went over by block flights but it looked like a missile testing ? but I ask the neighbour as he had the picture come up on his facebook.
 

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...last November something went over by block flights but it looked like a missile testing ? but I ask the neighbour as he had the picture come up on his facebook.
Interesting!
Where was this? Any chance of a picture?
Mysterious missiles are usually either bright meteors or distant aircraft contrails.
 

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Pew Research Center, Washington, D.C. studies the living habits of people.

They claim that the more religious a person is, that this turns that person away from believing in UFOs.

I believe in God, but not too keen on organized religion.

I don’t think religion interfered in my belief in UFOs.

I just think UFOs is just another misunderstood part of our reality.
 

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Interesting!
Where was this? Any chance of a picture?
Mysterious missiles are usually either bright meteors or distant aircraft contrails.
I'm going try and get a picture today but it looked like a grey firebird with contrails coming of its wings...it was lovely to see and it flew right over the block of flats I live in from South Shields of flats heading north to Scotland and took about 5 minutes before disappearing in the distance.
 
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As I lie here in my hospital bed for another week - gastroenteritis with complications - thank you for the cheery uplift CB!

I have equally said so before, it you don't understand the sheer bonkers madness of it, you don't understand ufolology at all! :jugg:
Get well soon!
 

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Thanks! Looks like it was the Landsat 9 launch.

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More details here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landsat_9

This seems to have been the Atlas booster re-entering, after travelling halfway round the world from Vandenburg in California.
Cheers for that Eburacum as that's what is what I saw :).
Where I live I'm very fortunate to see things in the sky like a 5 seconds Green meteorites and even saw the Space X 3 times on May 30th 2020 twice as first time just looked like a plane in the distance but lucky was no planes about with Covid Lockdown and then saw it again at 9.30pm whizzing lower neat the Cheviot Hills and Queens "Don't Stop Me Now" came to mind and then saw it again next day Sunday at 1.30pm.
 

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:popc:I thought they looked like Futuro houses.
You mean just like the ones which relate to recent discussions on the Pascagoula/Hickson/Parker thread...

If you didn't know better, you might think there's a connection....

Probably the work of some drunken eejits just back from the pub and realising it was 1 April...

They're probably hoping the intentional clues and humour are sufficient to avoid any wrath from 'above'... I would.... erm... speculate.
 

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As penance, I wondered if this might be of historical interest - came across the following UK documentary from 1967, investigating UFOs in the U.S. and featuring some fabulous archive material.

It's topical as regards the overall question of 'disclosure'' and a snapshot in time. What exactly was this 'phenomenon' in the first place!

World in Action: We Know What We Saw

 

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You mean just like the ones which relate to recent discussions on the Pascagoula/Hickson/Parker thread...

If you didn't know better, you might think there's a connection....

Probably the work of some drunken eejits just back from the pub and realising it was 1 April...

They're probably hoping the intentional clues and humour are sufficient to avoid any wrath from 'above'... I would.... erm... speculate.
:dunno:
First time I've seen that particular photo.
 

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The world has known about the AATIP program for a while, but just recently the Pentagon released papers verifying the existence of this paranormal study.

Holy crap !

These papers explained how people were damaged by an UFO and other paranormal encounters.

Among the many reports, people were damaged by UFOs with sex encounter, unaccounted pregnancy, nightmares, burnt skin, nose bleeds, heart problems, unexplained fevers to mention a few.

I know I suffer from PTSD from my encounters for many years.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18115486/ufos-injuries-radiation-burns-pentagon-docs/
 
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... These papers explained how people were damaged by an UFO and other paranormal encounters. ...

Not exactly. The AATIP documents that were released included an appendix listing alleged physiological effects resulting from UFO sightings and encounters. This listing was compiled by MUFON's former director John Schuessler from a variety of sources.

It was published as a paperback book or pamphlet back in 1996:

A Catalog of UFO-Related Human Physiological Effects Paperback – January 1, 1996
by John F. Schuessler
Geo Graphics Printing Co.; First Edition (January 1, 1996)
Paperback ‎105 pages

https://www.amazon.com/Catalog-UFO-Related-Human-Physiological-Effects/dp/B001R6G1PO
 

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I say to myself that after all these years, the people who want to keep UFOs a secret are still winning.

But then I think that when I was young, one could not talk about UFOs without severe criticism.

Today it is possible to have a civil conversation about UFOs without someone calling the people in white coats and straight jackets to come and get you.

So, I resign myself to partial success ?
 

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Luis Elizondo on America’s FoxTV News claims since the Pentagon verified the AATIP program and all it’s parts, Elizondo says there is this one question.

Did these UFO and paranormal events on purpose hurt people, or were people hurt by accident ?
 
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