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UAPs Over North America (February 2023)

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/10/politics/biden-alaska-military-down/index.html

“The Department of Defense was tracking a high-altitude object over Alaska airspace in the last 24 hours,” National Security Council coordinator for strategic communications John Kirby announced to the press on Friday.

The high-altitude object, Kirby said during a White House press briefing, was flying at an altitude of 40,000 feet and “posed a reasonable threat to the safety of civilian flight.”

There were two efforts to get closer to the object and evaluate it as it flew. The first engagement by fighter aircraft took place late Thursday night and the second Friday morning. Both engagements yielded “limited” information, Kirby told reporters.

“We were able to get some fighter aircrafts up and around it before the order to shoot it down, and the pilots assessment was this was not manned,” Kirby added.
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The Pentagon is calling the second Alaskan object as a small car not related to the first object which was a big balloon.

The Pentagon called it a UFO and at 40,000 feet was dangerous to aircraft.

The Pentagon took it out over Alaska, but few details.
 
I was reading somewhere earlier that the thing shot down over Alaska was described as 'not having people on board' and being a 'silver coloured cylinder moving at about 20mph - 40mph in a northerly direction'.
Doesn't such much like a balloon to me unless it was one of those balloons that they use for parties, or a childs toy.
You know, this sort of thing.
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charliebrown said:
The Pentagon is calling the second Alaskan object as a small car not related to the first object which was a big balloon.

The Pentagon called it a UFO and at 40,000 feet was dangerous to aircraft.

The Pentagon took it out over Alaska, but few details.
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Very strange descriptions of the object: "about the size of a small (by US standards) car", "did not resemble the surveillance balloon", "cylindrical and silverish gray” and "it wasn’t ‘flying’ with any sort of propulsion".

As of 6 hours ago, they were still trying to locate any debris from the object.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/11/politics/unidentified-object-alaska-military-latest/index.html
 
They say it was drifting at 'virtually at the whim of the wind'. Like balloons do. I never have much faith in size estimates and wouldn't be surprised if it was an escaped party or advertising balloon they destroyed at great expense.
 
(copied from the Non-UFO thread - Stu)

As for the Alaska object, it does sound like some sort of large metallic balloon, but might be something else. At this point, I don't think it properly belongs in this thread; it is an unidentified flying object. I hope it turns out to be something more interesting than a big harmless balloon.
 
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The mystery only grows ?

The Pentagon said the Alaska UFO shoot down did not resemble an aircraft. !

The origin is not known and no one has claimed responsibility.

Do we have another Roswell, or Rendlesham Forest, or a Kecksburg UFO ?
 
charliebrown said:
Do we have another Roswell, or Rendlesham Forest, or a Kecksburg UFO ?
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For this reason I've created a specific thread for this emerging story. Two things occur to me immediately.

1) if it had been another balloon they'd have said so, and

2) given where it was they didn't have to even mention it and we'd have been none the wiser. However, they've been uncharacteristically forthcoming. There's something going on there.
 
It cost them best part of half a million $ to get it down pluss all the search and retrieval,
still a good military exercise so not a total loss.
 
stu neville said:
1) if it had been another balloon they'd have said so
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Given the US Navy's complete failure to identify the Batman balloon and half a dozen other examples of misidentification in recent years, I have no faith at all that they could discriminate between a balloon and any other unidentified aerial phenomenon. If it were a solar balloon or a shaped mylar novelty balloon, the amount of debris left behind would be minimal and easily overlooked.
 
RaM said:
It cost them best part of half a million $ to get it down pluss all the search and retrieval,
still a good military exercise so not a total loss.
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Blimey. Imagine how much it will cost them to stop the invasion!
 
I quote "A sidewinder, that's one of our cheaper munitions"
 
Here's more about the one in Canada...

U.S. fighter jet shoots down object over Canada, Trudeau says​


WASHINGTON/OTTAWA, Feb 11 (Reuters) - A U.S. F-22 fighter jet shot down an unidentified object over Canada on Saturday, the second such shootdown in as many days, as North America appeared on heightened alert following a week-long Chinese spying balloon saga that drew the global spotlight.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced the shootdown on Twitter and said it took place over the Yukon territory in the country's north. He said Canadian forces would recover and analyze the wreckage from the object.


Trudeau also said he had spoken with U.S. President Joe Biden about the incident, a day after Biden ordered a shootdown of an unidentified flying object over sea ice near Deadhorse, Alaska. The U.S. military on Saturday was still tight-lipped about what, if anything, it had learned as recovery efforts were underway.
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Much more at the link below:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...a-ufo-new-object-seen-over-canada-2023-02-11/
 
charliebrown said:
Canadian Defense Minister, Anita Anand, confirms that the Canadian UFO was a cylinder at 40,000 feet.
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“At this point, we are continuing to do the analysis,” Anand said, “and we will make sure that analysis is thorough. It would not be prudent for me to speculate on the origins of the object at this time.”

The minister did, though, say she had information that the object was “potentially similar” to others shot down in the past week, and is believed to be smaller than one destroyed by US forces a week ago.

Anand said the object “posed a reasonable threat to the safety of civilian flight” and, in a first for the North American Aerospace Defense Command – known as Norad – was shot down while still airborne.

“Canada was tracking a high-altitude object over central Yukon. Norad detected this object and launched Canadian and US fighter aircraft to investigate. The object was visually identified using fighter aircraft assigned to Norad,” Anand told reporters at a press conference.

She said the object was fired upon some 100 miles over the US-Canadian border in central Yukon and will now be recovered by Canadian Armed Forces and RCMP personnel.

Aircraft from bases in Alaska and Cold Lake, Alberta were involved in the mission. A Lockheed CP-140 Aurora patrol aircraft is working to pinpoint the wreckage and a broader investigation continues.

Anand said Yukon Premier Ranj Pillai had been contacted.

“We will continue to work hand-in-hand with the territory and continue to reach out to Indigenous peoples potentially affected by this incident to provide information and updates as needed,” she said.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had earlier confirmed a “take down of an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace” over Yukon.

It’s the third such downing of an intruder into North American airspace in the past week. The US military destroyed a suspected Chinese spy balloon last weekend and then, on Friday, shot down another unidentified object off the coast of Alaska.

The reported Chinese spy balloon is said to have crossed over the Northwest Territories before reaching contiguous US airspace. A Canadian North flight reported unexplained lights over Yellowknife at roughly the same time as the balloon is understood to have been over the NWT, but it’s not clear if those events were one and the same or entirely separate.
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https://cabinradio.ca/120820/news/p...oot-down-small-cylindrical-object-over-yukon/
 
There is another object over Havre, Montana.

A decision will be taken in the morning whether to shoot it down.

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[MODS: Without any disrespect to @RaM could we change the thread title to something like "Objects over North America February 2023" because this has rapidly become a wider phenomena.]

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Victory said:
Without any disrespect to @RaM could we change the thread title to something like "Objects over North America February 2023" because this has rapidly become a wider phenomena.
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Yes- I named the original thread when abstracting the posts from elsewhere. Now renamed.
Victory said:
There is another object over Havre, Montana.
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Apparently this appears to have been a radar anomaly (according to the BBC) but USAF are monitoring.
 
Sounds like this has the potential to become a case of mass hysteria, whether its balloons, chinese technology, 'true' UFOs or a combination of all of that phenomena. I expect we'll start hearing a lot of misidentification from members of the public soon. Nevertheless, I'll follow this developing story with interest. :thought:
 
I'm wondering aloud here - could all this palaver be the next step in 'gradual disclosure' about the 'known unknowns'. Are they getting us used to the idea that there is stuff up there that we can't readily identify? I know that probably sounds either ridiculously cynical or ridiculously naive, but just throwing it out there. Interesting times :thought:
 
CharmerKamelion said:
I'm wondering aloud here - could all this palaver be the next step in 'gradual disclosure' about the 'known unknowns'.
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That's the thinking in quite a lot of the UAP/UFO groups, but then it always has been since the 50s (a bit like how fringe religious groups recalculate the end of the world on an annual basis). It does seem that the US govt especially is being more open about things, but as always we don't know what they're not saying.
 
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