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Dumb Cops

maximus otter said:
1. "Never done anything illegal except used heroin". Which he - the heroin addict - told you, and you believed him.

I also love the underlying attitude: "Nothing illegal. Except for the heroin, obvs." Interesting standards.

2. "Who were his victims?" Do you believe that you can sustain a heroin addiction on the wages of a kitchen slavey? If you are on the gear, you are either rich; or you are stealing, dealing or whoring. (Or a combination/permutation of the above).

Do you imagine that the criminals who supplied his heroin were otherwise choirboys? There are victims all along the supply chain.

maximus otter
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First, you inflate "recreational drug use" to "addiction", then you impugn my "standards". Finally, you have made one insignificant person the catalyst for the miseries of thousands (the supply chain you speak of). This man was an occasional user, not an addict who worked full time and lived in a shared house in the neighbourhood.

With regard to the matter if the illegality of certain drugs, their very illegality is the cause of so much of the attendant problems with true addicts. Without the use of dispensing clinics to manage and monitor drugs like heroin to ensure their quality and safety, true addicts will be dependent on shifty dealers (and their even more nefarious supply chain you speak of) who sell them very expensive and unreliable drugs that can only be purchased through the proceeds of crime.

It's not the drug that is the problem, it is society's attitude towards it and towards the people who use it. I believe that when we get rid of the illegality, more people will be happier and safe from harm. So I guess I can see why you may find my standards "interesting".

(Also, the cops told me who this guy's mates were and why they thought the guy might be "of assistance" to them. Their so-called crime was a political one pertaining to the military-industrial complex, and one with which I agreed, so I felt no obligation to help the cops in this matter. No person was harmed in their protests, only property. I do not believe that people are disposable.)
 
poozler said:
...you inflate "recreational drug use" to "addiction"...

...you have made one insignificant person the catalyst for the miseries of thousands...

It's not the drug that is the problem...
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When you have to inject yourself with heroin while at work, it’s no longer “recreational”. (Even the concept of “recreational heroin use” is deeply suspect. It’s a bit like “slight Ebola”).

If it weren’t for the end users, there would no no heroin supply chain.

Several former “customers” of mine would argue to the contrary. lf they weren’t dead.

maximus otter
 
Someone is getting a transfer to the Aran Islands.

Garda Commissioner Drew Harris had a rocky ride to Dublin when his bullet proof jeep was flung into the air after smashing into a barrier at Garda headquarters.

A garda on sentinel hit an emergency button to activate a security barrier which shot up from the ground to stop the unmarked PSNI jeep entering the depot.

Ireland’s top cop would normally be picked up at the border by a Garda Emergency Response Unit but on this occasion armed PSNI officers brought him all the way to Dublin. A senior source last night told Dublin Live: “The garda saw a Northern Ireland jeep driving at a pace towards the barriers (at Garda HQ).

“The PSNI were driving through the gate when the jeep with Drew Harris inside was rammed and flung up into the air by the barrier. ...

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dubl...r.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
 
Inexcusable delays by the police involved.

Romania's interior minister has fired the chief of police after the murder of a teenage girl whose repeated emergency calls went unheeded for hours.

The 15-year-old was abducted on Wednesday, but managed to make three calls and give officers details about where she was being held. Her family say officers did not take her calls seriously, while police say they had difficulty tracing her. The girl is thought to have died at the hands of her captor.

Police found human remains and jewellery the girl wore at a house, and have detained a 65-year-old man for questioning. The girl, who has only been identified as Alexandra, was kidnapped while trying to hitchhike to her home in the southern city of Caracal, police say.

On Thursday morning, she called the emergency hotline 112 three times, and said she had been abducted by a car driver who had picked her up, AFP news agency reports.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49139930
 
The rules apply to the constabulary as well as the other citizens ...
Illinois officer fined $350 for illegally parking patrol car

A northern Illinois police officer has been ticketed for parking his patrol car in a handicapped-accessible parking space.

Lakemoor Police Chief David Godlewski said Tuesday that the officer was issued a $350 fine Sunday for parking illegally at the Lakemoor Crossings Shopping Center.

The Northwest Herald reports that a resident texted the chief about the parking infraction on Sunday. The department also received calls, and one resident posted a photo of the Lakemoor Police SUV on Facebook.

The police chief says the officer is being disciplined and declined to release his name.

Godlewski notes that the officer is apologetic and remorseful, and that he has taken full responsibility for his actions.

In October, a McHenry County Sheriff’s officer also was issued a citation for parking in a handicapped-accessible parking space.
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SOURCE: https://apnews.com/390e77a418844e2faec34f2cf30d417a
 
Some real dummies.

One of India's most gridlocked cities has come up with an unconventional solution to rein in errant drivers.

Mannequins dressed up as traffic police have been placed on roads in the southern city of Bangalore. Dressed in police caps, white shirts and brown trousers, and wearing sunglasses, the mannequins are now on duty at congested junctions. It's hoped drivers will mistake them for real police and think twice about breaking the rules of the road.

Home to India's IT industry, Bangalore has eight million registered vehicles on its streets. This number is expected to grow to more than 10 million by 2022. At 18.7 km/h (11.61 mph) traffic speeds in the city are the second slowest in the country after Mumbai (18.5 km/h), according to a study by an office commute platform, MovinSync Technology Solutions. Cameras at traffic junctions have recorded more than 20,000 traffic violations every day.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-50724823
 
ramonmercado said:
Some real dummies.

One of India's most gridlocked cities has come up with an unconventional solution to rein in errant drivers.

Mannequins dressed up as traffic police have been placed on roads in the southern city of Bangalore. Dressed in police caps, white shirts and brown trousers, and wearing sunglasses, the mannequins are now on duty at congested junctions. It's hoped drivers will mistake them for real police and think twice about breaking the rules of the road.

Home to India's IT industry, Bangalore has eight million registered vehicles on its streets. This number is expected to grow to more than 10 million by 2022. At 18.7 km/h (11.61 mph) traffic speeds in the city are the second slowest in the country after Mumbai (18.5 km/h), according to a study by an office commute platform, MovinSync Technology Solutions. Cameras at traffic junctions have recorded more than 20,000 traffic violations every day.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-50724823
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If that doesn't work, then:
 
Police officer resigns after lying about 'pig' on McDonald’s coffee cup

Brian Hornaday, the Herington police chief, said at a news conference that the now former officer “completely and solely fabricated” the allegations. Hornaday said the officer told him the incident was “meant to be a joke”.

Hornaday did not name the 23-year-old officer, but said he had been with the department about two months after spending approximately five years in the Army.

The police chief also “applauded” McDonald’s for conducting its own investigation and for cooperating in the department’s.

It’s “absolutely a black eye on law enforcement”, Hornaday said, also calling the incident an “obvious violation” of the public’s trust.

Earlier Monday, the McDonald’s in Junction City disputed the allegations made by the officer, who had said he received the cup with the expletive written on it as he stopped there on his way to work.

Dana Cook, the owner of the McDonald’s, said in a written statement that the restaurant has security video that proves none of its employees wrote the words. In Hornaday’s initial Facebook post, he said one of his officers was handed the cup Saturday when he went through the McDonald’s drive-thru.
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Star Wars Day promotion goes awry after [Alberta police] arrest employee in stormtrooper costume

May the fourth is widely known among fans of the sci-fi series as Star Wars Day, and thus, a local business themed around the franchise wanted to put on a promotion to celebrate it.

Coco Vanilla Galactic Cantina Owner Bradley Whalen told LNN that it very quickly went off the rails and put one of his employees in serious danger.

At approximately 11:20 am, three police cruisers arrived and a truck followed shortly after:


In the video, Whalen came outside after hearing the officers shouting at the employee. He can be heard telling the officers that the girl in the costume only has a toy gun.The officers tell Whelan to get back in his building.

“Police officers had guns drawn, pointed at my employee. They were yelling at her to put the gun down so she threw the plastic gun on the ground. At that point in time when I came out, she was on her knees kneeling down on the ground. The police had already checked and seen that the gun was plastic so they already knew that there wasn’t an issue or a risk there.”

https://lethbridgenewsnow.com/2020/...lps-arrests-employee-in-stormtrooper-costume/

Four police vehicles, multiple officers with weapons drawn, to arrest a sobbing 7-stone girl with a plastic toy gun. Words fail me. Justin "Testosterone" Trudeau must be so proud.

maximus otter
 
I don't know that the officer involved did anything "dumb", but I can't find a better place for this item ...
Firefighters rescue police officer trapped in handcuffs

A police officer in Britain needed the assistance of firefighters when he accidentally was bound by his own handcuffs.

The Northamptonshire Fire and Rescue Service tweeted a crew used pedal cutters to release a police officer who had his hands stuck in his own handcuffs. ...

Northamptonshire Police Sgt. Scott Renwick, the region's Core Training Sergeant, revealed on Twitter that he was the officer in question.

"Well that wasn't a good start to the day. Thanks to @northantsfire for cutting me out of some broken cuffs. #NotFunny. I would have laughed too!!" Renwick tweeted.
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SOURCE: https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2020/0...e-officer-trapped-in-handcuffs/5731597868281/
 
I'm putting this into the Dumb Cops thread on the theory this young officer's original story was a cover-up for an embarrassing accidental self-inflicted gunshot wound - a cover-up he probably figured involved the least shame, blowback and expense. He was wrong ...
A Louisiana officer who claimed someone shot him actually shot himself, police say

A Louisiana police officer who claimed he was shot while on duty had instead shot himself in the leg, Deputy Chief Darrell B. Basco of the Pineville Police Department Administrative Bureau told CNN.

John Michael Goulart Jr., 25, was arrested Tuesday and charged with one count of criminal mischief and one count of malfeasance in office after falsely claiming he'd been shot, according to Basco.

"The investigation led to a determination that the officer shot himself, concealed and altered the facts," according to a statement from Basco.

Around 11:50 p.m. Sunday night, Goulart, who was on duty, reported that he had been shot, according to Basco. He was transported to a local hospital where he was treated and released.
Officer on administrative leave

Two rounds were fired, according to Basco. One hit Goulart in the leg and the other hit the door of his vehicle. "Everything shows it was an accidental discharge," Basco said.

However, he added that accidental discharge incidents require a review by the chief of police and raise the possibility of disciplinary action. ...
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FULL STORY: https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/us/louisiana-police-officer-fake-ambush-trnd/index.html

NOTE: The CNN article above doesn't mention that Goulart originally claimed his wound was the result of an ambush.

https://www.knoe.com/2020/09/21/pineville-police-officer-ambushed-sunday-night/
 
[Humberside] Police want to identify these two men after another was assaulted during a burglary at a house in Grimsby:

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https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/e-fits-released-two-suspects-4660895

maximus otter
 
The Mobile County (Alabama) Sheriff's Office thought it would be cool to post a Photoshopped Xmas tree on their Facebook page depicting the ornaments as mugshots of current detainees. The feedback hasn't exactly been positive ...
Sheriff’s Christmas tree ‘thugshots’ rub some the wrong way

Officials from an Alabama sheriff’s department are being criticized for displaying a photo of a Christmas tree adorned with what they called “thugshots” of people who have been arrested.

The Mobile County Sheriff’s Office used its Facebook page to post a doctored image of a Christmas tree decorated with photos of people arrested or wanted for crimes.

“We have decorated our Tree with THUGSHOTS to show how many Thugs we have taken off the streets of Mobile this year! We could not have done it without our faithful followers!” said the message posted Thursday. ...
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FULL STORY: https://apnews.com/article/alabama-mobile-crime-arrests-christmas-ce9a43a11246d4fc1b971d79dcab1369
 
EnolaGaia said:
The Mobile County (Alabama) Sheriff's Office thought it would be cool to post a Photoshopped Xmas tree on their Facebook page depicting the ornaments as mugshots of current detainees. The feedback hasn't exactly been positive ...


FULL STORY: https://apnews.com/article/alabama-mobile-crime-arrests-christmas-ce9a43a11246d4fc1b971d79dcab1369
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Repeat offenders “...need the community’s assistance and care, not scorn...” says the ACLU. I wonder what the good people of Mobile think?

maximus otter
 
In a statement released by Minneapolis police chief, and backed up by body cam footage from the incident, the tragic fatal shooting of a man during a traffic stop, was an accident, the police woman thought she was deploying her taser, when in fact she had discharged her firearm.

Daunte Wright shooting by police in Minnesota 'accidental'

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56724798
 

Bungling South African cops let prisoner escape – so they abduct innocent man off the street and arrest him as a REPLACEMENT​

  • The man was out shopping when he was handcuffed and thrown into a police car
  • Despite protesting his innocence, he was put into a cell at a police station
  • But when a detective arrived, the two officers' attempted cover up was caught
  • Both cops were charged with kidnap, defeating the ends of justice and fraud
By JAMIE PYATT IN CAPE TOWN FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 11:08 BST, 22 July 2021 | UPDATED: 11:26 BST, 22 July 2021

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Two bungling police officers in South Africa have been arrested for kidnapping an innocent man off the street as a replacement for an escaped prisoner.
The shocked shopper found himself handcuffed and in a police car accused of housebreaking and theft having been switched for the criminal.
Despite protesting his innocence the cops in Cape Town, South Africa, threw the man into the cells at Maitland police station to await magistrates.

His pleas that he had only been out to pick up some groceries fell on deaf ears and he spent the night behind bars until a detective arrived in the morning.

The detective realised when checking the case file and listening to the innocent man's story that the officers had 'switched suspects' after their man escaped.

Both cops were charged with kidnap, defeating the ends of justice and fraud, and the innocent man was given a lift back home by red-faced officers.

Magistrates heard Warrant Officer Ricardo Snyman and Sergeant Sibuyiselo Bentso were caught out as the arrested man looking nothing like the suspect.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...isoner-escape-abduct-innocent-man-street.html
 
A whiskey selling scheme was undertaken by the Washington DC Fraternal Order of Police Lodge. It was eventually determined to be completely illegal, and the lodge may well have been the victims of a scam. Assuming the lodge members were oblivious rather than deliberately felonious, I'm calling this "Dumb Cops" rather than "Bad Cops."
Daniel’s committee: How D.C.’s police lodge made thousands selling whiskey online

In March 2017, the leaders of Washington’s Fraternal Order of Police Lodge — an umbrella group for police unions in the capital — told their members about an exciting new idea. ...

They were selling whiskey on the Internet.

It was called the Jack Daniel’s Fundraising Committee.

The lodge’s leaders were buying Jack Daniel’s whiskey, engraving the bottles with a police-union logo, then reselling them online at the marked-up price of $80. They’d been overwhelmed with orders. ...

Over the next three years, the D.C. lodge — a group of active and retired police officers, working from a clubhouse near the FBI Field Office — sold more than 3,000 bottles of whiskey to people across the country, according to internal lodge documents and interviews with lodge leaders.

But the sale of hard liquor is tightly regulated — the shipment of hard liquor even more so. And The Post could find no evidence that the lodge ever obtained the permits required to do what it did: sell liquor by the bottle, and ship it across state lines.

“All Jack Daniel’s bottled beverages were sold illegally without the proper licensing and shipped in violation of the law,” the lodge’s own internal inquiry concluded in 2020.

The whiskey-selling operation was run by a man named Michael Kruggel, who had become an officer at the D.C. lodge despite working as a security guard at a Tennessee Walmart. Under him, the Jack Daniel’s committee took in more than $500,000 — but spent nearly all of it on expenses and travel, according to the lodge’s internal inquiry. Kruggel, lodge records showed, submitted reimbursements for 72,706 miles of driving in two years, enough to circle the earth 2.9 times.

The Jack Daniel’s committee was shut down last year, when a new slate of officers took over the D.C. lodge. They commissioned an internal report that said the sales, if discovered, could jeopardize the lodge’s nonprofit status and the liquor license for its restaurant. Now, the D.C. lodge is stacked with cases of unsold whiskey. ...
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FULL STORY: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...e-thousands-selling-whiskey-online/ar-AAQlWVF
 
Failure to cut the grass leads to a mans death!

An attempt by Austin, Texas, officials to serve a search warrant and provide lawn care resulted in shots fired, an hourslong standoff, a house fire and a death, police said Wednesday.

Police officers and code enforcement officers arrived at a home at 9:16 a.m. to serve a nuisance search warrant, but could not make contact with the resident, Austin Police Chief Joseph Chacon said at an evening news conference.

The warrant was left at the door and contractors for the city's code enforcement began working on the lawn. About an hour later, the resident started shooting from inside the house, Chacon said.

"And they immediately backed off. They got all of the staff that was working on the house to safety and and a SWAT call was initiated for a barricaded subject," he said.

SWAT, mental health officers and a crisis negotiator arrived on scene, but could not get the man out of the home, leading to the lockdown of a nearby elementary school and the closure of several streets.

"SWAT spent the next several hours trying to negotiate with the individual to just simply come out of the house," Chacon said.

At about 3 p.m., the resident started shooting at officers again. "And because of that immediate threat ... they made entry using a robot," Chacon said.

The robot helped officers determine that a fire had been started in the home, and was quickly spreading, he said. Officers still couldn't get the man to come out of the house as it became fully engulfed in flames.

But then the man exited through the garage with weapons in his hand. "At that time, a SWAT officer shot and struck the resident who went down with a gunshot wound," Chacon said.

Officers got the man away from the house and treated him before he was taken to a hospital, where he died. It's unclear what caused his death.

The fire was eventually put out, and the school lockdown was lifted.

The SWAT officer who shot the man will be put on administrative duty during investigations into the incident, Chacon said. The officer has been with the department for eight years, according to the chief.

The resident of the home has not been identified. Austin Police spokesperson Jose Mendez said he was a white man in his 50s.

Mendez said the department had made previous welfare visits to the home, but were never able to communicate with him. Officers were in touch with his family during Wednesday's standoff.

Their main goal Wednesday was to get the man in compliance with the local homeowners association.

“They attempted to cut the lawn for him, and this is the reaction they got,” Mendez said

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/city-s-attempt-cut-texas-man-s-grass-leads-standoff-n1282623
 
Not really dumb, but strange:

'Doll who didn't stop talking' keeps four police units busy
A day after the police with four units extensively investigated a mysterious voice at a recycling station in Almere-Haven, there is more clarity about what exactly happened.

Police took action last night after a night watchman heard a voice shouting, "Yup. Here I am!". One of the police officers eventually stumbled upon a talking Miffy doll.

It is most likely the same doll that the night watchman previously told Omroep Flevoland. "I'm standing with all these big containers around me and suddenly I hear a woman's voice shouting softly: 'Yup. Here I am" I turned off my flashlight so as not to betray my position any further and walked gently and wary of where the sound was coming from. I stopped and again I heard the woman shout muffled: "I'm here, I've been hiding".

In the end, the night watchman did not dare to investigate the origin of the voice itself. Only when he had called in the police, it turned out that it was a talking toy.

"I threw that annoying doll in the plastic container less than a day before," confirms Rick from Almere at Omroep Flevoland. "We had the doll in the house for less than a week and he didn't stop making noise."

Rick (last name known by the reaction) finds it very annoying that 'his' talking toys have caused so much commotion and apologizes to the night watchman and the police. He doesn't have to return the annoying doll. It is now on the dashboard of the night watchman's car.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2406363-pop-die-niet-stopte-met-praten-houdt-vier-politie-eenheden-bezig
 
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Can't weigh this one up from Los Angeles; they get they guy that they were chasing and then let him get back in the car and drive off. I was expecting a hail of bullets the moment he stepped back in the car.

 
FelixAntonius said:
Failure to cut the grass leads to a mans death!

An attempt by Austin, Texas, officials to serve a search warrant and provide lawn care resulted in shots fired, an hourslong standoff, a house fire and a death, police said Wednesday.

Police officers and code enforcement officers arrived at a home at 9:16 a.m. to serve a nuisance search warrant, but could not make contact with the resident, Austin Police Chief Joseph Chacon said at an evening news conference.

The warrant was left at the door and contractors for the city's code enforcement began working on the lawn. About an hour later, the resident started shooting from inside the house, Chacon said.

"And they immediately backed off. They got all of the staff that was working on the house to safety and and a SWAT call was initiated for a barricaded subject," he said.

SWAT, mental health officers and a crisis negotiator arrived on scene, but could not get the man out of the home, leading to the lockdown of a nearby elementary school and the closure of several streets.

"SWAT spent the next several hours trying to negotiate with the individual to just simply come out of the house," Chacon said.

At about 3 p.m., the resident started shooting at officers again. "And because of that immediate threat ... they made entry using a robot," Chacon said.

The robot helped officers determine that a fire had been started in the home, and was quickly spreading, he said. Officers still couldn't get the man to come out of the house as it became fully engulfed in flames.

But then the man exited through the garage with weapons in his hand. "At that time, a SWAT officer shot and struck the resident who went down with a gunshot wound," Chacon said.

Officers got the man away from the house and treated him before he was taken to a hospital, where he died. It's unclear what caused his death.

The fire was eventually put out, and the school lockdown was lifted.

The SWAT officer who shot the man will be put on administrative duty during investigations into the incident, Chacon said. The officer has been with the department for eight years, according to the chief.

The resident of the home has not been identified. Austin Police spokesperson Jose Mendez said he was a white man in his 50s.

Mendez said the department had made previous welfare visits to the home, but were never able to communicate with him. Officers were in touch with his family during Wednesday's standoff.

Their main goal Wednesday was to get the man in compliance with the local homeowners association.

“They attempted to cut the lawn for him, and this is the reaction they got,” Mendez said

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/city-s-attempt-cut-texas-man-s-grass-leads-standoff-n1282623
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I don't generally believe in aesthetic standards being set by homeowners associations, or even municipal codes, and really don't agree with cops being called out to enforce them, but this strikes me as "dumb homeowner", not "dumb cops".

Floyd1 said:
Can't weigh this one up from Los Angeles; they get they guy that they were chasing and then let him get back in the car and drive off. I was expecting a hail of bullets the moment he stepped back in the car.

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Looks to me like they really didn't have enough cars to truly block him in, and feared that he had a weapon he would use if they rushed him. Unlike the movies - especially movies before, say, the 1970s - police don't and shouldn't release a "hail of bullets" unless the suspect clearly poses an immediate deadly threat.
 
ChasFink said:
I don't generally believe in aesthetic standards being set by homeowners associations, or even municipal codes, and really don't agree with cops being called out to enforce them, but this strikes me as "dumb homeowner", not "dumb cops".
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I would love to live where people have to keep their property in basic good order. And in any case, aren't they aware of this when then buy a place that has a homeowners association?
ChasFink said:
Looks to me like they really didn't have enough cars to truly block him in, and feared that he had a weapon he would use if they rushed him. Unlike the movies - especially movies before, say, the 1970s - police don't and shouldn't release a "hail of bullets" unless the suspect clearly poses an immediate deadly threat.
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At least 12 cops, 5 cars, non-lethal bullets and a dog weren't enough to stop him?
 
Floyd1 said:
…12 cops, 5 cars, non-lethal bullets and a dog weren't enough to stop him?
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12 cops who:

a) Want to get home after their shift to see their loved ones, and;

b) Have to comply with a veritable encyclopaedia of laws, rules and codes of practice. None of which laughing boy there has to give a shit about.

maximus otter
 
maximus otter said:
12 cops who:

a) Want to get home after their shift to see their loved ones, and;

b) Have to comply with a veritable encyclopaedia of laws, rules and codes of practice. None of which laughing boy there has to give a shit about.

maximus otter
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Agreed, but I've seen a lot of these Los Angeles chases and they usually don't mess about like this.
 
Floyd1 said:
Agreed, but I've seen a lot of these Los Angeles chases and they usually don't mess about like this.
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Maybe the police in LA are now like the ones in Demolition Man?
 
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