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Worst Movie EVER?

I loved that film! Just watched the sequel, not as good as the original but some good swordplay, intrigue and flying warriors!

I just couldn't suspend my disbelief following such a HUGE hype. It was going to rival everything...

I watched 10 minutes and thought "Hang on I used to watch this stuff on betamax".
 
Ang Lee said the wire fu was supposed to make the audience think of watching astronauts walking on the Moon, if that's any help. And just because there were a billion martial arts movies made in Hong Kong doesn't mean some of them couldn't be art: King Hu's epics, for instance, are candidates for that.
 
Eraserhead, I watched the new Criterion Blu-ray recently and loved it all over again... well, maybe "love" is the wrong word, but it's such a meticulously constructed nightmare world, and it's weirdly funny as well as unsettling. As said above, not everyone gets it, and I don't want to be one of those snobbish cineastes breathing the rarefied air of what they proclaim as masterpieces, but if you know the background and the huge struggle it was to make, maybe you appreciate it more.

Also, the ending, where despite how awful Henry's life has been he gets his acceptance, finally, is so strangely moving, while still being horrible, there's nothing like it, apart from maybe the ending of Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me. It's a hopeful film, oddly. Compare it to something like Begotten, which is clearly trying the same thing but smugly missing its effect by a million miles, and I'm so glad Eraserhead exists. And we still don't know what the baby was.
 
Am I alone in that I tend to ignore or avoid new films that have hype poured on them, and words such as "cult" or "masterpiece" used about them?
You can't create a "cult" movie - they tend to be ones that the viewers favour over critical reviews. You might be able to try to make a "masterpiece", as in ticks all the relevant boxes, but this doesn't make it good, or enjoyable.
It's like being told something is fantastic. Critics might disagree, viewers might disagree. It's all down to personal taste. That's the core of reviews - they are opinions. And opinions are down to personal interests.
I don't like musicals. However, I enjoy The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Shock Treatment, The Great Race, and Bugsy Malone. There's two bits of Carousel I enjoy but, on the whole, don't ask me to review a Hollywood musical. The Rocky Horror Picture Show can be considered "cult", as is Shock Treatment. The Great Race has musical numbers in but I think it's more a (dated) action comedy; it's fun but my own love of it is for one scene - the duel between The Great Leslie (Tony Curtis) and Baron von Stuppe (Ross Martin). This is a breathtaking sword fight scene. Bugsy Malone has three musical numbers I like ... but that's about all. Fun to watch on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
Thing is, I can declare suchandsuch is a terrible movie but I'd have to back it up with evidence, in the same way I've declared the above musicals (they all have musical numbers) have some great music.
My point?
I suppose it's asking us to declare the "worst movie ever" but we have to quantify what makes it bad. Attached to this is the very idea that some films are said (by popular opinion) to be sacrosanct or above criticism. As I said, reviews and criticism is based on personal view. If however a lot of people, from all ages and tastes, say it's crap then no amount of studio 'puff' will make a purse out of this herd of porcine beings:

1) Battlefield Earth.
2) Ghosts Can't Do it.
3) Pink Flamingos
4) Mazes and Monsters*


I admit there is always a category for films "so bad they're good" but, really, some are irredeemable.
* Mazes and Monsters is so shite that Hanks' wikipedia entry completely ignores this rubbish, even though it cashed in on the moral panic of the '80s.
 
"Someone sent me a bowel movement!!!"

Pink Flamingos is like Toy Story compared to the entertainment value of Ghosts Can't Do It.
 
At least Devine was willing to do the deed, when GCDI was a vanity project.
Pia Zadora in The Lonely Lady is an exact equivalent. Both producers pouring money to promote a younger 'popsie' with no talent, both willing to take a crap plot along with topless titillation, both no contribution to the art.
I admit there is a car-crash entertainment to be had with "So Bad They're Good" but even this classification is down to personal taste.
 
The Lonely Lady is on its own level, a camp classic that's so wrongheaded it's... very wrong. Pia's kind of endearing, and she can sing, so obviously they don't have her playing a singer in it, she plays, no, not a starlet, not a director: a screenwriter! That most cinematic of careers. Her character's eventual breakdown is frankly incredible. That's the best kind of bad movie, the "failed sincerity" camp, the forced stuff never hits the mark like it.
 
1) Battlefield Earth.
2) Ghosts Can't Do it.
3) Pink Flamingos
4) Mazes and Monsters*


I admit there is always a category for films "so bad they're good" but, really, some are irredeemable.
* Mazes and Monsters is so shite that Hanks' wikipedia entry completely ignores this rubbish, even though it cashed in on the moral panic of the '80s.

TBF Hanks is by far and wide the best thing in it. I actually really like it, even though you have to fast forward it a lot.
 
TBF Hanks is by far and wide the best thing in it. I actually really like it, even though you have to fast forward it a lot.
That's not saying much. Hanks did his best ... his telephone call to his chums was actually quite moving. Everything else, though, was utter bilge.
 
Girl on a Motorcycle

I know, Marianne Faithfull, but it really is utter shite. It was on Talking Pictures earlier.
 
Marianne hated making it, but the ending is absolutely hilarious.

I don't know if I'd describe it as hilarious - she goes head first through a windscreen after colliding with a lorry. Unless you mean the terrible acting.
 
I don't know if I'd describe it as hilarious - she goes head first through a windscreen after colliding with a lorry. Unless you mean the terrible acting.

It was more her sexual reverie on her motorcycle that led to the crash that was hilarious. A real "Monty Python foot stomping down" moment.
 
The only scene I remember from a film with that title ( I was 9 or 10) was a girl having her leather top stripped off with a whip. At that time and that age it was not the worst movie I'd seen.
 
I saw Wonder Woman 1984 on my daughter’s streaming service.

My opinion is that it was a very bad movie.

It was disjointed, terrible story line, and terrible acting.

Gal Godot, Chris Pine, Kristen Wig, and Pedro Pascal were just wasted.

Over done was to be good to planet earth and kids with love for everyone.
 
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon - All that hype and it was like "they're flying around on wires?" I'd seen lots of kungfu movies and was completely underwhelmed by that film.

Something been bothering me since you mentioned this film.

A friend of mine used to compulsively add the title of the porn parody of this film whenever anybody mentioned the real title, but I cannot now recall the title of the parody.

Was it Crouching Tiger Hidden Fist?

Or was the 'Tiger' also changed?

And whenever I try to recall the title, the line about Chuck Norris comes into my mind unbidden:

Behind Chuck Norris's beard there's another fist.
 
Something been bothering me since you mentioned this film.

A friend of mine used to compulsively add the title of the porn parody of this film whenever anybody mentioned the real title, but I cannot now recall the title of the parody.

Was it Crouching Tiger Hidden Fist?

Or was the 'Tiger' also changed?

And whenever I try to recall the title, the line about Chuck Norris comes into my mind unbidden:

Behind Chuck Norris's beard there's another fist.
If you think I’m doing an online search for that you have another think coming!
 
The Room is definitely one of those films that is so awful that it's entertaining. And the creator's transparent claims after the appalling reviews that it was meant to be atrocious just make it better.
 
Don't worry, Ramon will know it.

I'm sure.

Sorry! I don't!

I finally tracked down the Flash Gordon parody Flesh Gordon. I'll report back on that when I've viewed it Probably won't be for about a week though.
 
Sorry! I don't!

I finally tracked down the Flash Gordon parody Flesh Gordon. I'll report back on that when I've viewed it Probably won't be for about a week though.
It's crap. Thought I'd save you the bother.
 
I saw Wonder Woman 1984 on my daughter’s streaming service.

My opinion is that it was a very bad movie.

It was disjointed, terrible story line, and terrible acting.

Gal Godot, Chris Pine, Kristen Wig, and Pedro Pascal were just wasted.

Over done was to be good to planet earth and kids with love for everyone.

I haven't watched it yet, a lot of the criticism I've seen is about Egyptians/Arabs are portrayed as stage villains.

I really liked Wonder Woman. my review from 2017:

Wonder Woman: A island of women, Amazons, literally out of the Greek Myths, a War of the Gods which veers away from the usual telling. Diana, Gal Gadot, is trained to be a warrior in spite of her Mother ( The Queen) having reservations. World War 1 arrives in the person of downed aviator Chris Pine. He is rescued by Diana but the Beastly Bosche are in pursuit and a battle ensues. Diana leaves the Island with Chris, who it turns out is a Yank working for British Intelligence. They will fight the forces of Evil together!

Great fight sequences, even an eventual battle between WW and an Ares who looks like a hybrid Magneto/Loki. A German scientist, Dr Isabel Moreau who carries out Menglesque experiments on prisoners and develops super weapons.

Chris has great sidekicks including Ewen Bremner as an alcoholic, shell shocked, Scottish sniper. 8/10.
 
ramonmercado,

I was a big fan of the first Wonder Woman movie.

When you watch WW1984, I would like your review.

I am not sure but the virus may have cause all kinds of production problems, delaying the movie many times.
 
It does have nice special effects, though. It's just the jokes are poor. 1980 Flash Gordon is a lot funnier.
The spaceship is a tad amusing.
 
It was more her sexual reverie on her motorcycle that led to the crash that was hilarious. A real "Monty Python foot stomping down" moment.

She wore that expression right from the off, not just the end. I suspect those scenes were shot in one go then spliced in where necessary. A more accurate title would be Girl On A Motorcycle On A Trailer.

The only scene I remember from a film with that title ( I was 9 or 10) was a girl having her leather top stripped off with a whip. At that time and that age it was not the worst movie I'd seen.

And how long ago was that 40, 50 years? A leather clad babe she may be in it but it's a terrible film. She'd probably agree.
 
She wore that expression right from the off, not just the end. I suspect those scenes were shot in one go then spliced in where necessary. A more accurate title would be Girl On A Motorcycle On A Trailer.

I remember Alex Cox introducing the film on TV and saying the way her motorbike never moved from side to side made it look suspiciously like she was indeed on a trailer - like Sid Vicious in The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle was how he described it. He wasn't wrong.
 
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