Weird Weather

[Mungoman]

I had heard, in relation to this weather event, that regular amount of precipitation is usually just evaporated with the heat. In this case, though, evaporation wouldn't work due to the amount. I don't know if this is true since I don't remember who I was talking to. It was not an article, it was just a conversation.

Where I live we have an annual transpiration/evaporation rate of 1600mm. That's 1.6 metres, which is 400mm less than Abu Dhabi.

That means that when I wash on a Mondays (Laundry) in summer, The first load being denims, towels etc. - by the time another load has been washed and hung, that first load is dry.

So I can understand the paucity of their stormwater system and lack of drainage in this instance when you have an annual rainfall of 200mm

 

[kesavaross]

In terms of drying washing, the humidity in the air plays a big part. 60 or 70%, or below, is a good drying day. As is the temperature. Above about 15C with those conditions with a slight breeze is ideal. Over about 20C and in the sunshine, it makes no difference. The clothes will dry easily enough. For washing on a washing line, the heat wins every time.

The dew point plays a big part. The dew point is the temperature at which the moisture in the air condenses out onto solid objects, like grass, trees, windscreens etc. The higher the dew point is to the actual air temperature matters. Frosts are caused by the dew point being above the air temperature when the air temperature is near or just above or below zero and the humidity level is high.

 

[Sharon Hill]

I did mention I used the word allegedly. That means it may not be factual per say. I explained where I got the information from and no it's not rude to ask for some form of justification to what you see as an extraordinary claim. I can't give that. I went part way to explain why.

You found that paper in a three minute search on Google. Firstly, Google is highly censored and the search results will be highly limited. Secondly, classified and or declassified information is not so easy to find. Thirdly, quite often I find information from one source is confirmed by other sources that may not be entirely internet based but have some aspects may be internet based. Fourthly, along with many researchers, investigative journalist, university students, etc, I use the dark web simply because it's not indexed. I am definitely not going to post any link to that and fifth, some of what I read or watch, etc, is in with political content so I'm not going to post a link to that either as per forum rules.

Anyone can do their own research.

So it's all bogus and nonsense. How exactly do you know for certain that is so without seriously looking into it? Also, define a credible source? I'm not intending to be rude by asking that. Frequently, many say ta view point is rubbish having done no proper research but simply go by what Google gives them as a search result, what the MSM tells them and by what they think is so. Very few can simple say I don't know if that is true or not.

With all things Fortean and paranormal, there is no proof. There is discussion, research, enquiry, view points, consensus or not, and so on. For instance amongst other subject matters, I really enjoy all things time slip. Again there is no proof. No link can give a definitive answer and we all accept that. Yet with some other subjects, that principle goes out the window and it becomes, to quote your words, bogus and nonsense. Again I have no desire to sound rude. Far from it. I just can't find better words to be more diplomatic and that is my failing. My point is that maybe we need to apply the same rules to other subject matters that are not Fortean or paranormal and look into them in a similar manner.

We were talking about sourcing your comments, not a postmodern view on everything here.
If you found it on a dark web source, then that's your answer (and we could evaluate the comment accordingly...).
Back to the subject, I had also heard similar claims but was easily able to find a link that was not related to [assertions of] classified material. So, I'm not swayed by your points here. It's discussion, which includes disagreement, not meant to be aggressive. Now if it's truly aggressive (which does sometimes happen here), the mods are fair.

Anyway...

 

[Stormkhan]

Regardless of the assertion, look hard enough online and you'll find 'evidence' both in support or dismissal of it. This is why a certain amount of judgement should be used on every source.
Just because one confirms your world-view doesn't validate it.
Finding this confirmation on the Dark Web because you trust it more than the rest of the internet doesn't give it any more veracity.

 

[Sid]

When we experienced a lightning & a rain dump Storm two nights ago, I happened to be looking out and saw a bolt of lightning hit the ground several miles away, which had red-tinged edges which I had never seen before.
Then I realised that I'd seen this recorded on this platform before, so I did hit the 'search' Forum facility and it turned up this article from;
'A MYSTERIOUS CLOUD MOVED OVER NORTH TEXAS,' WAS IT WEATHER OR THE MILITARY? #1,640.
I also noted that the same type of 'Roll,' or 'Shelf-Cloud,' was impressively formed pretty quickly and very evident at the time this bolt of lightning struck, and much wider than what would normally be seen.
*Here is a quick sketch from what I recall it looking like ~ (normal white lightning, but with bright red edges)

 

[ramonmercado]

Now that's hot.

t is so hot in Mexico that howler monkeys are falling dead from the trees.

At least 83 of the midsize primates, who are known for their roaring vocal calls, were found dead in the Gulf coast state of Tabasco. Others were rescued by residents, including five that were rushed to a local veterinarian who battled to save them.

“They arrived in critical condition, with dehydration and fever,” said Dr Sergio Valenzuela. “They were as limp as rags. It was heatstroke.”

While Mexico’s brutal heatwave has been linked to the deaths of at least 26 people since March, veterinarians and rescuers say it has killed dozens and perhaps hundreds of howler monkeys.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/h...like-apples-in-sweltering-mexico-1628453.html

 

[Mungoman]

Now that's hot.

t is so hot in Mexico that howler monkeys are falling dead from the trees.

At least 83 of the midsize primates, who are known for their roaring vocal calls, were found dead in the Gulf coast state of Tabasco. Others were rescued by residents, including five that were rushed to a local veterinarian who battled to save them.

“They arrived in critical condition, with dehydration and fever,” said Dr Sergio Valenzuela. “They were as limp as rags. It was heatstroke.”

While Mexico’s brutal heatwave has been linked to the deaths of at least 26 people since March, veterinarians and rescuers say it has killed dozens and perhaps hundreds of howler monkeys.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/h...like-apples-in-sweltering-mexico-1628453.html

47C is a bit warm...we might get a day or so of this every couple of years which usually heralds a stormfront coming...we get up early and prepare for it with lots of water and little activity - but these fella's are in drought - and there's all that fur!

Poor little buggers...

 

[Floyd]

47C is a bit warm...we might get a day or so of this every couple of years which usually heralds a stormfront coming...we get up early and prepare for it with lots of water and little activity - but these fella's are in drought - and there's all that fur!

Poor little buggers...

Egypt/southern Israel often get up to 45-50c, but with very low humidity, so it's much more bearable.

 

[Floyd]

Now that's hot.

t is so hot in Mexico that howler monkeys are falling dead from the trees.

At least 83 of the midsize primates, who are known for their roaring vocal calls, were found dead in the Gulf coast state of Tabasco. Others were rescued by residents, including five that were rushed to a local veterinarian who battled to save them.

“They arrived in critical condition, with dehydration and fever,” said Dr Sergio Valenzuela. “They were as limp as rags. It was heatstroke.”

While Mexico’s brutal heatwave has been linked to the deaths of at least 26 people since March, veterinarians and rescuers say it has killed dozens and perhaps hundreds of howler monkeys.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/h...like-apples-in-sweltering-mexico-1628453.html

Well, it is in Tabasco.

 

[Sid]

Well, it is in Tabasco.

Well. . . it does sit on the Equator.

 

[flannel]

I presume this is real:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815524897235390581

 

[Sharon Hill]

I presume this is real:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815524897235390581

Yes real, but that photo might be a bit enhanced, maybe even by the cell phone light sensors.

https://orbitaltoday.com/2024/07/23...ivided-into-two-parts-split-sunset-explained/

 

[Mythopoeika]

I presume this is real:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815524897235390581

Graphics drivers for the Matrix need updating.

 

[Ronnie Jersey]

In 2023 July and August were brutally hot and very humid, but this year JUNE was horribly hot and humid, July just as bad, and now August looks worse. It's changing!

 

[charliebrown]

RJ,

I am happy to see you posting.

I asked this question before where on planet earth is there a cool place.

Phoenix, Arizona population around 2 million claims that it looses 2 people a day from heat.

Most of the U.S. have been under heat advisories most of the summer.

Planet earth might become too hot for life to exist.

 

[Floyd]

RJ,

I am happy to see you posting.

I asked this question before where on planet earth is there a cool place.

Phoenix, Arizona population around 2 million claims that it looses 2 people a day from heat.

Most of the U.S. have been under heat advisories most of the summer.

Planet earth might become too hot for life to exist.

Hasn't Arizona always been hot though?
It holds the record for the highest nighttime temperature AFAIR at 36c/97f.

Too much concrete and asphalt and not enough trees!

 

[Sid]

Hasn't Arizona always been hot though?
It holds the record for the highest nighttime temperature AFAIR at 36c/97f.

Too much concrete and asphalt and not enough trees!

*Extract: Sonoran Desert
The hottest desert in Arizona is the Sonoran Desert, which also extends into parts of Mexico. Summer air temperatures routinely exceed 40°C (104°F) and can reach up to 48°C (118°F)12. The hottest and driest part of the desert is near the lower Colorado River, where summer temperatures can reach more than 120°F (49°C)3.
*By clicking on 12. or 3. (in above text), it will lead you to getting a better Idea of what Arizona does have going for it.

 

[Sharon Hill]

Hasn't Arizona always been hot though?
It holds the record for the highest nighttime temperature AFAIR at 36c/97f.

Too much concrete and asphalt and not enough trees!

Hard to grow trees or even ground cover in the desert where there is no rain.

 

[Mungoman]

Hard to grow trees or even ground cover in the desert where there is no rain.

Mulch...bring in mulch from surrounding districts/states. Pile it six inches deep.

Just the act of mulching will change a lot.

 

[Floyd]

Hard to grow trees or even ground cover in the desert where there is no rain.

True.

The Israelis managed it though and some areas get about only a centimetre of rain a year.
Everywhere you go there, you'll see hose-pipes with holes in that snake around trees/shrubs/public parks etc that drip very small amounts of water at the base.

Of course, they are closer to the ocean and de-salination plants than Arizona is, but I believe that Arizona has access to rivers, reservoirs and has groundwater. ?

 

[Cochise]

RJ,

I am happy to see you posting.

I asked this question before where on planet earth is there a cool place.

Phoenix, Arizona population around 2 million claims that it looses 2 people a day from heat.

Most of the U.S. have been under heat advisories most of the summer.

Planet earth might become too hot for life to exist.

I can recommend North Wales. Only this last week has it got above 20C for the first time this year - and today and for the foreseeable it's back in the mid teens.

 

[Floyd]

I can recommend North Wales. Only this last week has it got above 20C for the first time this year - and today and for the foreseeable it's back in the mid teens.

Really?
You're only up the road and we had 26 ish last week.

We got up to 25c on May 12th.

 

[Cochise]

Really?
You're only up the road and we had 26 ish last week.

Yes, last week was hot, as I said it got above 20C, I think 24C was the highest I saw (my car has a display of the external temperature). It was
still cool at night, though, cool enough that the heating was clicking on. .

And it's cooled again now. Currently 16C @ 9:50 am. .

 

[Floyd]

Yes, last week was hot, as I said it got above 20C, I think 24C was the highest I saw (my car has a display of the external temperature). It was
still cool at night, though, cool enough that the heating was clicking on. .

And it's cooled again now. Currently 16C @ 9:50 am. .

I'm suprised it didn't go above that in that hot spell we had back in May.
Being near the coast probably keeps things a bit cooler up there in summer.

You perhaps get the benefit of milder winters though. ?

 

[Sharon Hill]

True.

The Israelis managed it though and some areas get about only a centimetre of rain a year.
Everywhere you go there, you'll see hose-pipes with holes in that snake around trees/shrubs/public parks etc that drip very small amounts of water at the base.

Of course, they are closer to the ocean and de-salination plants than Arizona is, but I believe that Arizona has access to rivers, reservoirs and has groundwater. ?

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They seem too busy using the sparse water resources for lawns and golf course greens.

 

[Cochise]

I'm suprised it didn't go above that in that hot spell we had back in May.
Being near the coast probably keeps things a bit cooler up there in summer.

You perhaps get the benefit of milder winters though. ?

Yes, both true. We often get cloud cover here when its sunnier further east, and winter is much colder 15 miles or so further inland.

 

[Floyd]

Yes, both true. We often get cloud cover here when its sunnier further east, and winter is much colder 15 miles or so further inland.

It's funny you said about your heating- ours didn't come on, but although yesterday (and Friday) were much cooler outside than it has been, inside it was only saying a degree less than it has been (the humidity was a little bit lower as well).

For some reason though, yesterday evening I said to MrsF that I was considering putting a jumper on.
She said that she was cold too.

 

[brownmane]

Today, it's 29C and 33C humidex, so not as bad as yesterday because the humidex rating is down.

Not like the prediction for this coming Monday of 23C by 0900 with humidex of 30C. THAT will feel warm. I hope the prediction is way off, but it is August. At least, so far we have avoided humidex ratings of 40C.

 

[kesavaross]

I can recommend North Wales. Only this last week has it got above 20C for the first time this year - and today and for the foreseeable it's back in the mid teens.

I had an uncle who lived in Wales about 30 miles south of Aberystwyth in an area that was stunningly beautiful and scenic. He had a sheep and alpaca farm. I don't ever recall not wearing jumpers and warm clothing even in summer time. The farm was so remote that in the evening I often heard a dog barking at a neighbouring farm which was nearly mile away across the valley.

When it rained, which it did frequently, it wasn't just heavy rain, it was usually a deluge.

One winter when I was there with my then partner, there was some serious snow and the place was cut off for a week or two as it's all hills and no gritting lorries. One evening the temperature went down to minus 19C. The next morning the air was so frigid and still we saw a display, if thats the right word, of diamond dust in the air. It's like seeing thousands upon thousands of tiny fleeting points of light all around. It doesn't come out well on video unfortunately. It rarely occurs in the UK because atmospheric conditions have to be exact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_dust

My other half (at the time) she took a short video of it. I don't know where I was. Probably in bed keeping warm. She called the effect Angel Crystals.

 

[Sid]

I had an uncle who lived in Wales about 30 miles south of Aberystwyth in an area that was stunningly beautiful and scenic. He had a sheep and alpaca farm. I don't ever recall not wearing jumpers and warm clothing even in summer time. The farm was so remote that in the evening I often heard a dog barking at a neighbouring farm which was nearly mile away across the valley.

When it rained, which it did frequently, it wasn't just heavy rain, it was usually a deluge.

One winter when I was there with my then partner, there was some serious snow and the place was cut off for a week or two as it's all hills and no gritting lorries. One evening the temperature went down to minus 19C. The next morning the air was so frigid and still we saw a display, if thats the right word, of diamond dust in the air. It's like seeing thousands upon thousands of tiny fleeting points of light all around. It doesn't come out well on video unfortunately. It rarely occurs in the UK because atmospheric conditions have to be exact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_dust

My other half (at the time) she took a short video of it. I don't know where I was. Probably in bed keeping warm. She called the effect Angel Crystals.

The last times that I've come across fine wind-born ice crystals (Diamond Dust), was when I was working in a forest in Scotland during the winter months, and it was flurrying through with the wind, laterally, between the trees building up a layer of ice on one side of the trees.
On another occasion, it was on the coldest day of January, back in 1982, when the snow was blowing back onto the road surface from off the top of tall snow drifts, which had built up 16 feet above each side of the thickly covered icy road surface, with red deer looking down upon us - waiting for to be fed..
I was driving along behind a snow plough on the road up to Braemar, where the temperature had plummeted to an officially recorded temperature of minus 27 something degrees below.
Even the door locks froze solid in seconds after we got out to stretch our legs ~ get a bit of air, and have a hot drink from our flasks, and panicked a bit when we found that we had a job gaining entry back inside the car to get out of the cutting air temperature of the swirling wind and ice crystals hitting us in the face, and protection from it by getting inside the car.
Solution was to warm-up the key with my cigarette lighter to warm the lock enough for it to eventually unlock!
The stone cottages were completely covered in really thick sheets of ice that you could see through ~ like peering through a glass wall that covered the cottage completely from roof eve edges right down to the ground, just like a scene from a Walt Disney Cartoon Movie!