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More Tales From My Guests

Re. Reporting to the police, yes the whole thing sounds a bit suspicious but that's all it is, suspicion with no evidence of a crime actually being committed. Plus if these guys are involved with drugs, they'll know it was gattino and they know where he lives... Not really worth it when the police will most likely just say 'thank you for telling us' but do an internal shrug of the shoulders.
 
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It's suggestive of a mystery but also could be innocent, beyond dumping the suitcase on you. There is another possibility: they have been the victim of a crime, though this does seem very unlikely - two adult men being "disappeared" as it were, though that is something more likely if they are involved in organised crime.

The misspelling of the guy's name is easily explainable, it's easy to misspell foreign names that one if unfamiliar with, he may be used to it and tired of having to get things changed all the time or just not think it's important. I'd still consider contacting the police though, just be sure and cover yourself.
 
I've avoided saying it, as it's the less noble reason for letting it go, but yes the possibility of being targeted as a snitch if they did turn out to be gangsters has obviously played across my mind. Its probably pushing me further into embracing my "all they've done is leave an empty suitcase behind" take on it. It's true but I'm obviously finding it useful that it's true.
 
Oh, I've just thought! If they were off to a party is there any chance that the enormous weight was due to booze? They may have been in charge of supplying the party with booze (possibly brought into the country 'under the radar' from home country) and, having boozed the night away somewhere distant, they just decided there was no point in coming back to pick up the suitcase and have just gone their merry ways?
 
I've avoided saying it, as it's the less noble reason for letting it go, but yes the possibility of being targeted as a snitch if they did turn out to be gangsters has obviously played across my mind. Its probably pushing me further into embracing my "all they've done is leave an empty suitcase behind" take on it. It's true but I'm obviously finding it useful that it's true.
Just leaving it at that is what I'd do.
 
Oh, I've just thought! If they were off to a party is there any chance that the enormous weight was due to booze? They may have been in charge of supplying the party with booze (possibly brought into the country 'under the radar' from home country) and, having boozed the night away somewhere distant, they just decided there was no point in coming back to pick up the suitcase and have just gone their merry ways?
Yup, I once brought a big wheely case full of booze back from Belgium on t'Eurostar. Had many adventures, culminating in foolishly trying to lift it onto a train at Euston by the pull-along handle. It snapped clean off so I double-punched myself hard in the gob. Bystanders went 'Oooh!'
 
Yup, I once brought a big wheely case full of booze back from Belgium on t'Eurostar. Had many adventures, culminating in foolishly trying to lift it onto a train at Euston by the pull-along handle. It snapped clean off so I double-punched myself hard in the gob. Bystanders went 'Oooh!'

You should have drank some to lighten the load.
 
Perhaps the boys from Transylvania were hoarding those little bottles of booze from the airplanes.

Seriously, if they were carrying 60 kilos of vodka for a party - probably 45-50 liters or so if you account for glass bottles, and not ridiculous for a large party of east Europeans - then they might still be sleeping it off!
 
I should say even with the strong possibility of being up to no good, imagination is getting away with thee as well as me...

I have to say that I completely empathise with this.

Back in 2018 - when living in Barcelona for a few months - I found several hundred US dollars rolled up and secreted behind a really horrible oil painting of an elephant on the wall of our flat. ($667 - to be precise.)

I spent far more time wondering about the events that led to the money being there than I did enjoying the cash.

Clearly someone had vacated suddenly, and the only broad options I could picture were related to accident or criminality. The former played on my mind (although it still really didn't explain why the cash was hidden behind a picture in the first place), and I thought about trying to trace an owner, but the only option for doing that was our landlord, who was a bit shifty - and I know the cash would never have gone the other side of his pocket had he known about it. I asked my partner's dad - Spanish, and an absolute gent - about handing it to the police; he literally guffawed.

In the end, I gave it to my then partner - who was more skint than I was. I still wonder about it sometimes.

I also spent an hour or two checking the flat for other caches - air vents, behind kitchen plinth boards, cistern etc. I wasn't after more money - but I was a bit concerned that if the flat had been used for something dodgy then there could be stuff hidden away that people might be tempted to come back for, and I wanted some warning.

(Oh, and some quick advice to any potential criminals who want to hide cash safely behind paintings: make sure they're hanging straight when you're done - some of us do not suffer a picture to hang askew.)
 
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I have to say that I completely empathise with this.

Back in 2018 - when living in Barcelona for a few months - I found several hundred US dollars rolled up into a tight what and secreted behind a really horrible oil painting of an elephant on the wall of our flat. ($667 - to be precise.)

I spent far more time wondering about the events that led to the money being there than I did enjoying the cash.

Clearly someone had vacated suddenly, and the only broad options I could picture were related to accident or criminality. The former played on my mind (although it still really didn't explain why the cash was hidden behind a picture in the first place), and I thought about trying to trace an owner, but the only option for doing that was our landlord, who was a bit shifty - and I know the cash would never have gone the other side of his pocket had he known about it. I asked my partner's dad - Spanish, and an absolute gent - about handing it to the police; he literally guffawed.

In the end, I gave it to my then partner - who was more skint than I was. I still wonder about it sometimes.

I also spent an hour or two checking the flat for other caches - air vents, behind kitchen plinth boards, cistern etc. I wasn't after more money - but I was a bit concerned that if the flat had been used for something dodgy then there could be stuff hidden away that people might be tempted to come back for, and I wanted some warning.

(Oh, and some quick advice to any potential criminals who want to hide cash safely behind paintings: make sure they're hanging straight when you're done - some of us do not suffer a picture to hang askew.)
Women (and men) in abusive partnership situations will often have to hide money away from their partners in order not to have the rent drunk away or their own personal savings taken from them.
 
I've just recalled that a few years ago, months after moving into his current house, my brother found a stash of passports in a plastic bag buried in the garden.
 
Did he turn them in?

I've avoided saying it, as it's the less noble reason for letting it go, but yes the possibility of being targeted as a snitch if they did turn out to be gangsters has obviously played across my mind. Its probably pushing me further into embracing my "all they've done is leave an empty suitcase behind" take on it. It's true but I'm obviously finding it useful that it's true.
Consider this possible report to police--although enough time has passed that maybe it will seem too much like an afterthought on your part if you do it--but, here you are with abandoned property from guests who have disappeared during a night out. They are foreign. You could report them as missing, presumed okay, but you want to make sure there is a record in case something has happened to them. Just record your concern. It IS possible something happened to them. You tried to contact them, but they didn't respond. What happened to them? I'd be worried for them. (Some people think I'm a worrywart, and sometimes I am, but sometimes I'm glad to have been safe instead of sorry!)

PS--if they'd hauled a dismembered body or drugs up the stairs, there would probably be some traces left behind, so I find it most likely they were not criminals, just weird.
 
I've just recalled that a few years ago, months after moving into his current house, my brother found a stash of passports in a plastic bag buried in the garden.
Many many years ago some of my work colleagues had to carry out a survey of the drainage on the North Peckham housing estate. They found stashes of drugs and weapons as they followed the route of the drains and ended up having a police escort accompany them to finish the contract as the locals were ready to lynch them.
 
Many many years ago some of my work colleagues had to carry out a survey of the drainage on the North Peckham housing estate. They found stashes of drugs and weapons as they followed the route of the drains and ended up having a police escort accompany them to finish the contract as the locals were ready to lynch them.

So the drugs and weapons were being kept in the actual drains?
 
So the drugs and weapons were being kept in the actual drains?
Seems plausible, if you're desperate/organised enough. You just need waterproof containers and the right tools.

I have some manhole cover lifting keys from a previous job. They are available at the DIY.
Anyone could hide their stash in drains.
 
Seems plausible, if you're desperate/organised enough. You just need waterproof containers and the right tools.

I have some manhole cover lifting keys from a previous job. They are available at the DIY.
Anyone could hide their stash in drains.

I don't want poo on my drugs and/or weapons!

I shall write to my MP about this.
 
Oh, I've just thought! If they were off to a party is there any chance that the enormous weight was due to booze? They may have been in charge of supplying the party with booze (possibly brought into the country 'under the radar' from home country) and, having boozed the night away somewhere distant, they just decided there was no point in coming back to pick up the suitcase and have just gone their merry ways?
I used to work with a load of Kurdish Muslim blokes not long after 9/11. Their landlords, also Muslim gents, were strict about the no alcohol part of their religion. Me and the ex had been invited to a picnic day out with the blokes, we turned up at their house, the Muslim blokes had decided to buy themselves a load of booze and asked me and the ex to lie and pretend if was our booze which we duly did when the landlords turned up. No problem there because we were Christians. They must have thought we were massive drinkers, that is if they'd even bought our bullshit. Maybe Gattino's guests did have booze although I expect he would have heard the bottles clinking in the case?.
 
I used to work with a load of Kurdish Muslim blokes not long after 9/11. Their landlords, also Muslim gents, were strict about the no alcohol part of their religion. Me and the ex had been invited to a picnic day out with the blokes, we turned up at their house, the Muslim blokes had decided to buy themselves a load of booze and asked me and the ex to lie and pretend if was our booze which we duly did when the landlords turned up. No problem there because we were Christians. They must have thought we were massive drinkers, that is if they'd even bought our bullshit. Maybe Gattino's guests did have booze although I expect he would have heard the bottles clinking in the case?.
I wondered about the noise, but if they were packing in sufficiently tightly (and probably also insulated in case they got dropped), then you wouldn't hear anything.
 
I used to work with a load of Kurdish Muslim blokes not long after 9/11. Their landlords, also Muslim gents, were strict about the no alcohol part of their religion. Me and the ex had been invited to a picnic day out with the blokes, we turned up at their house, the Muslim blokes had decided to buy themselves a load of booze and asked me and the ex to lie and pretend if was our booze which we duly did when the landlords turned up. No problem there because we were Christians. They must have thought we were massive drinkers, that is if they'd even bought our bullshit. Maybe Gattino's guests did have booze although I expect he would have heard the bottles clinking in the case?.

That's what I thought but they have packed with bubblewrap or something, though you would have expected them to have dumped that too.

It could have been homemade booze in plastic bottles, lots of cultures have their versions of moonshine.
 
That's what I thought but they have packed with bubblewrap or something, though you would have expected them to have dumped that too.

It could have been homemade booze in plastic bottles, lots of cultures have their versions of moonshine.
I was positing that the booze was contained within the suitcase in a smaller container, possibly one of those 'suitcases within suitcases' that you get, like nesting dolls. And the men just took the smaller case out, fully packed with bottles, left their rubbish in the larger case, and carried it all out that way. They had to carry it to the party, after all, easier in a case or bag than in their arms!
 
What all these theories about booze fail to account for but the contraband theory does neatly is the pair of latex gloves.

Though they may have been playing doctors and nurses.

Highly corrosive booze that you cannot get on your hands!
 
What all these theories about booze fail to account for but the contraband theory does neatly is the pair of latex gloves.

Though they may have been playing doctors and nurses.
I'm ignoring those, as loads of my customers are still wearing them in the belief that it will protect them from Covid. Particularly when travelling by public transport. They probably had a box of them in the other bag and just left one discarded pair by accident.
 
Maybe Gattino's guests did have booze although I expect he would have heard the bottles clinking in the case?.
The bottles were wrapped in the socks that go missing in the laundry. Trust me, it's true. :wink2:
 
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