Uncanny (BBC Programme / Podcast)

Paul_Exeter said:
Anyone missing the British Uncanny might want to try the following show with seven paranormal witness interviews and a resident skeptic and believer:

Inspectre Paranormal​

Tom Barrow​

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Inspectre Paranormal shines a light deep into the dark corners of the world of the unexplained and investigates some very strange ghostly phenomena! Each episode features the first-hand spoken testimonies from real-life witnesses, who've experienced some baffling and terrifying encounters. Each week, Host Tom Barrow takes on a brand new case and is joined by a team of experts.

An example episode:

S1. Episode 6: Gallows Court​

University student Chris has just started his new job - working at a Laser Quest in the Northern England city of Carlisle. However, beyond the dry smoke and laser beams Chris soon discovers through some terrifying encounters of his own, that the building (previously the site of the city’s most infamous prison) might still be holding on-to it's dark and mysterious past. In this first of a two part investigation, the Inspectre team set to find out what happened and uncover the truth. Hosted by Tom Barrow, this

https://sites.libsyn.com/510723?fbc...hon0afypi31Aefe_EEY1Px4FFCiF54S3hmW1d1XEeEtI0


Bloody Hell Ken...!
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The artwork is giving "graphic design is my passion" but it sounds intriguing. And it's dark enough now to have a listen ;)
 
Paul_Exeter said:
Anyone missing the British Uncanny might want to try the following show with seven paranormal witness interviews and a resident skeptic and believer:

Inspectre Paranormal​

Tom Barrow​

podcast art

Inspectre Paranormal shines a light deep into the dark corners of the world of the unexplained and investigates some very strange ghostly phenomena! Each episode features the first-hand spoken testimonies from real-life witnesses, who've experienced some baffling and terrifying encounters. Each week, Host Tom Barrow takes on a brand new case and is joined by a team of experts.

An example episode:

S1. Episode 6: Gallows Court​

University student Chris has just started his new job - working at a Laser Quest in the Northern England city of Carlisle. However, beyond the dry smoke and laser beams Chris soon discovers through some terrifying encounters of his own, that the building (previously the site of the city’s most infamous prison) might still be holding on-to it's dark and mysterious past. In this first of a two part investigation, the Inspectre team set to find out what happened and uncover the truth. Hosted by Tom Barrow, this

https://sites.libsyn.com/510723?fbc...hon0afypi31Aefe_EEY1Px4FFCiF54S3hmW1d1XEeEtI0


Bloody Hell Ken...!
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First three episodes are not far at all from me. Excellent!
 
ShadyCavalier said:
And it came across as an obvious play to the American audience: Oh he's so charming and Briddish!
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He’s not the only one. The metal detector guy off of Oak Island does the same. We have family in Linc’s from where the detectorist hails and not one of them puts on a pseudo cockney accent and drops their aitches as he does.
Looks like it is a Brits abroad habit. Or more like a Brits in the states.
 
I was also wary of Uncanny going to the USA. I always thought Richard McClean Smith's "Unexplained" podcast took a misstep, which it never recovered from, when he started doing American cases.

Also Black Mirror episodes are far, far stronger, in my opinion, when they're set in Britain rather than the US. Again, Black Mirror started off as exclusively British, if I remember right.

My above opinions are nothing to do with Britain being "better" than the USA or anything - to me, in Belfast, a little village in say Shropshire is about as "alien" as a small town in say Alabama.

It's more that I think when the creator is presenting a world they truly KNOW, that knowledge and grounding really shines through. It gives an authenticity and nuance you can't buy, which is especially important when presenting "fantastical" tales.

But all that said(!) I'm enjoying the new series. Particularly the "My Father's Phone" and Bigfoot ones. Uncanny does seem slightly more bombastic than when it first started, but I think that bombast really started in the season before this one, so America isn't to "blame".
 
Tempest63 said:
He’s not the only one. The metal detector guy off of Oak Island does the same. We have family in Linc’s from where the detectorist hails and not one of them puts on a pseudo cockney accent and drops their aitches as he does.
Looks like it is a Brits abroad habit. Or more like a Brits in the states.
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It's interesting how, in my lifetime, music and social media has helped to shift the stereotypical 'British' accent from one that sounds like Hugh Grant/Queen Liz (rip) to mockney and Essex vibes.

I'll have to develop a glottal stop if I'm ever to have any hope of making it in the States.
 
Part two of the story is now up.

The primary new detail to break down is that the cabin dwellers are assaulted by a rain of rocks or stones....and when they escape over an embankment to their boat a boulder "larger than a basketball" is thrown at our key witnesses, missing his head by chance alone.

The in house sceptic repeats her line from last week that bears are known to throw projectiles.

Observations: even within my passing awareness of Bigfoot stories I'm aware the hurling of things , rocks and tree stumps, over distances is consistently reported.
The rain of stones, interestingly, is a common feature in poltergeist cases too for what it's worth.

Main thing is, is the sceptical claim about ursine shot putters true?

A brief search on YouTube and Google brings mixed results. On YouTube I've not found any footage of this behaviour. One video labeled. Bear Throwing Things shows a bear not throwing anything. Another is literally titled " bears throwing rocks at each other" ..turns out to be a clip from a video game animation and features no bears.


Google brought up more promising results, but pretty scant. a) Inuit claims/observations being noted about bears sometimes using rocks to kill Walruses. b) a zoo or enclosure where a bear ( unseen) had apparently used a large boulder to shatter the glass wall. and c) the most solid evidence ( still photos, no video) of a bear apparently tossing a stone about, in 2014.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ks-pond-near-home-throwing-like-shot-put.html

That was a brief search so if anyone wants to take it up and locate footage of what a bear throwing a boulder actually looks like.

Edit: this depiction/description/corroboration of historic Inuit claims is the most compelling as the engraving certainly resembles the incident in today's Uncanny.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...s-hurling-rocks-and-ice-study-says-180978392/
 
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I can understand that there may not be much film footage of bears throwing objects as in the examples @gattino found of polar bears hunting walruses and using chunks of ice or rock. Polar bears are lone animals, so, if one bear learned this hunting technique, it would not necessarily be passed to a group. A family of bears such as mother and cubs might learn throwing to kill but then the learning is limited only to them and any offspring that they have.
 
It's also worth considering the suggestion ( shaped no doubt by the sound effects on the podcast ...but even just stripping that away and concentrating on the words) that this "throwing" was great in volume and rapidity . He speaks of a "hail" of stones raining down.

It's hard to visualise that coming from something without opposable thumbs .

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Here is a much more detailed account of the 1924 incident.
https://www.oregonlive.com/history/2018/01/1924_bigfoot_battle_on_mt_st_h.html

For what comparison or contrast you can make here, apparently, is how that party described the creature:

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Edit: it also describes them as ( only?) 7 feet tall.
 
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brownmane said:
I can understand that there may not be much film footage of bears throwing objects as in the examples @gattino found of polar bears hunting walruses and using chunks of ice or rock. Polar bears are lone animals, so, if one bear learned this hunting technique, it would not necessarily be passed to a group. A family of bears such as mother and cubs might learn throwing to kill but then the learning is limited only to them and any offspring that they have.
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Polar bears grip the ice in their paws and bring it down on the head of the walrus, they don't throw it like a human throwing a rock.
 
gordonrutter said:
Richard Freeman does a lecture on, and I believe is writing a book on, cryptids that attack, including Bigfoot.
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The book is on man eating animals, know ones like crocs, tigers, bears, sharks. Its in two volumes. Number one (cirocodillians, constrictng snakes and komodod dragons, sharks bears and human cannibals) is out next month. The second volume (big cats,, wolves and wild dogs, hyenas, weird man eaters and parasites) is out next year. I do have a lecture on Death by Cryptid though.
 
blessmycottonsocks said:
Yes. Those were my thoughts too.
The reported standing height and width of the skull seemed to be a very good match for large bears.
I appreciate that these witnesses were familiar with the environment, but a close encounter at night with a family group of exceptionally large but mangy Alaskan bears (which can include the Polar bear), coupled with a supernatural dread engendered by their tribal beliefs and legends, could have been conflated into the encounter described in Uncanny.

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Bear don't hunt in packs or by hurling rocks. They have pointed snouts not gorilla like faces. They lack the broad shoulders of sasquatch because the scapular lies flat against the body. Thos also means the arms can't rotate to throw things the way ours can.
 
I can tell you right now that nobody, ever, has reported bears hunting humans by ganging up and throwing rocks at a cabin then pelting the people as the flee. To think this is bears in zoological madness. Either the story is a fabrication or they were attacked by something other than bears and the guy sounds scared, real scared.
 
Well that is one heck of a climax to Fred's tale. I highly recommend this YouTube account as despite the interviewer looking like a nodding dog in the back of a car, there are illustrations and maps and it really helped me to understand the location, the cabin etc:

Link:

Do not know why this has appeared, google:

WE WERE FOOD...Fred Roehl Shares His Terrifying Encounter That Changed The Way He Views Sasquatch.​

Sketching Encounters​

@sketchingencounters
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10.6K subscribers•15 videos
This is the channel of witness sketch artist, and Sasquatch researcher, Sybilla Irwin. Sybilla works entirely under the direction of the witness to recreate exactly what the witness experienced. On this channel you will see the artwork they have created together, and the witness describes, in their own words, what happened to them that fateful day. ...moresybillairwin.comand 2 more links


I am struggling with the concept of a flesh and blood ape-like creature taking three bullets from his rifle and not dropping or screaming out or any other reaction. So unless anyone can persuade me otherwise then those creatures are paranormal or sadly it's a fabricated tale
 
I also struggled with the idea these creatures wanted to kill and eat them ("we were food') as that cabin is described as 'plywood" and the creatures as massive so why didn't they tear the cabin apart to get to the tasty humans inside? Likewise, when they are trying to launch the boat they are essentially sitting ducks, so why didn't they attack them then? They could have jumped down off that bank and plucked them out of the boat.

What does make sense is that it was a hostile attempt to frighten them off, which to me suggests flesh and blood creatures being territorial but how could they survive being shot?
 
Paul_Exeter said:
I am struggling with the concept of a flesh and blood ape-like creature taking three bullets from his rifle and not dropping or screaming out or any other reaction. So unless anyone can persuade me otherwise then those creatures are paranormal or sadly it's a fabricated tale
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I am sure that under normal circumstances Fred is an excellent shot but under these circumstances and after the night they had, maybe he missed? Although, could still be paranormal as he describes in Uncanny that "big black silhouette" which could describe a real creature but in the Bigfoot and Beyond podcast he terms it "that big black nothingness" which sounds a bit more paranormal.

Also, just after 24 mins he calls Cousin John "Pete". Could just be that John is a pseudonym but I thought it was interesting.
 
Paul_Exeter said:
Anyone missing the British Uncanny might want to try the following show with seven paranormal witness interviews and a resident skeptic and believer:

Inspectre Paranormal​

Tom Barrow​

podcast art

Inspectre Paranormal shines a light deep into the dark corners of the world of the unexplained and investigates some very strange ghostly phenomena! Each episode features the first-hand spoken testimonies from real-life witnesses, who've experienced some baffling and terrifying encounters. Each week, Host Tom Barrow takes on a brand new case and is joined by a team of experts.

An example episode:

S1. Episode 6: Gallows Court​

University student Chris has just started his new job - working at a Laser Quest in the Northern England city of Carlisle. However, beyond the dry smoke and laser beams Chris soon discovers through some terrifying encounters of his own, that the building (previously the site of the city’s most infamous prison) might still be holding on-to it's dark and mysterious past. In this first of a two part investigation, the Inspectre team set to find out what happened and uncover the truth. Hosted by Tom Barrow, this

https://sites.libsyn.com/510723?fbc...hon0afypi31Aefe_EEY1Px4FFCiF54S3hmW1d1XEeEtI0


Bloody Hell Ken...!
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Tom Barrow contacted me a while back with the view to recording a podcast sometime in the future about an experience I wrote about in Oakham. I'd written about that here then cut and pasted it to a facebook page Escargot had directed me to for people sharing ghost experiences which is where him and his team found it.

We've put the interview on hold because I'm not feeling up to it at the moment because of health problems. He's said no problem, no time limit and to get well soon. We did chat on the phone for about an hour though and he's dead friendly so I'm going to feel at ease when the interview eventually does happen. I didn't realise he's got a resident sceptic but I don't mind that. I've already directed him to this forum and he's asked me to thank people here for sharing his podcasts. With any luck, he'll join this forum.
 
lordmongrove said:
Uncanny: Bigfoot part 2
The sceptic is out and out lying here. Bears can flip rocks but they are physically incapable of picking them up and hurling them in the ways described here.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001znp4
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Until I listened to this episode last night, I had no idea how fond bears are of picking up and indeed throwing rocks.
That's not to say categorically that bears were to blame for the incident, but the sceptic was hardly "lying" when she said that bears have been observed throwing rocks.
Just love that shot of the Polar Bear looking like all he wants is a snowball fight!
As with pretty well every claimed Bigfoot account, all we're left with is anecdotal evidence and the sceptic did the right thing by proffering an explanation using known, rather than unknown creatures.

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blessmycottonsocks said:
Until I listened to this episode last night, I had no idea how fond bears are of picking up and indeed throwing rocks.
That's not to say categorically that bears were to blame for the incident, but the sceptic was hardly "lying" when she said that bears have been observed throwing rocks.
Just love that shot of the Polar Bear looking like all he wants is a snowball fight!
As with pretty well every claimed Bigfoot account, all we're left with is anecdotal evidence and the sceptic did the right thing by proffering an explanation using known, rather than unknown creatures.

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Wow, they have professional hecklers over there...? In other news, bear p*ssed off with being kept in captivity

So it is a cracking campfire tale and many will argue it represents further evidence for Bigfoot being much more aggressive in Alaska. The witness is compelling but alas offers up no further witnesses or evidence (plenty of guns but no digital cameras). Makes for an episode that will thrill the great majority of Uncanny listeners but it falls short of being an actual investigation as, for example, Danny does not explore other violent encounters with Alaska's Bigfoot. Also the area is so remote that is unlikely Danny will receive an email from a listener who has also spent the night there. Likewise, the trip to Bluff Creek was essentially just filler as Danny didn't touch on the whole controversy behind what happened to film after shooting, who Patterson and Gimlin were, the failed attempts to replicate the footage etc.

I appreciate that space will have been a factor here and that Danny could - and perhaps should - devote an entire series to Patterson-Gimlin and Patty alone. But, truth be told, I would much rather listen to someone from Nantwich describe how Roman soldiers marched through their living room, learn about the Roman history of that area, archaeological finds and listeners' own experiences than tales from the deepest depths of America. Others will disagree. of course.
 
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