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. . . when you find that one and laugh, don't go on to the Pain Olympics*! :loopy:

*There are disclaimers on the clips that what you are about to witness are CGI effects. It is one region of the internet where that is unlikely to be the case.
I have witnessed, eyes agog and jaw dropped at the spectacle of the Pain Olympics. In a previous life I was a graphic/web designer and on occasion I designed or created the graphics for adult websites. There was not much that I had not seen... or so I thought.
 

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I have witnessed, eyes agog and jaw dropped at the spectacle of the Pain Olympics. In a previous life I was a graphic/web designer and on occasion I designed or created the graphics for adult websites. There was not much that I had not seen... or so I thought.
Yes I still suffer PTSD from when I watched that (jk). Never again.
 

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Yes I still suffer PTSD from when I watched that (jk). Never again.
As the old saying goes ''There are some things that cannot be unseen.'' For those amongst us who have no idea what we're discussing, just remember, curiosity killed the cat. Watch at your peril as you will be traumatized.
 

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just remember, curiosity killed the cat. Watch at your peril as you will be traumatized.
OK - An excellent introduction to what, not traumatized, but rather 'blew my mind" observation of what I was
aware of but could never accept - Here goes:

Male, Female, and 'Shemale'???

Deviant, anomalie, or genuine hybrid ???

Background: As I have stated, I am a 'Scienceftictionalist" and we sciecncefictionalists take all possibilites for the
future to be possibilities until proven otherwise - So why would even I have a problem with an apparently
common anomaly - the shemale?

CAUTION: Stop reading this if you can not accept weird sexuality.

Quick description - A shemale is a very feminine, often quiet beautiful female with a male organ in place of
the female vagina - and usually normal to well endowed.

In my relatively long life I thought I saw everything and was aware of drag queens and even might of heard of
shemales - but never could or had any desire wrap my mind around this phenomena.

But I am an old entertainment junkie - And have seen so much science fiction in the last few years
- that I often believe...........that's for another post....

So what's left to watch that's different, interesting and won't put me to sleep? - Of course their is always erotica,
now called porn - And the internet is swimming in it - And nobody is forcing anyone to watch it - So why not?

But If I, an old man with callouses on his brain, can be disturbed by some things - Maybe, just maybe, porn isn't
for everyone - they tell me there are self-help groups for people who claim to be hopelessly addicted
- But then again some people are addicted to violence - What's the greater threat to the future?

OK- back to the future.

Being a normal {?} connoisseur of today's erotica I watch mainly heterosexual and lesbian erotica
- They say heteroseual males freely accept Lesbian sex and right from the beginning of the modern era
when {at least in the US} the courts gave up on trying to define obscenity and in essence legalized
hardcore pornogarapy, the mainstream {shown in middle class suburban neighborhoods throughout the US}
had in most of these earley endeavors at least one lesbian scene in the other wise straight hetrosexual
movie.

So I'm watching the normal erotica and up pops a shemale? - Can't accept it, scroll down and find something
normal - But I'm a sciencefictionalist - Maybe, just maybe I want to see something different.

So I ask a rather hip girl friend of someone - what are they {shemales} - She tells me the're women.

So I try watching a coupe of their films {all free} and try to see them as anomalous women
- sure its freaky - but remember I'm a sciencefictionaltist - We accept the weird
- We are waiting to meet those aliens that oddly moving UFO craft postulate as real.

So I watch them awhile - Interesting if viewed as anomalous females - Most are very feminine and often
could be seen as beautiful - Some that you might meet in public would quite easily pass as female,
- until........

Maybe I would have let it go at that as I do not expect many people to take, what apparently has become
common these days seriously and normally neither would I.

But I'm watching this film showing an English shemale, quite beautiful by anyone's standards, being
degraded - It bothered me - How much money is she making for them? - Sure she is a libertine by
nature and does whatever - But who are these punks to degrade beauty, even if it is strange.

Maybe now you know why those hypothetical, and probably real, aliens from other worlds, that can be
postulated from UFO craft that move in ways Human tech can not, refuse to talk directly to Humans!!!

Back to now - Have you seen or known any shemales - What do you think of this phenomena?
 

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OK - An excellent introduction to what, not traumatized, but rather 'blew my mind" observation of what I was
aware of but could never accept - Here goes:

Male, Female, and 'Shemale'???

Deviant, anomalie, or genuine hybrid ???

Background: As I have stated, I am a 'Scienceftictionalist" and we sciecncefictionalists take all possibilites for the
future to be possibilities until proven otherwise - So why would even I have a problem with an apparently
common anomaly - the shemale?

CAUTION: Stop reading this if you can not accept weird sexuality.

Quick description - A shemale is a very feminine, often quiet beautiful female with a male organ in place of
the female vagina - and usually normal to well endowed.

In my relatively long life I thought I saw everything and was aware of drag queens and even might of heard of
shemales - but never could or had any desire wrap my mind around this phenomena.

But I am an old entertainment junkie - And have seen so much science fiction in the last few years
- that I often believe...........that's for another post....

So what's left to watch that's different, interesting and won't put me to sleep? - Of course their is always erotica,
now called porn - And the internet is swimming in it - And nobody is forcing anyone to watch it - So why not?

But If I, an old man with callouses on his brain, can be disturbed by some things - Maybe, just maybe, porn isn't
for everyone - they tell me there are self-help groups for people who claim to be hopelessly addicted
- But then again some people are addicted to violence - What's the greater threat to the future?

OK- back to the future.

Being a normal {?} connoisseur of today's erotica I watch mainly heterosexual and lesbian erotica
- They say heteroseual males freely accept Lesbian sex and right from the beginning of the modern era
when {at least in the US} the courts gave up on trying to define obscenity and in essence legalized
hardcore pornogarapy, the mainstream {shown in middle class suburban neighborhoods throughout the US}
had in most of these earley endeavors at least one lesbian scene in the other wise straight hetrosexual
movie.

So I'm watching the normal erotica and up pops a shemale? - Can't accept it, scroll down and find something
normal - But I'm a sciencefictionalist - Maybe, just maybe I want to see something different.

So I ask a rather hip girl friend of someone - what are they {shemales} - She tells me the're women.

So I try watching a coupe of their films {all free} and try to see them as anomalous women
- sure its freaky - but remember I'm a sciencefictionaltist - We accept the weird
- We are waiting to meet those aliens that oddly moving UFO craft postulate as real.

So I watch them awhile - Interesting if viewed as anomalous females - Most are very feminine and often
could be seen as beautiful - Some that you might meet in public would quite easily pass as female,
- until........

Maybe I would have let it go at that as I do not expect many people to take, what apparently has become
common these days seriously and normally neither would I.

But I'm watching this film showing an English shemale, quite beautiful by anyone's standards, being
degraded - It bothered me - How much money is she making for them? - Sure she is a libertine by
nature and does whatever - But who are these punks to degrade beauty, even if it is strange.

Maybe now you know why those hypothetical, and probably real, aliens from other worlds, that can be
postulated from UFO craft that move in ways Human tech can not, refuse to talk directly to Humans!!!

Back to now - Have you seen or known any shemales - What do you think of this phenomena?
The less politically correct term used to be 'chicks with dicks' .. but that was back in '94 and probably even earlier. I've never personally met a beautiful woman who's then gone on to whip her cock out in front of me but I'm sure it could happen one day, my mate Craig keeps sending me facebook vids of them for some reason .. the old film The Crying Game deals with hermaphrodites in a sensitive manner. I'd expect the trailer is on youtube.

edit: lesson to learn .. always listen to your barman

 

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the old film The Crying Game deals with hermaphrodites in a sensitive manner. I'd expect the trailer is on youtube.
I know they also pop-up on the mega porn site I was watching - I can't process that.

Shemales my mind accepts as a kind of 'YIN- YANG' {oriental philosophy/religion} unity of yin and yang in one body.
- Though I wonder about the medical problems that might result when the hormones of two sexes
are raging in tn the same body? - How long do they live, do they burn-out at an early age?

Apparently the hermaphrodites have their own group too - But like I say I can't watch it.
True hermaphroditism would seem to be a medical anomaly that..........?? But I'm no expert.

I don't know too much about the shemale either but from what I've gathered 'they' may have been
born relatively normal but for whatever reason consciously {or subconsciously] sought to accentuate
the two sexes which are, to some extent present in all biological life.

The few that I've seen on porn sites seem to have made themselves into pleasure creatures for all types
of sexuality - I imagine the're in the prostitution game.

But the media here in the US mentions transgender rights {who can use what public restroom, etc.}
often - So apparently many people have gender identification problems.

But what I was trying to get to in the original post was - What is really going on?

- deviance, anomaly, or hybrid? - Is Evolution producing something new ?

When you think about it - some of these shemales seem to be quite verile
- Theoretically a shemale could mate with a fertile female and breed!

Now the question is what would you call the shemale who fathered the kid?

And the thing men might worry about is if that continued the male of the species might become
extinct - We might end up with a world of females and shemales with no men left :wtf:
 

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Now the question is what would you call the shemale who fathered the kid?
A father, a person, a human being.

All the relevant words have a wide range of meaning, from their "technically correct" definitions through to the way they are used colloquially, and sometimes mistakenly. The ideas behind the words are important, but so is the emotion carried by the choice of word.

Hermaphrodite: An organism having the reproductive organs of moth male and female. In many species, hermaphrodites are the norm. They may either self-fertilise, or mate, resulting in one or both partners producing offspring. In many species (particularly fish) an individual may change sex one or more times during its lifetime. It's generally considered offensive to refer to a person as a "hermaphrodite" rather than "intersex".

Intersex: The preferred (non-pejorative) term for a person born with the sex organs of both male and female. It is surprisingly common, but was not openly spoken about until recently. Much of the distress that intersex people have suffered throughout history has been because of other people's attitudes to them. The physical condition, alone, does not necessarily cause health problems, although in some cases it may.

Shemale: Only ever used as an insulting or mocking term for a person with a mixture of sexual characteristics. Often "shemale" is used to describe a person involved in sex work who appears to be a conventionally beautiful and sexually attractive female in every respect except that they have a penis. Such people may choose to enhance their female appearance with surgery or hormones.

Transgender: A person born with one set of physical characteristics but who feels that they identify as a person of the opposite sex. It is a real thing, although those of us who do not experience it may never be able to understand it at an intuitive level.

Sex: A physical distinction based solely on which set of reproductive organs a person has.

Gender: A more wide ranging term than "sex" because it takes into account a number of social factors and expectations. In our society, dresses, skirts and delicate jewellery are worn almost exclusively by females, and are described as "feminine". In various historical societies, males have worn dresses, skirts, or tunics, had elaborate hairstyles or wigs, and worn fine jewellery. Those things would then have been deemed "masculine".

A man cannot give birth due to his sex, but a woman often earns less than a man because her gender.

Intersex and transgender people are people. Some of them are good, some, bad; some happy, some sad. They have a minority condition, as do autistic people, people with angina, people with asthma or diabetes, and so on. The difference is that our society attaches an exaggerated importance to do with sex or sexuality.

The problems with both conditions (intersex and transgender) arise mainly from other people's attitudes and expectations. If an intersex person is able to father a child, or to conceive one or even both, any judgement about them should be based solely on how they raise their child. It is rare enough that no one need worry that the species is changing or that men are becoming redundant.

That said, we vaguely assume that it is a good thing that early man evolved into Homo Sapiens. Why then would it be a bad thing if Homo Sapiens evolved into something else? We are not the pinnacle of evolution, and anyone who believes that we are is welcome to come on a Saturday night out in Nottingham and I will show them evidence to the contrary.

Far better to worry about the many thousands of "ordinary' men and women who neglect and abuse their kids than the tiny number of intersex or trans people who may or may not have the opportunity to raise kids at all.
 

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A father, a person, a human being.

All the relevant words have a wide range of meaning, from their "technically correct" definitions through to the way they are used colloquially, and sometimes mistakenly. The ideas behind the words are important, but so is the emotion carried by the choice of word.

Hermaphrodite: An organism having the reproductive organs of moth male and female. In many species, hermaphrodites are the norm. They may either self-fertilise, or mate, resulting in one or both partners producing offspring. In many species (particularly fish) an individual may change sex one or more times during its lifetime. It's generally considered offensive to refer to a person as a "hermaphrodite" rather than "intersex".

Intersex: The preferred (non-pejorative) term for a person born with the sex organs of both male and female. It is surprisingly common, but was not openly spoken about until recently. Much of the distress that intersex people have suffered throughout history has been because of other people's attitudes to them. The physical condition, alone, does not necessarily cause health problems, although in some cases it may.

Shemale: Only ever used as an insulting or mocking term for a person with a mixture of sexual characteristics. Often "shemale" is used to describe a person involved in sex work who appears to be a conventionally beautiful and sexually attractive female in every respect except that they have a penis. Such people may choose to enhance their female appearance with surgery or hormones.

Transgender: A person born with one set of physical characteristics but who feels that they identify as a person of the opposite sex. It is a real thing, although those of us who do not experience it may never be able to understand it at an intuitive level.

Sex: A physical distinction based solely on which set of reproductive organs a person has.

Gender: A more wide ranging term than "sex" because it takes into account a number of social factors and expectations. In our society, dresses, skirts and delicate jewellery are worn almost exclusively by females, and are described as "feminine". In various historical societies, males have worn dresses, skirts, or tunics, had elaborate hairstyles or wigs, and worn fine jewellery. Those things would then have been deemed "masculine".

A man cannot give birth due to his sex, but a woman often earns less than a man because her gender.

Intersex and transgender people are people. Some of them are good, some, bad; some happy, some sad. They have a minority condition, as do autistic people, people with angina, people with asthma or diabetes, and so on. The difference is that our society attaches an exaggerated importance to do with sex or sexuality.

The problems with both conditions (intersex and transgender) arise mainly from other people's attitudes and expectations. If an intersex person is able to father a child, or to conceive one or even both, any judgement about them should be based solely on how they raise their child. It is rare enough that no one need worry that the species is changing or that men are becoming redundant.

That said, we vaguely assume that it is a good thing that early man evolved into Homo Sapiens. Why then would it be a bad thing if Homo Sapiens evolved into something else? We are not the pinnacle of evolution, and anyone who believes that we are is welcome to come on a Saturday night out in Nottingham and I will show them evidence to the contrary.

Far better to worry about the many thousands of "ordinary' men and women who neglect and abuse their kids than the tiny number of intersex or trans people who may or may not have the opportunity to raise kids at all.
For further confusion, there's also 'androgen insensitivity', caused by a genetic male not being exposed to androgen hormones during development, those affected look, externally, like women.

And the 'reverse' Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia (CAH), when a genetic female is exposed to excessive androgen hormones during development and physiologically resemble men.
 

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Most of the 'shemales' who are appearing in porn videos are actually transsexual. They're doing it to make a living and raise money for operations. Eventually, they give up the porn and prostitution and retire. Then they have the final op and blend in among the female population.
A few don't have the op and carry on being 'shemales'.
 

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I remember reading an interview with Barry White years ago where he claimed that even his kids had sex to his music .. I couldn't imagine anything more off putting than listening to your Dad singing during 'sexy time' .. this possibly also belongs in FT's mythconceptions, urban legends or rock and roll myths. Does anyone else here remember hearing about this outrageous claim?.
 

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.. a woman often earns less than a man because her gender.
Nope. Sorry Mikefule but that's simply not true anymore, it's illegal to pay people of different genders different amounts in the UK .. and the whole 'glass ceiling' argument is bollocks as well in 2019 but this conversation's a contentious one and best left for another thread or even better, a different website altogether.
 

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The less politically correct term used to be 'chicks with dicks' .. but that was back in '94 and probably even earlier. I've never personally met a beautiful woman who's then gone on to whip her cock out in front of me but I'm sure it could happen one day, my mate Craig keeps sending me facebook vids of them for some reason .. the old film The Crying Game deals with hermaphrodites in a sensitive manner. I'd expect the trailer is on youtube.

edit: lesson to learn .. always listen to your barman

Daft true story, guy I knew from school who was a right macho asshole, got chucked out of the army for fighting (seriously), ended up going down for manslaughter, didn't like him but he was friends with one of my best mates so I put up with him.

One night I'm around at my friends house when this guy shows up looking really traumatised, turns out he'd just watched The Crying Game. :actw:

He didn't actually say but reading between the lines, I think he'd been whacking off to Jaye Davidson's character and probably had a very similar reaction to her onscreen partner at the 'reveal' :freak:
 

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Daft true story, guy I knew from school who was a right macho asshole, got chucked out of the army for fighting (seriously), ended up going down for manslaughter, didn't like him but he was friends with one of my best mates so I put up with him.

One night I'm around at my friends house when this guy shows up looking really traumatised, turns out he'd just watched The Crying Game. :actw:

He didn't actually say but reading between the lines, I think he'd been whacking off to Jaye Davidson's character and probably had a very similar reaction to her onscreen partner at the 'reveal' :freak:
Hopefully he's decided who he wants physical relationships with and he's in a supportive group of friends now. It must be hard to decide not to be 'vanilla' (as they used to call it in the 80's). His body's his own business and nothing to do with anyone else.
 

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I remember my Auntie Joan (there's always one), introducing me to a strikingly beautiful woman friend - six foot tall etc. whose name was Wayne...

Wayne had the strongest Kiwi accent and the deepest voice I've ever heard - I was 12 at the time and my brain kept shunting between the masculinity of the voice (and name), and the so very feminine appearance of ...Wayne.

After a period of percieved unreality, I decided to fall in love with Wayne instead.
 

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I remember my Auntie Joan (there's always one), introducing me to a strikingly beautiful woman friend - six foot tall etc. whose name was Wayne...

Wayne had the strongest Kiwi accent and the deepest voice I've ever heard - I was 12 at the time and my brain kept shunting between the masculinity of the voice (and name), and the so very feminine appearance of ...Wayne.

After a period of percieved unreality, I decided to fall in love with Wayne instead.
Why would parents name their daughter after John Wayne?
 

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I remember reading an interview with Barry White years ago where he claimed that even his kids had sex to his music .. I couldn't imagine anything more off putting than listening to your Dad singing during 'sexy time' .. this possibly also belongs in FT's mythconceptions, urban legends or rock and roll myths. Does anyone else here remember hearing about this outrageous claim?.
That's really funny if true! Reminds me of a Spanish film called Sex and Lucia where Paz Vega plays a woman who often masturbates while watching her mum's porn stash. To be clear: that's porn videos her mum starred in (!). Don't think it's based on a true story, but after this thread, frankly who knows?
 

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Wasn't John Wayne's true name Marion?..

And the wrestler Big Daddy was called Shirley Crabtree Jnr.

INT21.
 

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You learn something new every day - and today, I learned about the fetish of "Sploshing" or "Cake Squishing":

Sploshing: The Sexual Fetish Where People Sit On Cakes To Get Off

While Sploshers use a whole range of different foods, cakes have become quite the trend. Cake-sitting is huge within this frisky community and the desserts are just as pretty as the butts sitting on them.
Dominatrix Mistress Shae Flanigan explained Sploshing in a little more detail: "When a freshly chilled cake first touches your behind, you can't help but let off a range of squeamish noises. Also, the surprisingly satisfying sound of a bum squashing a meringue is one sound I never thought I would come across, nor will I ever forget."
https://www.yourtango.com/2017300503/sploshing-sexual-fetish-involves-sitting-on-cakes

I need to get out less...
 
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I found this charming and entertaining piece on YouTube. It's captivating. I reccomend it to the forum.


My comment reads

You can even extend that to looking at porn images from the 1960's, the 1970's, the 1980's. Looking at the woman in the photo - and as often as not it just seems quaint, otherworldly, a historical fossil - and reflecting that if she's still alive now, she'd be in her seventies. Would there be kids looking at Granny now, in a family setting somewhere, who of course would be ignorant of what she once did when she was twenty-five... (and would it matter a damn?) The first thought might be, looking at the photo - "Good God, did anyone ever find that sort of underwear on a woman to be in any way stylish or attractive?" closely followed by "And what will people in forty or fifty years' time think of us?". and... "those clothes. Those hairstyles. That way of doing makeup. And the settings. They say 1970's interior decoration was hideous. They're right." And even when a woman (and to a lesser extent a man) is completely naked - you can still confidently say "That picture was taken around 1976. That one is from 1985" because of the cues you get from the hairstyles or the makeup... this is fascinating. Porn as social history.
 

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At least it's a fairly harmless activity, unless one is in too much of a rush to enjoy oneself and hasn't let the cake cool down enough from the oven. I wonder what the good folk from the Great British Bake Off would think of this?
As per the quote above, it's got to be a "freshly chilled cake". Apparently the cold makes it more satisfying.
 

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