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The Welsh Triangle and other sightings to be re-examined.
The Welsh Triangle and other sightings to be re-examined.
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RAE Aberporth (near Cardigan) has/had a lot to answer for re: firing missiles into the sea. From speaking to people who worked there in the 70s/80s, however, I got the impression that even the MOD bods at the base were foxed by some of the UFO sightings in the area.
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I don't think this has been posted yet, although we do have other references to the Welsh Triangle:
12 July 2012 Last updated at 08:32
UFO Wales: New X-files shed light on 'alien' sightings
By George Herd, BBC Wales news
A spectral Luftwaffe World War II jet over Gower, questions about Anglesey's nuclear plant, and terrified Flintshire motorists.
These are just three of the cases uncovered in files released by the National Archives examining UFO sightings across Wales.
The papers span four decades, and include nearly 7,000 documents.
But one of the biggest Welsh UFO mysteries, the 'Dyfed Triangle', may have been an elaborate practical joke.
It is the latest in a growing number of documents released detailing the UK's obsession with claims of extra-terrestrial sightings that began to surge in post-war Britain.
The papers reveal that between 1996 and 2008, more than 20 detailed sightings were reported to the police and Ministry of Defence in Wales.
They include the case of a sighting near Rhossili Bay on the Gower peninsula in September, 2005, describing the UFO as appearing like a WWII Luftwaffe prototype jet.
"Suddenly we became aware of a bright object, travelling at very high speed, moving horizontally from west to east almost directly above our heads," recorded the un-named observer, in an explanation to the Ministry of Defence.
"The object was shaped like a pair of stubby swept-back wings, meeting at around 90 degrees. The wingtips were round, as was the forward joint of port and starboard wings.
"My cousin turned to me in surprise, and I exclaimed: 'What on earth was that thing we just saw?'.
In response, the MoD said it only investigated threats to UK airspace, and had no remit to examine 'aerial phenomena'.
Some nine years earlier, the files recount a sighting by a driver in Flintshire, in August, 1996.
A police record passed to defence officials stated: "The object was very large and bright. It had flames coming out of the rear and there was no noise coming from it at all. It was 20ft from the ground and moving very fast."
The report said the sighting was made towards Mold, and the records notes that the driver was "extremely shaken-up by the incident".
Significantly, two other sightings were made on the same day - one on Anglesey, and another not far ways from the first at Chirk.
"I've always been sceptical about these things, until tonight. I've never seen anything anything like it in my life before," said one witness.
Another incident found its way to the the House of Commons, after concerned residents near Wylfa nuclear power station on Anglesey contacted the then MP, now assembly member, Ieuan Wyn Jones.
He wrote to ministers about the alleged sightings, seeking reassurance.
However, officials were unable to address the mystery or confirm whether the so-called UFO was in fact a search-and-rescue operation from RAF Valley.
"It would have been highly unlikely that any of their helicopters would have been airborne," said officials.
Finally, the full records regarding the so-called 'Dyfed Triangle' have been released, after some of the papers were made public in 2010.
It has widely been viewed as Wales' own 'Roswell incident' - sightings of both UFOs and aliens in an area stretching across parts of Pembrokeshire and Ceredigion in the 1970s.
One incident recalls a sighting by Rosa Granville who ran a hotel in Little Haven. She was woken late at night and saw what she described as a flying saucer ship, and then a silver alien shape.
Similar stories were told by schoolchildren at Broadhaven.
The MP at the time, Nicholas Edwards wrote: "I am being inundated at the present time with representations about UFOs said to have been seen in Pembrokeshire."
But the files reveal that officials who investigated the incident suspected pranksters.
"The Community Relations Officer added that there is general speculation in the neighbourhood that a practical joker may be at work," wrote staff at S4 - the government department that investigated sightings at the time.
"RAF Brawdy have had other enquiries about men in silver suits and it is perhaps not irrelevant that a local factory manufactures clothing of this type for the oil installation at Milford Haven."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-18798862
12 July 2012 Last updated at 08:32
UFO Wales: New X-files shed light on 'alien' sightings
By George Herd, BBC Wales news
A spectral Luftwaffe World War II jet over Gower, questions about Anglesey's nuclear plant, and terrified Flintshire motorists.
These are just three of the cases uncovered in files released by the National Archives examining UFO sightings across Wales.
The papers span four decades, and include nearly 7,000 documents.
But one of the biggest Welsh UFO mysteries, the 'Dyfed Triangle', may have been an elaborate practical joke.
It is the latest in a growing number of documents released detailing the UK's obsession with claims of extra-terrestrial sightings that began to surge in post-war Britain.
The papers reveal that between 1996 and 2008, more than 20 detailed sightings were reported to the police and Ministry of Defence in Wales.
They include the case of a sighting near Rhossili Bay on the Gower peninsula in September, 2005, describing the UFO as appearing like a WWII Luftwaffe prototype jet.
"Suddenly we became aware of a bright object, travelling at very high speed, moving horizontally from west to east almost directly above our heads," recorded the un-named observer, in an explanation to the Ministry of Defence.
"The object was shaped like a pair of stubby swept-back wings, meeting at around 90 degrees. The wingtips were round, as was the forward joint of port and starboard wings.
"My cousin turned to me in surprise, and I exclaimed: 'What on earth was that thing we just saw?'.
In response, the MoD said it only investigated threats to UK airspace, and had no remit to examine 'aerial phenomena'.
Some nine years earlier, the files recount a sighting by a driver in Flintshire, in August, 1996.
A police record passed to defence officials stated: "The object was very large and bright. It had flames coming out of the rear and there was no noise coming from it at all. It was 20ft from the ground and moving very fast."
The report said the sighting was made towards Mold, and the records notes that the driver was "extremely shaken-up by the incident".
Significantly, two other sightings were made on the same day - one on Anglesey, and another not far ways from the first at Chirk.
"I've always been sceptical about these things, until tonight. I've never seen anything anything like it in my life before," said one witness.
Another incident found its way to the the House of Commons, after concerned residents near Wylfa nuclear power station on Anglesey contacted the then MP, now assembly member, Ieuan Wyn Jones.
He wrote to ministers about the alleged sightings, seeking reassurance.
However, officials were unable to address the mystery or confirm whether the so-called UFO was in fact a search-and-rescue operation from RAF Valley.
"It would have been highly unlikely that any of their helicopters would have been airborne," said officials.
Finally, the full records regarding the so-called 'Dyfed Triangle' have been released, after some of the papers were made public in 2010.
It has widely been viewed as Wales' own 'Roswell incident' - sightings of both UFOs and aliens in an area stretching across parts of Pembrokeshire and Ceredigion in the 1970s.
One incident recalls a sighting by Rosa Granville who ran a hotel in Little Haven. She was woken late at night and saw what she described as a flying saucer ship, and then a silver alien shape.
Similar stories were told by schoolchildren at Broadhaven.
The MP at the time, Nicholas Edwards wrote: "I am being inundated at the present time with representations about UFOs said to have been seen in Pembrokeshire."
But the files reveal that officials who investigated the incident suspected pranksters.
"The Community Relations Officer added that there is general speculation in the neighbourhood that a practical joker may be at work," wrote staff at S4 - the government department that investigated sightings at the time.
"RAF Brawdy have had other enquiries about men in silver suits and it is perhaps not irrelevant that a local factory manufactures clothing of this type for the oil installation at Milford Haven."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-18798862
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The Dyfed Triangle school sighting was the first time I ever heard of UFO's, it scared me to bloody death.
The Gower thing is a new one on me though, I'm surprised I've never heard of that, I'm right on the boundary. Thanks for posting that.
Thinking about it, apart from my own sightings I remember being out one night in Mumbles aged about eleven. We were all play fighting when I noticed that one of my friends had been lying on his back for a while. A bit concerned I asked if he was all right to which he answered 'Yeah, I'm just watching the UFO's'. Which I totally ignored. The next day the local paper was full of reports about multiple sightings over the bay. Smart arsed little sod.
The Gower thing is a new one on me though, I'm surprised I've never heard of that, I'm right on the boundary. Thanks for posting that.
Thinking about it, apart from my own sightings I remember being out one night in Mumbles aged about eleven. We were all play fighting when I noticed that one of my friends had been lying on his back for a while. A bit concerned I asked if he was all right to which he answered 'Yeah, I'm just watching the UFO's'. Which I totally ignored. The next day the local paper was full of reports about multiple sightings over the bay. Smart arsed little sod.
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