Video Nasties - Hip or Hype ?

JamesWhitehead

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Would posters please remember that links to sites with full colour pictures of Murky Commode on them contravene the SayNoToSpunkhair Ruling of 2003.

The proper thing is to warn readers that a sickening image is about to stick to their screen. Thank you for considering the sensibilities of fellow-posters whose toleration of Commode type material may be much lower than your own. :?
 
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JamesWhitehead said:
Would posters please remember that links to sites with full colour pictures of Murky Commode on them contravene the SayNoToSpunkhair Ruling of 2003.

The proper thing is to warn readers that a sickening image is about to stick to their screen. Thank you for considering the sensibilities of fellow-posters whose toleration of Commode type material may be much lower than your own. :?
I thought it was a picture of a Sontaran! :confused:
 

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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/75626/BBC-funds-horror-porn

BBC FUNDS HORROR PORN

A horror film backed by the BBC, which echoes the story of serial killers Fred and Rose West, has sparked fury after it emerged it will be shown on television and in cinemas over Christmas.

The low-budget feature-length film, partly funded by £10,000 of licence-payers’ cash, shows scenes reminiscent of the Wests’ campaign of murder in which they tortured at least 12 girls to death, many in their home in Cromwell Street, Gloucester.

Relatives of the Wests’ victims, MPs and TV watchdogs have slammed the timing of the release of Mum & Dad and accused the BBC of insensitivity and misspending licence fee money.

The company distributing the film admits “there are clear parallels with the Fred and Rosemary West story”. And director Steven Sheil says it is “not for the faint-hearted”.

It will be released in cinemas on Boxing Day and will be available on DVD, on Sky and Virgin pay per view channels and as an internet download.

The BBC said it was not responsible for the release pattern and would not be showing it on any of its channels. Last night Peter Bastholm, 64, whose sister Mary, 15, vanished in 1968 and is thought to have been one of at least 20 more victims of the Wests whose bodies have never been found, said the BBC had been “hugely insensitive”.

Tory MP Nigel Evans, who sits on the culture, media and sport select committee, said the timing of the release and use of licence payers’ money was a “disgrace”. He said: “The timing is sick and it’s a sick film.

“It confirms that the BBC do not live in the real world as far as I’m concerned.”
I assume this has sparked "fury" simply because the Express phoned up these individuals and gave them a one-sided account of a film they have not even seen :lol:

I bet the distributors are happy.
 

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Most likely. Although I don't see where "porn" comes into it. Does it include explicit scenes of the sexual molestation? Or are they just trying to stir up more controversy?
 
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the news papers are at it again the ban this filth crowd and how thay coment on something to no one has seen yet.
 
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Heh, Heh. This comment is at the Express link.

HHHHMMMM......
10.11.08, 2:24pm

Wonder why this was removed???

Finally someone has the moral fibre to stand up for all that is good and decent in this country.

All hail Richard Clive Desmond, current owner of the Express and founder of Northern & Shell Plc, whose titles also include -

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http://www.mediauk.com/owners/35/northern-and-shell



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Hehehe, I bet there'll be something along these lines in Private Eye - they never fail to jump at the chance to point out the Express's constant double-standard.
 

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Looks like the Daily Mail want a return to the dark old days with the release of Lars Von Triers Antichrist raising the blood of a critic.. who hasn't seen it...

What DOES it take for a film to get banned these days?

In the meantime The Art of the Nasty book has been re-released:

FULLY REVISED AND UPDATED. This brand new FAB Press edition has more than 100 new video nasty sleeves, which were not included in the original pressing, to increase the total number of videos covered in the book to almost 450. In addition, the text has been thoroughly revised and updated to reflect the knowledge gained about this era in the intervening 10 years since the book was first published. And this time the book is in hardback format to ensure its long-lasting durability.

The Art of the Nasty explains and conveys the media furore, fear and the rush for political legislation that greeted the arrival of uncensored horror films on video in the UK. The hysteria was generated and fuelled as much by the sleeves and marketing as by the films themselves. In fact, many of the biggest critics of the 'nasties' only ever saw the sleeves. Some of the early video sleeves are indeed an unbelievably bold and over-the-top mixture of outrageous graphics and in-your-face visual shock tactics, guaranteed to offend.
http://www.fabpress.com/vsearch.php?CO=FAB100
 

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OT but is megadeth completely gone since revamp?

Or has he shape-shifted - have been away a long while (was circlebeginning before)
 

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Fortology said:
OT but is megadeth completely gone since revamp?

Or has he shape-shifted - have been away a long while (was circlebeginning before)
He got booted off when he got too angry.
 
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Merely reading what that critic has written there is enough for me to form a judgement of him too, but I really can't say such things on a family website where decent people might read it.
 

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So THIS is what it takes to banned nowadays...

Japanese horror movie Grotesque banned by BBFC

Film chiefs have taken the unusual step of refusing to give a certificate to Grotesque, a sadistic Japanese horror movie.

Published: 9:57AM BST 19 Aug 2009

Distributors of Japanese movie Grotesque had hoped to be given an 18 certificate for the film, which involves torture such as amputation and eye-gouging.

But the British Board of Film Classification said the film featured sexual sadism for its own sake. It said that giving the film a rating would involve a ''risk of harm'' to those viewing it.

Selling or supplying the film would now be illegal.

The BBFC rejects films only rarely, preferring to give advice about how appropriate cuts would achieve the preferred certificate.

The decision was taken by BBFC director, David Cooke and senior colleagues.

The board said the majority of the film focused on the assault, humiliation and torture of two victims. The main character takes them prisoner abducts, restrains, strips and sexually assaults them before inflicting horrific injuries until they die.

Mr Cooke said: ''Unlike other recent 'torture'-themed horror works, such as the Saw and Hostel series, Grotesque features minimal narrative or character development and presents the audience with little more than an unrelenting and escalating scenario of humiliation, brutality and sadism. The chief pleasure on offer seems to be in the spectacle of sadism (including sexual sadism) for its own sake.

''Rejecting a work outright is a serious matter and the board considered whether the issue could be dealt with through cuts. However, given the unacceptable content featured throughout cutting the work is not a viable option in this case and the work is therefore refused a classification.''

The BBFC rates around 10,000 films for DVD release each year.

The last film which the BBFC rejected for an 18 certificate was the 2004 movie Murder Set Pieces, which was turned down in 2008.

Until that, it had not refused an 18 rating since 2005 when the film Terrorists, Killers And Other Wackos - made up of real clips of execution and torture - was turned down.
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#79
I'm normally very wary of censorship, but if the description above is accurate, then "Grotesque" seems to serve no purpose other than to serve up brutal violence for its own sake. As the article says, the Hostel and Saw films are pretty gratuitous, but it is just about possible to watch them and claim you found the plots compelling, and didn't just watch them for the torture scenes!

Maybe this decision has drawn a line in the sand regarding the acceptable limits of "Gorno" films.
 

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Unfortunately, it just means that the sales of the film from dodgy outlets, market stalls and chaps with suitcases on the corner, will go through the roof...
 

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#81
It might not, actually, I think there's a smaller market for this kind of thing than the BBFC believe. Don't show it to Charlie Sheen, though, he might think it's real.
 

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Loophole over DVD age rating law

Retailers who sell violent video games and 18-rated DVDs to children cannot be prosecuted because of a legal blunder 25 years ago.

Dozens of prosecutions under a 1984 Act have been dropped because the government of the day failed to notify the European Commission about the law.


But previous prosecutions will stand, according to the Department for Culture Media and Sport (DCMS).

The Lib Dems said the error had "thrown film censorship into chaos".

The Video Recordings Act (VRA) was brought in by Margaret Thatcher's government and set down that videos and video games must be classified and age rated by the British Board of Film Classification.

It made it illegal to sell violent video games to children and the most explicit adult films could be sold only in licensed sex shops.

'Unfortunate situation'

Culture Media and Sport Minister Barbara Follett has written to the industry bodies to inform them the act was "no longer enforceable".

In her letter, she said: "Unfortunately, the discovery of this omission means that, a quarter of a century later, the VRA is no longer enforceable against individuals in United Kingdom courts."

Mrs Follett said the government hoped to remedy the "unfortunate situation" as quickly as possible.

She asked the industry bodies to handle the situation with "care and sensitivity" to ensure "minimal" advantage is taken of the loophole.

The loophole means no-one can be prosecuted until the law is passed again and that will take three months.

A spokeswoman from the government department said retailers had agreed to keep to the rules on a voluntary basis and previous prosecutions will still stand.

"Our legal advice is that those previously prosecuted will be unable to overturn their prosecution or receive financial recompense," she said.

'Outrageous' delay

Ministry of Justice figures for 2007, the latest available, show 87 people were convicted under the act for offences including supplying material which should be sold only in sex shops and selling unclassified work.

The Liberal Democrat's culture spokesman Don Foster said: "The Conservatives' incompetence when they were in government has made laws designed to prevent video piracy and protect children from harmful DVDs unenforceable and thrown film censorship into chaos.

"This must be a massive embarrassment to the Tories, especially as David Cameron was the special adviser to the home secretary in 1993 when the law was amended."

But the shadow culture secretary Jeremy Hunt said it was "outrageous" such an administrative error could go unnoticed for so many years.

"Much of the problem would have been avoided if they had sorted out the classification of video games earlier, as we and many others in the industry have been urging them to do," he added.

The error was discovered during work on the UK government's Digital Britain project, which aims to boost broadband and new media in the UK.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8219438.stm
 

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I gave in and downloaded Grotesque and as much as it pains me to agree with the BBFC, it is worthless and just gore for gores sake. There's nothing in it at all which redeems it as ny more than a piece of violent porn, even if they try to spin out the 73 minute running time with something like a backstory for the two victims who are tortured.

I don't agree with the banning though, it's needless and there's Hollywood blockbusters that have a sanitised view of violence (GI Joe for example) that's just as bad as what's seen in Grotesque, even if it's not as blood soaked.
 

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The Mail article is not about the embarrassing legal loophole that emerged this year but concentrates on the Exempt certification given to material of a documentary, factual or musical nature.

The Mail thoughtfully supplies a checklist for any under-aged kiddies wishing to access the outpourings of death-metal meat-heads prematurely.

By the same token, perhaps I could interest them in a video where a crazed woman axes her mother and lover then dances herself to death in a sexual paroxism. Or one where a pair of women - one cross-dressed - wake up in bed together and plot a curious sexual revenge on a lecherous relative. Or one where a queer fisherman beats his apprentices to death. Welcome to the world of opera, kiddies . . . :shock:

Lots of shocking historical stuff is available to children under the E certificate, including footage of atomic bomb injuries and the liberation of the concentration camps. It's not likely to be a favourite way to spend pocket money, despite the Mail's sterling efforts to make E stand for Exciting. :(
 

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So FrightFest 2010 is underway, and they are showing a new Video Nasty doc on Monday --

http://www.frightfest.co.uk/09films/videonasties.html

And then at the last minute the festival fell foul to its own censorship problems:

A Serbian Film pulled from FrightFest

London film festival decides not to show heavily cut version demanded by BBFC and Westminster council insisting that 'a film of this nature should be shown in its entirety'

A controversial film that pivots around a scene of self-styled "newborn porn" has been pulled from the schedule of London's FrightFest film festival after Westminster council ruled it could not be shown in its uncut version. Directed by Srdjan Spasojevic, A Serbian Film had been due to screen at the Empire cinema in Leicester Square on Sunday.

A Serbian Film tells the tale of a former porn star who is lured out of retirement and contains a scene that depicts the rape of a newborn baby. According to its director, the scene is entirely justified. "This is a diary of our own molestation by the Serbian government," says Spasojevic. "It's about the monolithic power of leaders who hypnotise you to do things you don't want to do. You have to feel the violence to know what it's about."

But the British Board of Film Classification were less convinced and demanded 49 individual cuts that amount to nearly four minutes of screen time. "The film-makers have stated that A Serbian Film is intended as an allegory about Serbia itself," admitted a BBFC spokeswoman. "The board recognises that the images are intended to shock, but the sexual and sexualised violence goes beyond what is acceptable under current BBFC guidelines [for an 18-certificate]."

FrightFest initially planned to show the picture in its original uncut version, but were overruled by the local council. "FrightFest has decided not to show A Serbian Film in a heavily cut version because, as a festival with a global integrity, we think a film of this nature should be shown in its entirety as per the director's intention," said the event's co-director Ian Jones.

A Serbian Film was first unveiled at the South-by-Southwest festival earlier this year where it appeared to pole-axe most reviewers "I think the film is tragic, sickening, disturbing, twisted, absurd, infuriated, and actually quite intelligent," wrote the critic Scott Weinberg. "I admire and detest it at the same time. And I will never watch it again. Ever."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/aug ... frightfest

Westminster council also insist the showing of the I Spit On Your Grave remake - billed as uncut - must now be the BBFC approved version, which is missing 21 seconds.
 

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Watched 'The Exterminator' shown on the horror channel last night as part of it's banned season. What a lot of crap.
 

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Always had a certain fondness for The Exterminator, it's not as bad as some of it's fellow 'nasties', even if it is essentially Death Wish remade with much more sadistic executions of the bad guys.

Did they keep the bit in where he drills out the bullets and fills them with mercury before he shoots the paedo in the transparent macintosh with them? :lol: That tends to get cut. :lol:
 

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Yes fair enough, I suppose I have in a way, because it was about the first film I ever rented out on Betamax. I watched it while my parents were at my last J4 PTA evening. They came back and saw it, and all in all finding their ten year old watching a film which contained a 'chicken place' and someone being fed into a meat mincer was the cherry on that particularly unsuccessful evening's cake. I remember the beginning really freaked me out.

Did they keep the bit in where he drills out the bullets and fills them with mercury before he shoots the paedo in the transparent macintosh with them?
The one in the chicken place? if so yes that was there, as was the mercury into the bullets scene.

even if it is essentially Death Wish remade with much more sadistic executions of the bad guys.
Yes I always thought the Exterminator came first but apparently not. Regarding Death Wish though the exterminator himself is a lot more sadistic overall the film isn't as I remember. At least the Exterminator is less misogynistic in it's justification for the violence that follows. I mean there was a prolonged gang rape scene of a mother and daughter in Death Wish that was never shown on the TV version, now that I think is really unsavory. After that feeding someone to rats seems like tame stuff.
 

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Yes, some of the others were really both nasty and crap, I Spit On Your Grave being one which is both and that I don;t think I ever want to see again, along with the Faces of Death series, which are pretty harrowing whether the content is real or fake. The Exterminator really does look like Shakespeare compared to some of the worse offerings.
 
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