spellbound said:Bizarre scarecrow. I wonder if the farmer's son or daughter is a tech student, or it's something to do with a kids' program.
We are going ask the farmer,about the scarecrow.
spellbound said:Bizarre scarecrow. I wonder if the farmer's son or daughter is a tech student, or it's something to do with a kids' program.
johncbdg1 said:UFOS INTERCEPT AIRLINER AT GOREBRIDGE MIDLOTHIAN, 21st may 2009 10.30 pm frame by frame clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS7nSWfoJLo
elffriend said:I'm no expert but it does look like a plane flying past a star especially as it was filmed late evening.
johncbdg1 said:elffriend said:I'm no expert but it does look like a plane flying past a star especially as it was filmed late evening.
Thank you for reply,it has been looked in to and it is not a star,if you look at the video in the first box you will see the object move up and forward to plane, the secound box shows it as it moves closer to plane. i pick the object up in first box and track it in secound box to plane and past plane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QUAGta8V3w
regards
Ginando said:johncbdg1 said:elffriend said:I'm no expert but it does look like a plane flying past a star especially as it was filmed late evening.
Thank you for reply,it has been looked in to and it is not a star,if you look at the video in the first box you will see the object move up and forward to plane, the secound box shows it as it moves closer to plane. i pick the object up in first box and track it in secound box to plane and past plane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QUAGta8V3w
regards
I see you have moved the goalposts again. Now this object appears twice? You say the star theory has been discounted. By who? Only yourself I suspect. You're deluding yourself and trying to delude others. I also see you have changed the title of one of your videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FRDn-84 ... re=related. The UFO is no longer intercepting the airliner, now its flying peacefully alongside the plane. So what changed, or did you want to get new viewers looking at this footage so you changed the title? This is exactly the same footage which was manipulated (and now I am convinced despite your assurances this is wilful manipulation of the images) by the use of filming a video recording on a screen and using slow motion rewind to fool the less observant and retarded into thinking they were watching a 'craft' maneouvering around the airliner. Your doing genuine researchers no favours by posting nonsense like this and changing the titles of you tube videos to make it look like something new is quite frankly pathetic. :furious:
..as would I. In fact the only ad-hom in preceding posts came from you, johncbdg1.Ginando said:First and foremost. Can you show me exactly where I have ever been foul mouthed in any of my posts to you? If you can show me I'd be grateful.
Pretty much sums up this thread thus far. johncbdg1, you really have to stop mistaking both discussion and constructive criticism for personal slights. You came to this forum and presented your footage as evidence: scrutiny of evidence is one of the primary roles of this forum. If you merely want people to go "ooh! ahhh!" and unquestioningly accept the footage as indisputable proof of whatever you seem to assert is "the truth", then there are a number of sites out there which will happily accommodate you. If you post to this one, however, expect some questions and not just blind credence.Ginando said:What is obvious is that anyone who tries to counter your footage with logical argument upsets you, and you end up bad mouthing them as conspirators or blind to the truth.
LOL, do you never read the posts on about this video,two threads on this,and i am not going over old ground again same old storys read the posts about this footage,look at it this way friend are you saying that i am telling lies about the footage or fakeing the footage or both,make your mind up but lets not play silly games here,as i said you may want to deny this footage is real through your own belief on what you think is real or not,but this footage is the real deal people like you are only helping the cover up on the ufos you may well be doing this unpaid or paid to cover this footage up make out it is a con and not real,but you know it is real footage.and there is not much you or anyone can do to cover this up its out, and people viewing it yes and plenty of e-mails coming in from all over the world about this footage,so you and a few friends/work mates trying there best to cover it up can not stop this truth geting out,its out and going everywhere so your post to me mean nothing now,if your readers think you are right,then i can only say there is more to life than what you see the real truth is outhere and this footage shows that.Ginando said:First and foremost. Can you show me exactly where I have ever been foul mouthed in any of my posts to you? If you can show me I'd be grateful. What is obvious is that anyone who tries to counter your footage with logical argument upsets you, and you end up bad mouthing them as conspirators or blind to the truth. There is no conspiracy, merely people who look at your footage and understand that it shows nothing more than an airliner passing in front of an early evening star. You have even put in some bizarre link regarding threats of legal action for those who challenge your opinion.
Lets look at the facts. You say you have checked the sky at that location and there were no stars visible. Yet you dont show where the footage is truly taken, you don't have a backdrop shot even to show relative positions, so nobody other than you can honestly say what part of the sky the shots portray.
You claim the footage shows a UFO circling around the aircraft, but it appears nobody on the flight has seen it. If you were a truly serious researcher, then you would have spoken with passengers to see if anyone saw this. Who knows maybe one of them was filming the approach?
The MOD have allegedly been contacted, but everyone knows they never make comment that is worthwhile for this type of event.
Your footage is oddly short. If I was a UFO researcher and saw a UFO and was fortunate enough to be videoing the sky, I would keep trained on it till it disappeared, yet you just seem to have stopped filming. Why is the disappearance of the 'orb' not shown?
You then film video footage off a screen or monitor, and when posting the footage on Youtube, you word the description to make people think they are watching the footage as it occurs in sequence, when infact it is glaringly obvious that you have put the video on slow motion rewind to give the appearance that the orb has moved backwards, i.e. manoeuvred around the plane. I initially even gave you the benefit of the doubt that this was done with good intention, but I am now satisfied this is a deliberate ploy to make a routine bit of footage look totally different, and that is a blatant and deliberate act unworthy of someone who says they are a true researcher.
To cap it all, when people such as myself and others challenge your assertions, you become hostile and allege in my case that I have been foul mouthed, but can only assume anyone who disagrees with you is construed as foul mouthed.
It is interesting that there are commercial interests in the area who are trying to make money from this UFO hotspot. An obvious example being http://scottishandrew.bttradespace.com/ ... .aspx?ID=5 then theres http://www.cojoweb.com/host-andrew-h-FofX-CD.html
or how about http://www.newstarparty.com/ Then there's http://www.beyondboundaries.org/archive ... hADVRT.htm Oh wait, thats right its all the same person. Scottish Andrew, or Andrew Hennesy http://www.whale.to/b/hennessey_h.html seems to be quite the entrepreneur with all these interests. He is also remarkable for the odd quality of his videos again as witnessed by this gem. http://uk.truveo.com/the-loch-ness-mons ... 3925647982
His association with Jackie Gillies is mentioned in his website, so are we to assume you are either a friend of Andrew Hennesy, or Jackie Gillies or really just John and you have no link to these people.
Now before you go an speak to Joe Beltrami about suing me, I am not saying you are part of the Hennesy UFO/alien/music organisation as it seems by your posts that English is not your first language, and your timezone setting on your profile suggests Poland, whereas Hennesy and Gillies are Scots living in or near Edinburgh.
Lastly, how about this http://www.offtheplanet.blogspot.com/ If you scroll down to the Plaxo pages at the right hand side there is a scroll bar. You'll see that Hennesy has apparently posted the footage of the airliner. So is he the person who stole the footage?
Is it not a little odd that Hennesy makes his money from Forteana, and seems to like videos which never show very much and to which he can attribute any interpretation he likes to? Maybe you are an unwitting aid to his money making schemes, or maybe you know more than you let on.
To all my readers I bid you Good Night. I look forward to your reply 'John'
johncbdg1 said:Anyway not going get in to this sort of reply not got the time to spend going over same old storys,we have more important matters and are well advanced on this ufo footage inquiry,and will post updates as soon as we get them,and any new footage taken from this area,i can say it is not a star,it is not fake,i do not con anyone,and if anyone wants to talk about this footage then get in contact Serious inquiries are welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SkywatcherS ... B&hl=en-GB
Ginando said:johncbdg1 said:Anyway not going get in to this sort of reply not got the time to spend going over same old storys,we have more important matters and are well advanced on this ufo footage inquiry,and will post updates as soon as we get them,and any new footage taken from this area,i can say it is not a star,it is not fake,i do not con anyone,and if anyone wants to talk about this footage then get in contact Serious inquiries are welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SkywatcherS ... B&hl=en-GB
You have gone further down in my estimation, and I suspect other readers by your attitude. I merely asked if I used foul language towards you, when we both know I didn't and never have used foul language. Unfortunately you are not even man enough to acknowledge those occasions when you are wrong. However at least this confirms to me that you are not a man of good repute. I will now make a point of directing each and every website where you have posted your videos to this site to show what an odious and unpleasant person you are.
MsPix said:It's still a shaky video of an aircraft and a point of light that could be anything, but is probably an artefact, or a star, The cameras at the limit of its resolution in poor light, also refilming the image from a video screen makes artefacts even more likely.
It doesn't matter how much you big it up, it's just another shaky video.
..pots... kettles.... darkness...johncbdg1 said:...I must stop posting on message boards with people who do not show there real names and places where they come from..
..no we can't.....you can see where i am from name and place..
How about you directly address questions asked of you on here? Otherwise there's no point in any of us continuing with your threads.... and how about you posters coming clean real name and place then we can talk or send e-mail as to who you are other than that there is no use to reply,sorry we have moved well on this footage updates by my e-mail,if you are up for that.
Ginando said:Excuse me, but just answer one simple question. Did I use or have I ever used foul language at any point in this discussion, Yes or No?
johncbdg1 said:Ginando said:johncbdg1 said:Anyway not going get in to this sort of reply not got the time to spend going over same old storys,we have more important matters and are well advanced on this ufo footage inquiry,and will post updates as soon as we get them,and any new footage taken from this area,i can say it is not a star,it is not fake,i do not con anyone,and if anyone wants to talk about this footage then get in contact Serious inquiries are welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SkywatcherS ... B&hl=en-GB
You have gone further down in my estimation, and I suspect other readers by your attitude. I merely asked if I used foul language towards you, when we both know I didn't and never have used foul language. Unfortunately you are not even man enough to acknowledge those occasions when you are wrong. However at least this confirms to me that you are not a man of good repute. I will now make a point of directing each and every website where you have posted your videos to this site to show what an odious and unpleasant person you are.
Ok you never said that,i have not got time as i posted going over silly comments over and over again you seem to think you are the one and only going over the same old crap on this footage so would you post it somwhere else for i do not gie a monkeys what you say or do,i have moved on from stars and lights if you read both threads you are weeks to late you thoughts on this are outdated and may be you want to go over old ground spread the word about me not talking to how you would like,gee friend move on you are looking like paint drying now,you can deny this footage by whatever means you like but the fact is its the real deal and your type will not stop the truth getting out,sorry to be blunt but some times people never move on and need to be told too,sorry friend but it is time for you to do your best and try and help the cover up on ufos here in the uk,bottom line who cares what you say lets see then.
this iis the footage you want to deny is not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS7nSWfo ... rofilepage
hey post where you like as long as it keeps my copyright bye
Liverevil said:johncbdg1 said:Ginando said:johncbdg1 said:Anyway not going get in to this sort of reply not got the time to spend going over same old storys,we have more important matters and are well advanced on this ufo footage inquiry,and will post updates as soon as we get them,and any new footage taken from this area,i can say it is not a star,it is not fake,i do not con anyone,and if anyone wants to talk about this footage then get in contact Serious inquiries are welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SkywatcherS ... B&hl=en-GB
You have gone further down in my estimation, and I suspect other readers by your attitude. I merely asked if I used foul language towards you, when we both know I didn't and never have used foul language. Unfortunately you are not even man enough to acknowledge those occasions when you are wrong. However at least this confirms to me that you are not a man of good repute. I will now make a point of directing each and every website where you have posted your videos to this site to show what an odious and unpleasant person you are.
Ok you never said that,i have not got time as i posted going over silly comments over and over again you seem to think you are the one and only going over the same old crap on this footage so would you post it somwhere else for i do not gie a monkeys what you say or do,i have moved on from stars and lights if you read both threads you are weeks to late you thoughts on this are outdated and may be you want to go over old ground spread the word about me not talking to how you would like,gee friend move on you are looking like paint drying now,you can deny this footage by whatever means you like but the fact is its the real deal and your type will not stop the truth getting out,sorry to be blunt but some times people never move on and need to be told too,sorry friend but it is time for you to do your best and try and help the cover up on ufos here in the uk,bottom line who cares what you say lets see then.
this iis the footage you want to deny is not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS7nSWfo ... rofilepage
hey post where you like as long as it keeps my copyright bye
I'm a noob when it comes to this stuff, but honestly mate you need to take a chill pill. Of course you think the films real, but people asking questions or maybe disagreeing with you is what you'd excpect. I just posted a story about my one and only UFO or whatever sighting and evryone says I am seeing something normal. Maybe theyre right. I don't know. But no point in loosing it with people. You just have to take the good with the bad. I sometimes have had jobs to do to try to fix a problem on a ship or oil rig and I've been 100% sure I knew what the answer to the problem was, and somebody says that I am wrong. But if I get it wrong I just have to get on with it. Not sure if you know what I mean. I'm not the best at putting stuff like this into words.
Timble2 said:The more you show that clip the more it's obvious that the plane's moving in front of something stationary, together with some smearing of the aircraft's navigation lights due to the limitations of the camera.
And what a seventh century AD Saint may have seen is irrelevant: it could easily be a natural phenomenon such as a sundog; it may be an entirely personal experience. The story has been copied many times over and quite possibly scrambled in the process.
jimv1 said:It looks like a lens flare effect to me but this could be investigated further by using the same camera to shoot more overhead planes and pointing it at various distant light sources to see what glitches pop up.
There aren't many cameras that don't have them.
Which is what makes the analysis of 'photographic' proof of UFOs and Ghosts such an interesting part this site.
rushfan62 said:If it were not for the unpleasant mud sliging by the original poster, this unconvincing footage would have inspired not more than a couple of replies stating the obvious, Ie; stationary object, possibly star being passed by a plane. I have seen many more convincing "UFOs" over the years, all will have had logical explanations if I were in a position to know what they were. This footage is not in the least bit anomolous.
... and further haved merged this entire thread with the other earlier thread you devoted to exactly the same clippage. Often this results in confused, backwards and forwards discussion and frequent rehashings of replies and seemingly ignored questions, but curiously, doesn't seem to have noticeably affected this thread.stuneville said:I've merged this latest thread of yours into the original one, as it deals with the same thing. Better keeping them all in one place...
stuneville said:... and further haved merged this entire thread with the other earlier thread you devoted to exactly the same clippage. Often this results in confused, backwards and forwards discussion and frequent rehashings of replies and seemingly ignored questions, but curiously, doesn't seem to have noticeably affected this thread.stuneville said:I've merged this latest thread of yours into the original one, as it deals with the same thing. Better keeping them all in one place...
In that light (stationary, precise nature unascertained but probably mundane), johncbdg1, can you confine any more clippings, slowings down, speedings up or other apparent enhancements to precisely the same scenario to this thread?
TYVM.
Oh, and while you're at it (and in a suitably contrite mood) would you mind addressing a couple of the points I've made? I'd be rather grateful to hear your views.