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Encounters with monsters in the Vietnam War.
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More strange stories from Vietnam
Junopsis
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Because I've gotten salty about Bedtime Stories paraphrasing all the cool stories but not crediting authors in multiple cases:
For the first video:
The Da Nang flying humanoid story may hail from any of these mentioned: https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/10/the-glowing-winged-woman-of-vietnam/
or something in the source section of the flying humanoids article in Mysterious Creatures: A Guide to Cryptozoology, by George M. Eberhart (p.177)
The Ahool is a giant Javanese cryptid bat that is soley described as a bat, attested by European researcher Ernest Bartels and only by he (can't find a source though). Name onomatopoeic. Can't say it has much to do with the flying humanoids in Mexican videos and is not siren-like.
The giant gold fish should probably be credited to Very Crazy, G.I.: Strange But True Stories of the Vietnam War (2001) by Kregg P. Jorgenson.
The Vietnam giant snake /only/ turns up results of the photo that this video attributes to Remy Van Lierde. Not many, too.
The only sourced instance of the lizardmen story i can find points back to https://web.archive.org/web/2017071...nam-recent-wartime-reptilian-cave-encounters/
from 2017, with some more recent hits for the images that it comes with on a Bulgarian media site. The Mysterious Earth author's articles include Annunaki material and content about the presence of aliens at Jesus' crucifixion. The story is attributed to an anonymous submission, so this might be its first place online. The "newer" sighting with photo may similarly be from here, since I'm not finding older examples.
(I like treasure hunts, so if anyone has sources/old instances of anything I'd love those. ....I don't actually care whether I find an intentionally fictional story, an account purporting by all context to be real, or something that I can't actually source at all. I just like the hunt. this has been fun. Also people should credit their sources.)
For the first video:
The Da Nang flying humanoid story may hail from any of these mentioned: https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/10/the-glowing-winged-woman-of-vietnam/
or something in the source section of the flying humanoids article in Mysterious Creatures: A Guide to Cryptozoology, by George M. Eberhart (p.177)
The Ahool is a giant Javanese cryptid bat that is soley described as a bat, attested by European researcher Ernest Bartels and only by he (can't find a source though). Name onomatopoeic. Can't say it has much to do with the flying humanoids in Mexican videos and is not siren-like.
The giant gold fish should probably be credited to Very Crazy, G.I.: Strange But True Stories of the Vietnam War (2001) by Kregg P. Jorgenson.
The Vietnam giant snake /only/ turns up results of the photo that this video attributes to Remy Van Lierde. Not many, too.
The only sourced instance of the lizardmen story i can find points back to https://web.archive.org/web/2017071...nam-recent-wartime-reptilian-cave-encounters/
from 2017, with some more recent hits for the images that it comes with on a Bulgarian media site. The Mysterious Earth author's articles include Annunaki material and content about the presence of aliens at Jesus' crucifixion. The story is attributed to an anonymous submission, so this might be its first place online. The "newer" sighting with photo may similarly be from here, since I'm not finding older examples.
(I like treasure hunts, so if anyone has sources/old instances of anything I'd love those. ....I don't actually care whether I find an intentionally fictional story, an account purporting by all context to be real, or something that I can't actually source at all. I just like the hunt. this has been fun. Also people should credit their sources.)
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Junopsis
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For the second video:
Maddox/Turner Joy encounter: More well-known. For instance here https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2008/february/truth-about-tonkin
or here (p.22) https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/docu...kin/articles/release-1/rel1_skunks_bogies.pdf
The initial contact is noted to have been perceived as having different headings by each boat. Sounds a bit like those suggestions of fake radar/sonar for combat purposes. Some of the sonar returns are mentioned here to be the results of their own high-speed maneuvering.
I did get a result on who tells the weird-sonar-contact story: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/07/giant-pyrosomes-vietnam-war/532893/ a Dr. Todd Newberry who says it was told to him. No comment on the suggestion of pyrosomes...
Robert Pollock's mist story is his own:
https://web.archive.org/web/2016030...s/paranormal/supernatural-event-over-vietnam/
The 'rock ape' moniker is per one Sgt. Thomas Jenkins https://visitcryptoville.com/2012/09/06/vietnam-bigfoot-forest-manbatutut-is-it-real/
but the Steve Williams story may come from this (a mailing list story?): http://www.bigfootencounters.com/creatures/vietnam.htm and is not from a sgt. Steve Williams, but told to a Steve Williams by the soldier.
Mysterious Universe mentions the mid-attack encounter and quotes a witness, whose letter was sent to stancourtney.com: http://stancourtney.com/nguoi-rung-a-letter-from-viet-nam/
Hill 868 story by author Vic Socotra and probably should be credited: http://vicsocotra.com/stories/Monkey_Business.htm
Maddox/Turner Joy encounter: More well-known. For instance here https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2008/february/truth-about-tonkin
or here (p.22) https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/docu...kin/articles/release-1/rel1_skunks_bogies.pdf
The initial contact is noted to have been perceived as having different headings by each boat. Sounds a bit like those suggestions of fake radar/sonar for combat purposes. Some of the sonar returns are mentioned here to be the results of their own high-speed maneuvering.
I did get a result on who tells the weird-sonar-contact story: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/07/giant-pyrosomes-vietnam-war/532893/ a Dr. Todd Newberry who says it was told to him. No comment on the suggestion of pyrosomes...
Robert Pollock's mist story is his own:
https://web.archive.org/web/2016030...s/paranormal/supernatural-event-over-vietnam/
The 'rock ape' moniker is per one Sgt. Thomas Jenkins https://visitcryptoville.com/2012/09/06/vietnam-bigfoot-forest-manbatutut-is-it-real/
but the Steve Williams story may come from this (a mailing list story?): http://www.bigfootencounters.com/creatures/vietnam.htm and is not from a sgt. Steve Williams, but told to a Steve Williams by the soldier.
Mysterious Universe mentions the mid-attack encounter and quotes a witness, whose letter was sent to stancourtney.com: http://stancourtney.com/nguoi-rung-a-letter-from-viet-nam/
Hill 868 story by author Vic Socotra and probably should be credited: http://vicsocotra.com/stories/Monkey_Business.htm
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More on the USS Maddox.
https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2021...mL7wpbWq82ryda6n0_ZN1VgM820k_f-JvrsHMvqe5rq70
https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2021...mL7wpbWq82ryda6n0_ZN1VgM820k_f-JvrsHMvqe5rq70
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Here are a few weird tales from WW2
Circus elephants Kiri and Many clear a wrecked car from a street in Hamburg. Both elephants were used by the civil authorities to clear wreckage during and after the war.
These overshoes were made for Britain’s Special Operations Executive (SOE) agents operating in Asia and the Pacific. When the agent landed on a beach from the sea, the “footprints” were intended to fool the Japanese into thinking that he was a barefoot native.
A farmer paints stripes on her cow to increase its visibility at night and prevent car accidents should it wander onto the road during blackout conditions.
More weird tales at link
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/strange-world-two-photos/
Circus elephants Kiri and Many clear a wrecked car from a street in Hamburg. Both elephants were used by the civil authorities to clear wreckage during and after the war.
These overshoes were made for Britain’s Special Operations Executive (SOE) agents operating in Asia and the Pacific. When the agent landed on a beach from the sea, the “footprints” were intended to fool the Japanese into thinking that he was a barefoot native.
A farmer paints stripes on her cow to increase its visibility at night and prevent car accidents should it wander onto the road during blackout conditions.
More weird tales at link
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/strange-world-two-photos/