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Call me crazy, but this whole firemen's strike is a tad worrying, when one looks at it in perspective.

The FBU demands a 40% pay rise. Even their supporters gulp.

The Government cannot give in. They play the moral card. They stand resolute.

After the predictible few deaths the media link to the strikes, the FBU changes its position. The moral card trumps them.

Call me crazy,

But isn't it possible that the FBU strikes were Deliberately engineered by the Blair Government? To boost public confidence in them (public services?) they initiate a strike, ultra-covertly. They know that the 40% pay rise, the deaths that a strike will cause, and the looming War will all undermine their FBU position with relatively little energy on their part. The Media can do that.

When the FBU repents its position, the Government comes out strong and defiant in face of union militancy, other unions are discouraged (handy for dissatisfied public services) and the Government could even push to stop firefighters ever striking again in the future.

So: Big Gains for the Government accross the board: enhanced public image and greater control over unions being the chief ones.

Where there's smoke there's fire...
 
But are President Blair and his cronies really that clever?
 
thats just too much hard work, for such a little result, the REAL conspiracy, is , with a third of the national economy going to defense, and the majority of their vehicles being of similar age to the infamous Green Godessesses(?),,a plastic rifle that has taken 22 years to"perfect", and the same old uniforms,,where does this money go, and who gets it!!????
 
Motives for fire

As with all conspiracy, we are looking at shadows. We cannot see what is *really* going on; when you see a conspiracy, what you see isn't what the conspiracy is intended to produce or create.

The strikes may have longer-term goals than what I suggested; namely, distraction from public service dissatisfaction and control of the unions (hey, isn't this also Bush's motive: distract public from national problems?)

Plus, I suggest someone in the FBU is on Blair's side. It couldn't be as simple as money, but we should be concerned that the Blair Government is not at all worried about abuse of the media, public trust, or of the value of integrity.

They would start a strike they know they could contain if it served their interests.
 
FBU misinformation !!!

I've noticed that the FBU have also been giving out misinformation to make the public afraid when the strikes are on.

They've been telling the press that the Green Goddesses have wooden ladders. Wrong - they have aluminum ladders.

They've been telling the press that the ladders are half as long as the standard ladders. Wrong - they're three quaters the length or the same length as a standard Fire Tender ladder.

They've been telling the press that the Green Goddesses have no radio communication equipment. Wrong - most police forces have been kitting the Green Goddesses out with radio equipment.

They've been telling the press that the Green Goddesses have no cutting and or breathing equipment. Wrong - most if not all the Green Goddess teams have been accompanied with experienced Royal Navy or Royal Airforce teams with specialist cutting and or breathing equipment.

It's time the FBU stood back from the strikes and looked at what the real potential of the action they're taking could be, ie; death and mayhem !!

Moggadon
 
So what's the deal over there? Are buildings in flames just being left to burn then?
 
Ogopogo said:
So what's the deal over there? Are buildings in flames just being left to burn then?
No, the army are going out instead of the fire brigade, and in some cases, the firefighters on picket duty are going as well to help.
They have had to close all the deep underground stations while the strike is on though.
 
And all those reports of deaths in fires on the news - probably the death rate from fires was no higher than usual , surely most fire deaths are caused by smoke inhalation and wouldn't be preventable if the fire station were active and next door ?
 
Marion said:
And all those reports of deaths in fires on the news - probably the death rate from fires was no higher than usual , surely most fire deaths are caused by smoke inhalation and wouldn't be preventable if the fire station were active and next door ?

certainly the death of four persons was in an area coverd by part time fire fighters who wernt on strike!...........odd how it gets included on evey report tho...
 
Strikes

FBU misinformation due to:
1) Genuinely wrong information
2) Deliberate misinformation to support their case

or

3) Sure sign of conspiracy, as they include long-term weaknesses so their case can be collapsed as necessary.

The strikes have been designed to reduce the power of the firefighter's unions, to show the government as defiant against union militancy, and to detract attention from the Iraq War.

It's a simple plan, and all you need is some careful planning, control of the FBU and the media, and a few unfortunate deaths here and there for effect.
 
Adding to the effect, the conspiritors incited the tube workers to stay away from work, causing massive delays that further inflamed public opinion against the FBU.

It certainly pissed me off. :furious: :furious: :furious:
 
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