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Weird Personal Names

Belcalis Marlenis Almánzar Cephus.

I love this! I want to be called this!

Edit to add: classical or pseudo classical names were given by slave owners, usually interpreted as being a form of mockery. There is a book for children from the early 1900s titled Epaminondas. The original was an ancient Theban general.
 
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Years ago I worked with and played football with somebody called Craig Mcbeth - a sensible Scottish surname and first name pairing - but he was a huge, and I mean huge, Star Wars fan.

So his son, who I'm sure never gets ribbed at school, is called...oh, yes... Anekin Lucas Maximus McBeth!

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/14158792.star-wars-mad-dad-gave-son-jedi-themed-name/

OMG! At least there's some choice there... naming your child only Little John (or whatever) is just cruel.
 
Whilst on the beach on holiday a woman was shouting her son "Raffaello" to come out of the water. Not that weird a name really, but certainly not the name you would expect an English boy (which he was) to have. My youngest turned to me and yelled in incredulous tones "Raffaello! What the?...", before I managed to cut him off. In George's mind it was the most ridiculous name ever.
 
Whilst on the beach on holiday a woman was shouting her son "Raffaello" to come out of the water. Not that weird a name really, but certainly not the name you would expect an English boy (which he was) to have. My youngest turned to me and yelled in incredulous tones "Raffaello! What the?...", before I managed to cut him off. In George's mind it was the most ridiculous name ever.
I wonder if his parents were fans of these tasty treats.... (if so, I'm with them - and so are my kids, Ferrero and Rocher)
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certainly not the name you would expect an English boy (which he was) to have. My youngest turned to me and yelled in incredulous tones "Raffaello! What the?...", before I managed to cut him off. In George's mind it was the most ridiculous name ever.

Wouldn't really be remarkable in Scotland. Lots of italians. How old is George?
 
Clifford T. Ward wrote some achingly beautiful songs and lyrics - I 'discovered' him about 4 years ago, his story is rather sad, or rather a life that maybe wasn't totally fulfilled, he died fairly young of MS I believe. His lyrics are wistful poetry, and he deserves to be more known and appreciated...

 
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It may seem like a weird personal name to us now, but I suppose at one time many people would've had that middle name in homage to Beethoven (if not due to direct family nominative tradition).

And Dr. H is only 'Gay' I'd heard of, aside previously from the eponymous Gay Byrne (famed Irish broadcaster and media personality).

I'n surprised to be told by Wiki that his registered firstname at birth was actually Gabriel, and that for him the given name 'Gay' was simply a further truncated shortening of the familial 'Gabe'.

I wonder if 'Gay' as a 1900s recorded first-name had its origins in this specific trajectory of abbreviation, or if it was merely a quasi-adjectival baptismal name resonant with eg Faith / Joy / Hope etc (albeit known only to me as female firstnames: or am I 20thC blindsighted on this, as I was with Shirley and Marion ?)

Gay was the 795th most common given name (forename) in the USA in 1990, and Gaye the 1,295th most common female given name in the same year.

I am in the UK and have a cousin aged in her early 50s (?) whose middle name is Gaye.

Gay is also a fairly common surname - for example, Tyson Gay, the sprinter.

I have spent much of my life in a Morris dance/folk song environment, and English folksongs are full of gay fusiliers marching to war, and ploughboys (US = plow boys) rising in the morning, bright and gay.

Of course, the word is now commonly used either as an adjective or noun in connection with (mainly male) homosexuality. That does not in any sense detract from its other meanings.

However, for a long time, back in the 1980s or thereabouts, when the word occurred in a song, it often invoked a smirk at the "double entendre". These days, we are generally more aware of and comfortable with homosexuality, and that double entendre effect has sort of died a natural death.


I don't know about the USA, but in England, the word "randy" means "horny" or "ready to have sex." Back in the 1980s, there was an American guy who worked at a scuba dive centre I used to use regularly. He once rang me at work unexpectedly (I think to tell me a piece of kit I'd ordered weeks ago had come in) and I picked up the phone to be greeted with, "Hi, Mike, I'm Randy." Didn't half surprise me until I worked out who it was!
 
A more archaic meaning of 'gay' meant not only cheerful but also sometimes happy in a raffish way. A possibility of being sexually unrestrained to some extent but not disgracefully so.

Techy has a middle-aged female cousin called Gaye.
 
A more archaic meaning of 'gay' meant not only cheerful but also sometimes happy in a raffish way. A possibility of being sexually unrestrained to some extent but not disgracefully so.

Techy has a middle-aged female cousin called Gaye.
late 14c., "full of joy, merry; light-hearted, carefree;" also "wanton, lewd, lascivious" (late 12c. as a surname, Philippus de Gay), from Old French gai "joyful, happy; pleasant, agreeably charming; forward, pert; light-colored" (12c.; compare Old Spanish gayo, Portuguese gaio, Italian gajo, probably French loan-words). The ultimate origin is disputed; perhaps from Frankish *gahi (related to Old High German wahi "pretty"), though not all etymologists accept this.

The meaning "stately and beautiful; splendid and showily dressed" is from early 14c. Of things, "sumptuous, showy, rich, ornate," mid-14c. of colors, etc., "shining, glittering, gleaming, bright, vivid," late 14c.; of persons, "dressed up, decked out in finery," also late 14c. In the English of Yorkshire and Scotland formerly it could mean "moderately, rather, considerable" (1796; compare the sense development in pretty (adj.)).

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=gay
 
late 14c., "full of joy, merry; light-hearted, carefree;" also "wanton, lewd, lascivious" (late 12c. as a surname, Philippus de Gay), from Old French gai "joyful, happy; pleasant, agreeably charming; forward, pert; light-colored" (12c.; compare Old Spanish gayo, Portuguese gaio, Italian gajo, probably French loan-words). The ultimate origin is disputed; perhaps from Frankish *gahi (related to Old High German wahi "pretty"), though not all etymologists accept this.

The meaning "stately and beautiful; splendid and showily dressed" is from early 14c. Of things, "sumptuous, showy, rich, ornate," mid-14c. of colors, etc., "shining, glittering, gleaming, bright, vivid," late 14c.; of persons, "dressed up, decked out in finery," also late 14c. In the English of Yorkshire and Scotland formerly it could mean "moderately, rather, considerable" (1796; compare the sense development in pretty (adj.)).

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=gay
Heh, I defined it form memory. :nods:
 
I don't know about the USA, but in England, the word "randy" means "horny" or "ready to have sex." Back in the 1980s, there was an American guy who worked at a scuba dive centre I used to use regularly. He once rang me at work unexpectedly (I think to tell me a piece of kit I'd ordered weeks ago had come in) and I picked up the phone to be greeted with, "Hi, Mike, I'm Randy." Didn't half surprise me until I worked out who it was!
Randy Vanwarmer - US singer/songwriter

I remember an interview with the Damned years ago when Rat Scabies remarked he’d met a few randy van warmers whilst touring.
 
I wonder how one feels if one's name appears here.... :glum:

Are there any figures on how often Karen appears over the last 10 years?
 
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I wonder how one feels if one's name appears here.... :glum:

Are there any figures on how often Karen appears over the last 10 years?
I'm sure if one's name appears here one has had to answer quite a lot of questions over the years already and is probably perfectly used to the reaction.

My youngest daughter's name is Riyadh (yes, as in the capital of Saudi Arabia). Most people think it's Welsh, because people are, in general, stupid.
 
Wouldn't really be remarkable in Scotland. Lots of italians. How old is George?
10

not many Italians where we live.

Gay was the 795th most common given name (forename) in the USA in 1990, and Gaye the 1,295th most common female given name in the same year.

I am in the UK and have a cousin aged in her early 50s (?) whose middle name is Gaye.

Gay is also a fairly common surname - for example, Tyson Gay, the sprinter.

I have spent much of my life in a Morris dance/folk song environment, and English folksongs are full of gay fusiliers marching to war, and ploughboys (US = plow boys) rising in the morning, bright and gay.

Of course, the word is now commonly used either as an adjective or noun in connection with (mainly male) homosexuality. That does not in any sense detract from its other meanings.

However, for a long time, back in the 1980s or thereabouts, when the word occurred in a song, it often invoked a smirk at the "double entendre". These days, we are generally more aware of and comfortable with homosexuality, and that double entendre effect has sort of died a natural death.


I don't know about the USA, but in England, the word "randy" means "horny" or "ready to have sex." Back in the 1980s, there was an American guy who worked at a scuba dive centre I used to use regularly. He once rang me at work unexpectedly (I think to tell me a piece of kit I'd ordered weeks ago had come in) and I picked up the phone to be greeted with, "Hi, Mike, I'm Randy." Didn't half surprise me until I worked out who it was!
There used to be an engineer who worked for an IT Company we worked with called Randy Bender.
 
Wouldn't really be remarkable in Scotland. Lots of italians. How old is George?
George is 10. Not many Italians where we live.

The kid on the beach had an older brother with an equally unusual name that I seem to think was either Octavian or Octavius. Their sister had the comparatively normal name of Gabriella.
 
George is 10. Not many Italians where we live.

The kid on the beach had an older brother with an equally unusual name that I seem to think was either Octavian or Octavius. Their sister had the comparatively normal name of Gabriella.
All those names sound at least European. I'd guess that they had an Italian grandparent or two.
 
House of Names dot com says: <<The name Fidler was brought to England by the Normans when they conquered the country in 1066. The ancestors of the Fidler family lived in or near the settlement of Vis-de-lou in Normandy. Over time, the pronunciation of this place-name changed into Fidler.>> It also suggests <<English (of Norman origin): perhaps from the Old French phrase vis de leuu ‘wolf's face’ from Old French vis (from Latin visus) ‘face’ + leuu (from Latin lupus ‘wolf’).>>

This spelling of Fidler with one d as a surname is fairly common. Fiddler as in "one who plays a violin" or "one who fiddles" is less common.
 
I'm sure I've mentioned this before but... when I was at school, our cookery teacher was a lady called Mrs Shorthose. Her husband was part of the Exeter Fire Brigade, which used to give everyone a lot of laughs and also features in the Nominative Determinism thread.
 
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