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Aurora (Alleged Top Secret Aircraft & Project)

To: Dirtybob
CC: Dark Detective

Subject: Being Spurs Fans

Never mind - you always have the InterToto next season. Looking forward to an easy 3 points from you on the 6th.

Maybe Sol will show you what can be achieved at a club that wins things.

Yours,

Anton La_Vey (a Gooner of 20 years)
 
Anton,
Most Gooners I know and that chuffed with Campbell. The usual coment is 'He is coming along nicely', all very well, but I would expect more than that from a player on 100K a week. You lucky Adams and Keown havent totally seized up yet!. Also have you realised Campbell would be hard pushed to get into the currect Spurs defence. King, Perry, Docherty, Gardner, Richards and Bunjy would also most likley be ahead of him in the pecking order. I bet you wish you could choose from that many class defenders. Oh Im sorry I forgot youve got the other inffectual Ukranian!

Cheers

DirtyBob
 
Is it true that in the dictionary under the entry 'delusional' there's a picture of a Spurs fan.
West Ham are a bigger club than Spurs.
 
Off Thread?

No!

Proof of conspiracy:

"Tottenham Hotspur versus Arsenal"

is an anagram of

"Smal nutters spot Aurora events"

There.

Back on thread, now?
 
To Stu Neville,

Its my thread, so there.

Dirtybob:blah:

p.s.

What does smal mean?
 
Fair enough.:)

Stu

PS Smal was all I had left after finding the other words.
 
Stu,
Its better than I could have come up with. I take it you not a footy fan?

Bob
 
Can anyone come up with something suitably insulting for Manchester United.
(I know I insulted Spurs, but its like WW2 with the UK and the USSR teaming up against the ultimate evil)
 
I am actually, Bob, despite supporting Bristol City for twenty years.

When I stand at the pearly gates, and they ask me if I've ever taken His name in vain, I'll just tell 'em I went to Ashton Gate a lot :D

As for Man U anagrams, I'll see what I can do (probably not today, though - being sent to B&Q on a suicide mission shortly...)
 
I can spot a very rude word beginning with 'c' and ending with 't', but my Countdown skills are lacking.
 
Man U

Try this:

Manchester United Football Club

can make

The "OO!" club turned facist ballmen.


There are very rude ones too, but there may be ladies present...
 
In terms of MUFC (or as i like to call them, the Munichs - tasteless i know, but old habits die hard) anagrams:

Loud Blubs Eric Cantona Left them

(courtesy of: http://www.anagramgenius.com/archive/manche6.html)

Back to Aurora tho'. I have a relative: 2nd cousin twice removed type, that used to be a 4* Major General in the USAF. He was on the procurement side, so no tales of flying Phantoms over Hanoi unfortunately, but he did reveal that he had a budget of 1 Trillion USD every two years. This was for pretty much everything (Uzi bullets for USAF guards right up to B series stealth's), and I asked him about "Aurora". He feigned total ignorance, didn't even denounce the idea as far-fetched conspiracy nut territory. His response spoke volumes as far as i was concerned...;)

He also had an adjutant that carried a side-arm all the time (and this was at a family meal in Devon), i thought that was pretty cool.
 
[ You can't make planes stealthy to the human eye... ]

I would disagree. Aside from the obvious (black paint jobs, nightflights) I seem to recall UFO Magazine of earlier this year (don't have back issues with me) discussed the Aurora, and stated that it had a specialised skin that, like the Vanquish in Bond Die Another Day, could allow for complete optical invisibility- two pilots in the US in a light aircraft 'sensed' something flying to the side of their aircraft. They saw nothing, but took a photo anyway. When developed, it showed, in the cloud, a black triangular craft.

Then again, Aurora is supposed to be hypersonic, or at least, supersonic, and I don't know, with current assumed materials technology, if engineers could create a skin to allow for optical invisibility as well as resist supersonic friction: speed or invisibility? It is, of course, possible- what isn't with engineering, and a black budget of billions? Plus, the optical invisibility may be by some other means (light-bending- photodeformation) or the propulsion could be something Exotic- electrogravitic, which could counter friction, deflecting air molecules away. Who knows?

Invisible planes though...

(Interesting point: the Indus valley civilization, recall Graham Hancock's Underworld, had, reading the Ramayana and other specific works, vimana- aircraft that could, amongst other things, become invisible. And of course, there are many, many other records of invisibles in the paranormal literature- the two pilots 'sensed' the black triangle they saw- perhaps the USAF is usign psychical invisibility. Who knows?)
 
Iankidd said:
two pilots in the US in a light aircraft 'sensed' something flying to the side of their aircraft. They saw nothing, but took a photo anyway. When developed, it showed, in the cloud, a black triangular craft.
Any reference for that? (piccy on the web or anything like that.)
A bit odd that the eye doesn't see it, but a camera does. (I suspect that if the story is correct, they just didn't notice it at the time, but spent longer examining the photo. Just a thought.) :)
 
Aurora in Iraq?

Will the Aurora or any other fantastical plane be demonstrated this time round? Surely the US have plenty of new toys they are itching to try out.
 
This is my favourite aspect of military technology/alien conspiracy theories. As soon as we get a chance to see these wonderful things in action, we hear reports of Apache gunships being downed by a peasant with a catapult.
 
Report fuels spy plane theories
By Meirion Jones
BBC Newsnight

The UK knows more than it is saying about top secret American aircraft projects, recently declassified documents reveal.

Deep inside a previously secret Ministry of Defence report are a few pages which will reignite one of the biggest internet conspiracy questions - Is the US Air Force building secret spy planes which can cross the sky at 3,000mph?

The plane, which is often referred to as Aurora, is supposed to be a follow on from the U2 spy plane and the 2,000mph SR71 Blackbird, both of which were first developed and flown in secrecy as 'Black' projects.

The MoD report from 2000 says the USAF plans to produce "highly supersonic vehicles at Mach 4 to 6" and hypersonic unmanned craft which will fly in the upper atmosphere and in space. In 2003, the USAF revealed it had been working on a hypersonic unmanned craft - the Falcon - but denied building an Aurora-like Mach 4 to 6 aircraft.

The Aurora has 100,000 web pages devoted to it - a lot for an aircraft which may not exist.

According to Jane's Defence Review a third of USAF spending on research and development and procurement goes on classified projects. Some of that helps pay for the development of spy satellites and intelligence activities. But a sizable proportion goes on the development of secret manned and unmanned aircraft.

For more than 50 years some of the world's most exotic aircraft have been developed at Groom Lake in Nevada - otherwise knows as Area 51 - where the appearance of strange shapes in the sky - planes which officially did not exist - led to rumours that captured UFOs were being flown out of there by the US military.

The U2 first took to the sky at Groom Lake in 1955 and stayed secret for five years till the Russians shot one down over Svedlovsk and captured the pilot Gary Powers.

The Blackbird SR71 spy plane also secretly flew from Groom Lake in the early 1960s and the F117 Stealth Fighter and its prototypes flew from there for ten years before they were publicly revealed.

Huge projects have been hidden from public gaze. The USAF spent $20 billion in developing the B2 stealth bomber before revealing it.

Millions were spent upgrading Groom Lake ten years ago and all the surrounding high ground which overlooks the base has been fenced off to keep out curious onlookers but apart from a couple of stealth prototypes there is no sign of what the USAF has been working on there since.

'Black' projects

The MoD report which was produced in 2000 and originally classified "Secret - UK eyes only" deals with UFOs - or UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) in MoD jargon - and concludes that there is no evidence for the existence of alien visitors.

But it includes a working paper on 'Black' projects which says "it is acknowledged that some UAP sightings can be attributed to covert aircraft programmes". The report lists three Western programmes.

The first is the SR71 Blackbird which it refers to by its little-used code name 'Senior Crown'. A 14-line description of Programme 2 and a ten-line description of Programme 3 are both withheld.

Even the names of the programmes have been redacted on the grounds of 'international relations'. There are pictures of stealth fighters and bombers, the Blackbird and the new American F22 fighter but two photographs have been withheld. Could one of these be a picture of Aurora?

Bill Sweetman of Jane's Defence Review has been analysing America's undercover defence projects for fifteen years. We showed him the report and he concludes the MoD "identified two separate US 'Black' programmes that might have operated from the UK. It could be something they have reason to know about".

Imagination

The blanked out sections might well contain a reference to Aurora but that does not mean the plane definitely exists. Sweetman says the blanked out sections "could be speculation but then why would they need to withhold it?"

Elsewhere in the document in a section on exotic technologies is another intriguing line. The DIS say "The projected (USAF) priority plan is to produce unpiloted air-breathing aircraft with a Mach 8-12 capability and transatmospheric vehicles." but it then continues "as well as highly supersonic vehicles at Mach 4 to 6".

The MoD report will be seen by Aurora chasers as another clue to put with unexplained sightings and mystery sonic booms but the Pentagon still insists that Aurora is a figment of their imaginations.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/n ... 079044.stm
 
Is the Aurora what is being refered to as the SR-75?

Or is Aurora the TR3B black triangle?
Are they both part of the same mission package with one being a dilvery vehicle for the other?

LD
 
stuneville said:
That's it! Revell.
I knew one of them caused a fuss with the Pentagon....

i think that is so funny...a natural monty python skit.
 
Jenny Randles, FT418:
When Peter Hough and I were talking to officers and crew at RAF Shawbury in Shropshire, it became clear that it was by then an open secret that the Aurora was first test flown from RAF Alconbury, not far from the East Midlands, with the first flights in 1978.

She proposes it could be behind 'The silent Vulcan' sighting (i.e. something with a Vulcan bomber V shape) in Leicestershire in 1978. Something similar appeared in North West Ireland on 1st March 2022.
 
Jenny Randles, FT418:


She proposes it could be behind 'The silent Vulcan' sighting (i.e. something with a Vulcan bomber V shape) in Leicestershire in 1978. Something similar appeared in North West Ireland on 1st March 2022.
Any citation for that?
Sounds interesting.
 
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