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If bodies are so brittle at that temperature, it's another nail in the coffin for the cryogenics movement, as any accidental knocks could leave the body very badly cracked (I remember reading somewhere that an X-ray of one of the cryonauts showed their brain to be cracked in several places). Even with nanotechnology, there'll be limits to the damage that can be repaired.

The technique sounds fairly eco-friendly, though you'd still have to expend energy to produce the liquid nitrogen.
 
(I remember reading somewhere that an X-ray of one of the cryonauts showed their brain to be cracked in several places).

Perhaps they were cracked to begin with?
 
A chilling way to say the final farewell

The Times October 13, 2005

A chilling way to say the final farewell
By Helen Nugent




A LOCAL authority is considering freeze-drying corpses as an environmentally friendly alternative to cremation or burial.

The technique, called promession, involves dipping the body in liquid nitrogen. Vibration then shatters it into powder.

Officials from Crewe and Nantwich Borough Council, in Cheshire, are planning a fact-finding trip to Sweden, where a town in the south aims to be the first to adopt the technique.

Mary Slinn, the council’s cemetery and crematoria manager, said: “This is an alternative system of dealing with bodies as opposed to burial or cremation. It’s very similar to the cremation but it’s totally emission free, hence it’s something which should at least be investigated.”

The pioneering process freezes the body very quickly, then immersing in liquid nitrogen to cool it to -196C. This makes the body so brittle that even a jolt can cause it to crumble. After shattering, the remains are dried and any moisture vaporised, removing about 70 per cent of the original weight. The remains are then placed in a metal separator which removes surgical parts such as replacement hips and metal fillings.

When the process is complete, relatives can opt to bury their loved ones in a coffin made from corn or potato starch. This is put in a shallow grave where it will disintegrate within 6 to 12 months.

Family members would be encouraged to plant a tree on the grave, and the compost formed by the body would give life to the tree. There would be no headstone.

Promession should cost about the same as cremation.

“The idea came to my attention when I was on holiday at the beginning of last year,” Mrs Slinn said. “I read an article about it and the idea of going back into the life cycle really appealed to me.

“It’s very, very feasible to think that this will become common practice. I am sure it will catch on eventually.”

Her council has established a task group to investigate the long-term benefits of promession with a view to phasing out cremations as early as 2007.

As cremations account for about 70 per cent of the 650,000 funerals in Britain every year, the negative environmental effect of mercury emissions from crematoria has become a cause for concern.

Susanne Wiigh-Masak, a Swedish biologist who conceived the idea, named it promession because, she said, it was the promise to return to the earth what emerged from the earth.

Next year Jonkoping, in southern Sweden, will turn its crematorium into a so-called promatorium.

Jonkoping’s decision to convert its crematorium was driven by European environmental laws which meant that the town faced a multimillion-pound bill for a new gascleaning system and furnace at its 50-year-old facility.

WAYS TO GO


LifeGem, in Hove, East Sussex, charges between £2,000 and £13,000 for a diamond pendant or ring made from the carbon of human ashes

Motorcycle Funerals offers a final ride, at £1.10 a mile, in a motorbike and sidecar — one way only

Space Services, in Houston, Texas, charges £570 a gram for a loved one’s ashes to be blasted into space

Eternal Reefs, an American company, adds the ashes of a relative or friend to a commercial reef in the Gulf of Mexico. Prices vary but the top rate is £2,900

Heavens Above Fireworks gives displays of rockets containing cremation ashes. Prices start at £1,500













Copyright 2005 Times Newspapers Ltd
 
I always liked the idea of compressing the human remains into an artificial diamond. That's one heck of a family heirloom and as more family members die, they can be added to a set of family jewels.
 
Not a bad idea and is quicker and more enviorementally friend and they still get to put the remains in an urn.

I always liked the idea of compressing the human remains into an artificial diamond. That's one heck of a family heirloom and as more family members die, they can be added to a set of family jewels.

That'd be one expensive heirloom and you get to take your family everywhere when wearing it.
 
Space date set for Scotty's ashes

Space date set for Scotty's ashes
Star Trek actor James Doohan, who played Scotty in the series, will have his final wish granted when his ashes are sent into space on 6 December.
Doohan died of Alzheimer's disease and pneumonia in July, aged 85. His ashes will be accompanied by thousands of tributes from fans of the sci-fi show.

"James spent so much time with fans and many want to come to his space blast," a Space Services Inc spokeswoman said.

The firm will fire the ashes into orbit from a California Air Force base.

'Absolutely adored'

"Jimmy absolutely adored playing the role of Scotty on Star Trek," said his widow Wende Doohan in a letter to fans.

"He would have given almost anything to be able to actually go into space.

"He finally gets his wish, I can't think of a more fitting send off than having some of his fans attend this, his final journey."


Mrs Doohan invited fans to contribute extra tribute messages via the Space Services Inc website, "to honour him on his journey to Earth orbit".
Messages will be digitised and put onto a disc that will be included in the rocket that carries Doohan's remains into space from Vandenberg Air Force Base.

The Texas company previously sent the ashes of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry and 1960s drug guru Timothy Leary into space.

Doohan's Star Trek character Scotty manned the Starship Enterprise with Captain James T Kirk, played by Shatner, and Mr Spock, played by Leonard Nimoy.

The original crew lasted for three series, starting in 1966, before the show was axed, but the team reunited for seven big screen movies.

'Beam me up'

Although Doohan became synonymous with the line "Beam me up, Scotty", it was never actually said in the series.

The closest Captain Kirk came to saying it was in the fourth Star Trek movie, when he said "Scotty, beam me up".

Canadian-born Doohan had been a successful character actor on radio and TV before landing the role in the pilot Star Trek episode.

He quickly became typecast as the Scottish space engineer, finding it difficult to get other roles, but he learned to embrace his place in sci-fi history.

His final public appearance was in October 2004 when he received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/e ... 344384.stm

Published: 2005/10/15 08:48:21 GMT

© BBC MMV
 
Ashes of US space pioneer to launch with remains of 'Star Tr

Ashes of US space pioneer to launch with remains of 'Star Trek' actor

One of the first Americans to orbit the Earth will make a final voyage into space when his ashes are rocketed into the cosmos, the company providing the space funeral said Monday.

The ashes of Gordon Cooper, who was part of NASA's Project Mercury that sent the first Americans into space, will join those of "Star Trek" actor James Doohan on a Falcon One rocket launched from California in a yet to be determined date, said Susan Schonfeld of Space Services.

"Gordon always would have taken another space flight had he the opportunity," his widow, Suzan Cooper, told AFP. "This was the next best thing. He certainly wouldn't have said 'No'."

"Gordon firmly believed that after you die you can still observe what was most important to you in life," said Cooper, who was married to him for 32 years. "I have a feeling he will be very much aware of what's going on."

Cooper died in his home in Ventura, California, in October 2004 at the age of 77.

The launch date for the "Explorers Flight" hinged on the success of the maiden flight of a Falcon One rocket slated for February 8 in the Marshall Islands.

Cooper was one of seven men chosen to become the first Americans in space, although the US space program was beaten to the punch by the Russians, who sent Yuri Gagarin into orbit on April 12, 1961.

Alan Shepard was the first American in space on May 5, 1961.

Cooper was the last of the seven Mercury crew members to reach space, but his Faith 7 mission was the longest as he completed 22 orbits in a trip that lasted more than 34 hours to evaluate the effects of spending one day in space.

Two years later, Cooper commanded the Gemini Five mission, on which he and Charles Conrad orbited Earth for eight days, setting an endurance record.

The mission served as proof that astronauts could survive trips to the moon and back. Cooper logged slightly more than 225 hours in space by the time he retired from NASA and the Air Force as a colonel in 1970.

Actor Dennis Quaid played Cooper in the 1983 film "The Right Stuff" about Project Mercury.

Tributary messages left at the Internet website http://www.spacehero.net will be digitized and sent into orbit with Cooper's ashes.

"Love ya man! The Merc Seven are the greatest heroes of all time," a message from Chip Blackburn of the state of Tennessee read on Monday.

"The stars are brighter because of you and the original seven and all that you risked for the exploration of space."

Messages from fans will also accompany the remains of Doohan, who died in July of last year at the age of 85.

The Canadian-born actor played "Star Trek" engineer Scotty, who worked miracles on the Enterprise, a fictional starship used to explore "space, the final frontier" in television shows and films that won a devoted cult of fans.

The memorial flight was postponed last year to allow US Defense Department engineers to sort out engine problems with the Falcon One rocket, according to Charles Chafer of Space Services Inc.

The rocket is to deliver a satellite into orbit. Space Services arranged for the ashes of Cooper, Doohan and others to be packed into a rocket stage that will be jettisoned, then go into a decaying orbit around the Earth.

The stage will incinerate on re-entry into Earth's atmosphere.

The Explorers Flight was billed by Space Services as the largest ever memorial spaceflight, with 168 participants from eight countries aboard.

Space Services, a Texas-based company, has rocketed the remains of "Star Trek" creator Gene Roddenberry and 1960s drug guru Timothy Leary into the firmament.

http://www.physorg.com/printnews.php?newsid=10391
 
In grave with his porn collection!

A 65-year old unmarried Russian man is apparently so attached to his stack of porn magazines, that not only has he decided to be buried with them when he dies, but has also designed a coffin with special space for them.

Vladimir Villisov, who survived a heart attack, said that the experience had made him realise that the girls in the magazines had been his constant companions for years, and that he wanted them to be his companions in the afterlife too.

"The girls in those magazines have been my companions for years, and I want them to accompany me to the next life," Fox News quoted him, as telling Utro newspaper.

link
 
While not as exciting as becoming space debri, it used to be custom where I now live(mountainous area) that family members were buried in the back yard area, a given number of feet from the house.
There are still very old houses and cabins that have "family plots" out back.
I find this a little disturbing for some reason.
 
Oh, and as for being gene spliced into a tree, something a bit creepy about that to me as well.
Images of DR. Zachery Smith as a stalk of celery come to mind.
Oh the pain, the pain.
 
Artist's work solves grave problem

Artist's work solves grave problem
By Alison Freeman
BBC News, London



Emma hopes enough ashes will be donated to create a ceramic forest
Deciding what to do with the ashes of a loved one can be tricky.
Recently there have been complaints that the practice can harm the environment, with areas that have had heavy doses of scattering seeing a change in their flora and fauna.

But one south London art student has come up with a way of using human ash in her ceramics work, turning the deceased into permanent memorials .

Emma Fenelon, 50, from West Norwood, south London, uses the ash in the glazes on the clay trees she is making for the final show of her degree course.

She learnt ash had been used to colour pottery in the past, and human ashes were suitable.

I thought I would be fascinated by that, so I was hoping it would catch people's attention - and it did

Emma Fenelon
Art student

"I started thinking, will different people make different glazes? Will it have a different effect?"

Emma's project looks at the layers which create a tree stump.

At first she used different minerals which related to her life to add texture to the pieces.

These included sand from the beach near the nuclear plant at Sizewell B in Suffolk, where her parents took her when she was a child "because the sea was always warmer there".

"I then realised I needed something personal, but that didn't relate to me," she said.


Michael Wilkinson said his mother would be pleased

She then appealed for people to donate the ashes of relatives on BBC London 94.9 radio station.

"I hoped somebody would come forward, I was sort of in two minds; Will anybody trust me? And then on the other hand I thought I would be fascinated by that, so I was hoping it would catch people's attention - and it did."

One person who answered the appeal was Michael Wilkinson, from Croydon, south London, whose parents Lily and John died more than 10 years ago.

He used to work as a bus driver in the area and regularly drove past the front of the Emma's college in Camberwell.

I'm sure my mother is very pleased - my dad, given long enough to think about it, would come round as well

Michael Wilkinson

"I often used to wonder what went on in here," he said.

"Emma explained everything that she was planning and the more she spoke I just knew this was right for my parents."

Emma re-fires the ashes which makes them change colour - Lily's have gone turquoise.

Mr Wilkinson said his wife and daughters were "absolutely delighted" with the idea and "couldn't wait" to see the finished article.

"A couple of people at work have held my gaze for a few seconds when I tell them, but then say it's a good idea."

Mr Wilkinson is not alone in coming forward with an offer of ashes.


Emma re-fires the ashes so they change colour

"I've had a slow trickle of people saying they'd like to donate some.

"I've got another lady coming next week. I said come and see my work, check me out, see if I'm ok and she said 'No, no, I'm coming with mother'."

It's still not clear what will happen to the trees after Emma's final show in June.

"I'm hoping someone's going to offer us a site - like a sculpture park.

"If people keep coming forward it might turn into a forest and not just a small line of trees," she said.

And how would Mr Wilkinson's parents feel about becoming a piece of art?

"I'm sure my mother is very pleased. My dad, given long enough to think about it, would come round as well," he said.

Emma's work will be shown, along with other final year students', at Camberwell Art College, from 27 June to 1 July.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4989390.stm
 
Although this woman died of heart failure, there's no mention of a pacemaker. But there was another problem:
Woman 'too large' to be cremated

A family have been told their dead mother could not be cremated in her home city because she was too large.
Penelope Stapleton from Norwich, who died last week of a heart attack at the age of 61, weighed 22 stone.

Managers apologised to her family but still told them the coffin was too large for the facilities at Norwich's Earlham crematorium.

Her daughters have now arranged a cremation 120 miles (193km) away in Watford and said they are very angry.

Daughter Natasha Stapleton said: "I know a lot of people who are disgusted by their attitude.

Services not available

"I want people to know about what happened to us and that the crematorium owners are not going to do anything about it.

"When people die you expect they must have respect and we're not getting this.

"It's really upsetting."

The crematorium has apologised to Mrs Stapleton's family but maintained they were unable to offer their services.

Earlham Crematorium manager David Baxter said: "We are very sorry that we can't look after the funeral for this family.

"There have been a couple of funerals in the last two years which we couldn't look after because of the size of the coffins."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/5027008.stm
 
I've read about this problem quite recently. Some councils are quietly importing American cremation equipment because their own is not up to the job of cremating queen-sized coffins.

This was in the British 'papers, and also possibly in one of the ghoulish books that I like to read. :roll:
 
Big Bill Robins~ said:
"Personally I would like to be buried at sea. I'm perfectly serious about this."

Whenever there's a airliner lost at sea many of the bereaved families want the governments of the world to shut down all other functionings until the bodies are retrieved for land burials.

I've never understood all the fuss. What could possibly be more quiet, more secure, more respectful, indeed more beautiful than resting two or three miles down in the ocean?
 
Re: if if IF!!!

ZPumpkinEscobar~ said:
"The state I live in demands embalming to be performed before burial"

Are you absolutely certain of this? Funeral Directors in all 50 states TELL their clients that embalming's "the Law," but in many of those states it is NOT.
 
Exactly why such a smaller "big city" such as Cincinnati, Ohio, has the world's largest public cemetery, and a more-or-less in-town one at that, I know not, but staffers at Spring Grove Cemetery have informed me that they have space to handle burials at the current rate for another 200 to 300 years.

But if current medical speculations as to increassing longevity are correct, shouldn't the death rate be heading sharply downwards over that period?
 
But wouldn't the *number* of deaths be constant, regardless of longevity? The interval changes, that's all. :)
 
Leaferne said:
"But wouldn't the 'number' of deaths be constant, regardless of longevity? The interval changes, that's all. :)"

That's not the way I see it, but I could be in error. If people start living two or three times as long wouldn't a cemetery take two or three times longer to fill up? (Unless the newly-born population expands equally of course.)
 
Many cultures regard a burial site as sacrosanct only until the body has been reduced to bones, at which time the skeletal remains may be unceremoniously dumped into a common pit or even ground up for fertilizer.

On the other hand in the UK and in most sections of the United States and Canada, "an eternal sleep on a peaceful hillside" tends to be regarded as EXACTLY that, "an ETERNAL sleep on that peaceful hillside."

But what should NOT automatically follow is the view that the first cultural view is "good" and the second "evil."
 
OldTimeRadio said:
On the other hand in the UK and in most sections of the United States and Canada, "an eternal sleep on a peaceful hillside" tends to be regarded as EXACTLY that, "an ETERNAL sleep on that peaceful hillside."
Until Time Team come and dig you up again...! 8)
 
Or Meet The Ancestors. :lol:

In an expanding city, the death-birth rate/longevity question is less important than the numbers of incoming residents. Most new city dwellers will eventually need local facilities for their burial or cremation.
 
burials

If people were buried upright, or head first, now that would save some space!

Personally, I'd like to be hung in a tree. Although by then I would have slipped my mortal coil and will be walking amongst the stars. Or I'll have to start this life again, until I get it right, OH Nooooo!

How about being composted in huge silos with grass cuttings and leaves?

Do authorities still use paupers graves? IT was good enough for Mozart.
 
Sad Tale here...

Foetus found buried near church

The remains of a human foetus have been discovered buried in a field near a church on the Isle of Wight.

The remains were found on land near St Blasius Church, Rectory Road, Shanklin, on Saturday. Police think they had been there for several months.

Hampshire Constabulary said it was a "tragic incident" and it is not being treated as suspicious.

Officers are trying find the mother "so that the appropriate help and support can be arranged", a spokesman said.

Police were alerted to the grave in a field behind the church by a member of the public.

Toys, a Christmas card and an Easter egg was found piled on top of the shallow grave.

The police spokesman said the case was not being passed to the coroner as the foetus had never been alive and therefore there was no reason to hold an inquest.

Reverend Alan Swanborough, of St Blasius Church, said: "It's an odd place to have buried it. Maybe they're thinking it was a space as close to the church as they could get.

"I've had to deal with stillborn births before and there is very often a lot of guilt there. [Parents think] could we have done something to prevent this.

"People need a lot of help through it and there is someone there who obviously needs the help.

"The sooner we can find out who it is and get them some professional counselling, the better."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hamp ... 346276.stm
 
Home extension horror as mum discovers ten skeletons buried under her dining room - and faces a £30k bill to move them
By ALISON SMITH-SQUIRE Last updated at 08:20am on 21st April 2008

When Catherine McGuigan began digging an extension in her cottage, she thought she had budgeted for every contingency.

But she could not have prepared for what would emerge after workmen found ten skeletons buried under her dining room.

And now Miss McGuigan, 42, faces a £30,000 bill to give them another resting place.

The gruesome episode began three weeks ago when she found her five builders white as sheets and hugging mugs of tea.

"It was like something out of a horror movie," said Miss McGuigan, who has a son, Cameron, ten, and lived in the cottage for 11 years.

"The men said they had found what they thought was an old pipe but when they pulled it out of the ground they realised it was bone.

"Then they looked down and there in the earth was a skull and the rest of the skeleton."

Miss McGuigan, who had moved out of the cottage during the building work, called police and within minutes her cottage was cordoned off for a forensic search of the hole beneath her dining room.

To her relief, the remains turned out to be over 100 years old and the police did not need to get involved.

But within days of restarting work, another skeleton was found. Since then eight more have been recovered.

"It's been heart-breaking and now I can hardly bear to go to the house.

"Some skeletons are just a few bones but others have been dug up intact actually still in their coffins."

And it is thought up to 40 more bodies could be buried at the cottage in Potters Bar, Hertfordshire – on the site of Quaker burial ground from the 1700s.

And as no one else will take responsibility for the bodies, their disposal has been left to Miss McGuigan. :shock:

"I am staggered that the local council wrote to me saying whilst I did not need a licence to exhume the bodies - because it is not a registered burial site - they still expected me to "show respect" for the dead," she explained.

"And the Quakers have also advised I must cremate them.

"It appears I could simply throw the remains away but I'm concerned there could be legal repercussions I don't know about.

"Anyway, my conscience means I couldn't live with myself in the cottage if I did that."

The Ministry of Justice, the Government body that has responsibility for burial law and practice, told her it was an offence to "offer indignities to the remains of the dead" and warned of health and safety rules.

Miss McGuigan has now ordered coffins from an undertaker and is looking into arrangements for a mass cremation or a burial in a nearby field.

"The undertaker has quoted me £800 per body," she says.

"When it was just a couple of bodies this was fine. But now I am very concerned that if, as expected, I find 40 bodies, I could be facing a bill of some £32,000."

However the IT specialist plans to carry on with her £150,000 extension, which includes a gym and cinema.

"It's been a very happy home and I've done too much work to stop now," she says.

Research at a local library has revealed the cottage was built over an old Quaker meeting house.

Because the worshippers were non-conformists they were not allowed to bury their dead in church graveyards, so they used the garden instead.

And while the discovery of the burial ground might put the faint-hearted off her cottage, Miss McGuigan says her son has no such qualms.

"I feared Cameron would no longer want to live here," she said.

"But thankfully he thinks finding skeletons in our dining room is "cool" and quite exciting!"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... urce=&ct=5
 
Me, I'd refuse to pay all that money for a re-burial.
Surely it's up to the Quakers to take responsibility for this?
 
Mythopoeika said:
Me, I'd refuse to pay all that money for a re-burial.
Surely it's up to the Quakers to take responsibility for this?
I might extend to forking out for some dustbin liners, myself. Black, of course.

I'm sure if you sealed them properly, with the little white plastic coated, wire ties, then couldn't you just leave them out for the dustmen? :confused:
 
No, no, NO!

Im sure there is a market for them in various alternative medicine practices.

and the Goths will love the skulls.
 
"And the Quakers have also advised I must cremate them."

Are modern British and North American Quakers that different? Over here the majority of Quakers bury their dead, just like most other people.

I'm surprised that the Quakers aren't raising funds to re-entomb their own dead. After all the Quakers, like the Mennonites and the Amish, have always prided themselves on self-sufficiency. (Although they would probably not care much for "pride" used in this context.)
 
Im sure there is a market for them in various alternative medicine practices.

even better, pee on all the skeletons, put them back in the ground, then use the house to film poltergeist V (or whatever it's up to).
 
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