Coastaljames
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^ was just going to link it for Ringo- very good.
I can also see a tiny, white streak in the sky to the right of the main cloud-bank. Could you have snapped a UFO?
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Well quite. There were a lot of very speedy weddings during wartime, and not everyone had the time or resources to buy gold rings.How did they know it was a mock wedding ring?
Indeed, there was a murder of a 19-year-old near me during the war, Joan Pearl Wolfe, known as the Wigwam Murder. A French Canadian soldier was found guilty and hanged at Wandsworth Prison. At one time there was an author trying to argue that it was a wrongful conviction based on the fact that the soldier was indigenous and illiterate (therefore an underdog). Having read through the facts of the case, I think it more likely than not that they hanged the right man.Well quite. There were a lot of very speedy weddings during wartime, and not everyone had the time or resources to buy gold rings.
Also, it strikes me that wartime was an excellent time to commit murder and dispose of a body. Everything was in such turmoil and the police were often otherwise engaged. I wonder if this young lady had had a very speedy wedding to a man who turned out to be not very nice, who murdered and disposed of her.
One of the famous Home Office pathologist Prof Keith Simpson's more lurid and well-known cases.Indeed, there was a murder of a 19-year-old near me during the war, Joan Pearl Wolfe, known as the Wigwam Murder. A French Canadian soldier was found guilty and hanged at Wandsworth Prison. At one time there was an author trying to argue that it was a wrongful conviction based on the fact that the soldier was indigenous and illiterate (therefore an underdog). Having read through the facts of the case, I think it more likely than not that they hanged the right man.
How did they know it was a mock wedding ring?
You'll know all this -Well quite. There were a lot of very speedy weddings during wartime, and not everyone had the time or resources to buy gold rings.
Also, it strikes me that wartime was an excellent time to commit murder and dispose of a body. Everything was in such turmoil and the police were often otherwise engaged. I wonder if this young lady had had a very speedy wedding to a man who turned out to be not very nice, who murdered and disposed of her.
If it was on the wrong finger they'd have no reason to suppose it a wedding ring. It would just be jewellery. I think it's most likely it was a brass ring (or some other non-precious metal). I know some people would use curtain rings as a mock wedding ring, if they needed to pretend to be married for any reason.finger?
Curtain ring? At least the 2/6 Woollies ring showed a little commitment.If it was on the wrong finger they'd have no reason to suppose it a wedding ring. It would just be jewellery. I think it's most likely it was a brass ring (or some other non-precious metal). I know some people would use curtain rings as a mock wedding ring, if they needed to pretend to be married for any reason.
You're looking at the teeth. Imagine her with a closed mouth smile, and make up on. She's actually a very good looking woman.She certainly has a gnarly, homely face.
If they've lost the skull, there's no DNA to test.Can't they do some DNA tests to resolve her identity? It's possible that the child is still alive and grew up thinking his/her mother abandoned him/her also in these cases it also throws up the likely suspect
I thought the bones had been found at a local university ?If they've lost the skull, there's no DNA to test.
I'd worry about 'found' bones (ie, discovered in the university) may have been misattributed after all this time, or mixed up with others. Unless they'd been kept by a pathologist, separate and correctly labelled since collection, any amount of contamination could have occurred, including them being the wrong bones altogether.I thought the bones had been found at a local university ?
Also, surprisingly distinctive. Pity they couldn't do these facial reconstructions in the past - she'd probably have been ID'd.She certainly has a gnarly, homely face.
Yep, those are the ones we know about. I'm betting there were many more.Gordon Cummins, 'the blackout ripper', took advantage of the blackout to murder and there are claims that John Christie used bombed properties to disguise victims as bombing casualties when he was a special constable during the Blitz.
The famous pathologist Dr Keith Simpson describes such a case in his book Forty Years of Murder.I wonder if, as time passes, more war time murder cases may be solved. I suspect there were a fair few husbands/wives/lovers who used the turmoil and upheaval of bombing raids etc to cover up their crimes.